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The pressure on Biden gets more and more intense.

Jeffries and Schumer privately warned Biden he could imperil Democrats​

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer, in separate private meetings with President Biden last week, told Biden his continued candidacy imperils the party’s ability to control either chamber of Congress next year.

Jeffries met with Biden on Thursday night at the White House and Schumer met with him on Saturday in Rehoboth Beach, Del. In the meetings, each congressional leader discussed their members’ concerns that Biden could deprive them of congressional majorities, giving Republicans a much easier path to push through legislation, according to four people briefed on the meetings who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private encounters.

In a separate one-on-one conversation, a person close to Biden told the president directly that he should end his candidacy, saying that was the only way to preserve his legacy and save the country from another Trump term, the person said. The president responded that he adamantly disagreed with that opinion and that he is the best candidate to defeat Trump. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a private conversation.The Democratic leaders released only short statements after the meetings acknowledging that they occurred but saying little or nothing about the substance. The Biden campaign and the White House also have not provided public summaries of the meetings.

Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate in California and a close ally of former Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), on Wednesday became the latest and most prominent House member to call on Biden to leave the race. Adding to the president’s challenges, he was diagnosed with covid-19 on Wednesday, forcing him to curtail his campaign schedule.

Even before last month’s presidential debate, in which Biden repeatedly stumbled, Democrats’ internal polls showed his support trailing his 2020 levels by significant margins in key districts, according to people familiar with the data. Biden’s team had long hoped the debate would boost those numbers, but it has not worked out that way.

“Democratic House polls have not shown any change in congressional candidate standing since the debate,” said one person familiar with the data, who was not authorized to speak publicly.

In the Senate, Democrats have a narrow 51-49 majority, but Sen. Joe Manchin, a longtime Democrat who recently switched to Independent, is not seeking reelection, meaning the GOP will almost certainly recapture his seat. Even if Democrats win all the other contested seats, the result would be a 50-50 Senate split--meaning the chamber would be controlled by whichever party wins the White House, since the vice president casts the tiebreaking vote in the chamber.

That has deeply worried many Senate Democrats, given that Biden is trailing Trump in numerous polls--a sentiment Schumer expressed to Biden in their meeting. “Leader Schumer conveyed the views of his caucus,” said an aide to the New York Democrat, who requested anonymity to discuss the private meeting.

In private meetings with larger groups of lawmakers, Biden has disputed the notion he is losing to Trump or that he would hurt other Democrats and has cited polls as a defense, although he has not specified which ones prove his point, according to two of the people briefed on the matter.

The private warnings from Jeffries and Schumer are a striking message from the party’s leaders and reflect the dire outlook many Democrats see after Biden’s debate performance. Nearly two dozen members of Congress have publicly called on Biden to step aside from the presidential race, and many more elected officials privately share that sentiment.

Pelosi and former president Barack Obama, who have spoken out about the state of the race in recent days, have both expressed concern privately about the president’s path forward. Obama spoke with Biden after his debate performance, offering his support as a sounding board and private counselor for his former vice president.

Biden has in recent days launched an energetic, sometimes combative, effort to hear out the concerns of fellow Democrats, meeting virtually with five different groups of House lawmakers. He has also spoken privately with party leaders, including former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.).

Biden had a phone conversation last Friday with Rep. Suzan DelBene (D-Wash.), the chair of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which coordinates the party’s House races, according to a person familiar with the call. A DCCC spokesman declined to comment on the private conversation.

While their path to retaining their Senate majority has seemed shaky for some time, Democrats had seen a clear path to win back the House, which Republicans now control 220-213. With Republican nominee Donald Trump leading Biden in the polls, Democrats fear that a failure to retake the House would give Trump and the far-right faction of the GOP a free hand to remake Washington.

The day after his meeting with Biden, Jeffries sent a letter to his Democratic House colleagues to inform them of his conversation, noting that he had requested the meeting.

“In my conversation with President Biden, I directly expressed the full breadth of insight, heartfelt perspectives and conclusions about the path forward that the Caucus has shared in our recent time together,” Jeffries wrote, referring to the full caucus of House Democrats.

After his meeting Saturday, Schumer said in a statement, "I sat with President Biden this afternoon in Delaware; we had a good meeting.”

In recent days, Democratic lawmakers and even top strategists working on Biden’s re-election effort have grown increasingly concerned that the president is not getting a full picture of the state of the race. In particular, they worry that Biden has not meet with his campaign’s pollsters, and instead, has largely relied for advice on a dwindling circle of longtime aides.

The back-and-forth is playing out alongside a related dispute over whether to proceed with a virtual roll call that would formally nominate Biden several weeks before the Democratic National Convention on Aug. 19-22. Some Democrats say that is a necessary move to ensure that Republicans cannot challenge Biden’s nomination as coming too late; others complain that it is a ploy to cement Biden’s nomination before the delegates gather.

On Wednesday, the co-chairs of the convention’s rules committee issued a letter saying that the virtual roll call would take place, but they promised it would not be rushed and would not take place before Aug. 1. The announcement came after some Democratic lawmakers had started protesting the process and urging the party to abandon it.
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Sweeter and Savoury said:
The RNC viewership numbers are through the roof. I don't think they've ever had so many eyes watching them. the Fox YouTube channel is at 50k viewers alone
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LOL DU was saying this is lowest rated one ever. I think they were talking TV-only, which wouldn't surprise me. Who watches news on TV anymore?

It's a big problem trying to understand how many are watching just on Youtube since it's split all over channels. Same as Rumble.
 
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Mike Sneedsby said:
Who else do the Republicans have, country club guys who don't want all of their money stolen by the IRS? Are they going to attend rallies and knock doors?
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If Trump can successfully court the big unions, union guys can knock doors for him instead of for the Dems. Fundamentalist Christians will NOT knock doors for the Democrats. and most will still turn out to vote GOP. Dialing back their complete control of the party is not the same thing as shitting on them, either.
 
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Autistic Gunspergings said:
I'd reckon something like 80K viewers watching this right now, atleast on youtube. theres like 25k viewers on the RNC channel.
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More then that. There are 55k on the AP Stream I am in. Just AP and Fox is over 100k. Then there are all the other networks, and then the alt-media stream snipers. Easily 250k.

Which is obscene for a Party convention. Which most people don't give a shit about. Usually. But this is the CURRENT YEAR. And Clown World.
 
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HodgePodgeRogerDodger said:
The big warning sign for me is that neither party really has a future.

Republicans seem to be embracing Trump in an odd return to their roots as Republicans since their founding have been anti-immigration and a hodge podge of weirdos. They seem to actually be trying to solve their identity crisis.
Trump effectively pulled an Andrew Jackson by making the party reorganize itself in the last decade.

The Dems are kind of awful. They have nobody really for the national stage. Their fire brands are entirely media creations.

Their monopoly on media has betrayed them because nobody likes the media. They are stuck-up cunts.
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Before Trump the GOP was pretty much rudderless, content with losing with dignity and "taking the high road"

The Dems are super fucked. Hillary left them broke and gutted anyone that didn't follow her lockstep. She fucked the DNC hard to stop another Obama from stealing her spotlight.

tehpope said:
Newsom is smart enough to tell em to fuck off. Harris idk if she can.
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Harris could in theory, since vice-presidents can resign from the office. Spiro Agnew was Nixon's original VP and stepped down because of a corruption scandal which led to Gerald Ford taking his place.
 
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