US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Breadbassket]

That's the best mocking of the idea, they're really on the ball there. Wish Fox or anyone here was like that.

The media wants to use it as a talking point and they can't exactly say how great Biden is doing (since he isn't doing well at all) so they're probably not going to shut up about it until after the election regardless if what is being said has any truth to it or not.

 

[Necrosan]

I'm not American, but how do I convince my family that Project 2025 is bullshit?

You don't even need to convince them of anything. Just ask questions they should be asking themselves. "How do you know that this is real?", "How do you know that Trump is associated with it?", "Did you check it YOURSELF to see if it was fake or not?"

One of the reasons the media machine is so effective is because people have seemingly lost the ability to actually ask questions and investigate by themselves. I don't like the idea of just dumping info on people because then it doesn't fix the problem of people blindly trusting things.

 

[Counterfeit Obol]

It's an initiative put together by a think tank and has no endorsement from Trump?

Project 2025 is real, its power is bullshit.
It's basically just a list of demands by a thinktank with no actual power, more or less to stir shit.

Try and show them Trump's agenda 47 which is his actual political platform, if they believe project 2025 is real you have to try and convince them that it isn't associated with him at all by talking about the points in his actual political platform

That's the best mocking of the idea, they're really on the ball there. Wish Fox or anyone here was like that.

@Counterfeit Obol
You can also share the official 2024 Republican Platform which Trump helped write:
2024gopplatform.com

https://www.2024gopplatform.com/assets/files/RNC2024-Platform.pdf

Project 2025 is not official policy. It's a think tank suggestion from former Trump administrators on how to influence policy. It's up to him whether or not to use to. @Absolutego taught me that.

Sincere thanks for all your advice.

 

[Local Farmer]

I'm not American, but how do I convince my family that Project 2025 is bullshit?

What the fuck are you talking about? This is great!

 

[Betonhaus]

I'm not American, but how do I convince my family that Project 2025 is bullshit?

Say it's unauthorized fanfiction

 

[mlanguishi]

Yeah, shit on the guy that just won over a lot of union support, great timing.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

I think it's more then just the big companies seeing the way the wind is blowing.

Pretty much everyone agrees that we (the West) are in for some hard times. Things will get rough, we may even see a depression level event in the next 4 to 6 years. Something that big, that damaging to the average person usually leads to major societal changes and a lot of the big CEO's don't really want that as they're doing pretty damn well under the current system.

So if your a big time CEO in charge of billions of dollars and you've been told that a crash is coming by all these high paid types you keep around what do you do?

Keep pushing the party that make the crash possible? Keep up and hope that someone like Biden or the drones behind him, who mostly are responsible for the upcoming issues because they're narcissistic morons who only make poor choices for emotional reasons, are capable of safely navigating the treacherous waters ahead? A party who is known for flipping on a dime to save themselves? A party who chances are might very well turn on YOU, claim YOUR wealth to appease the masses to save their own asses?

Fuck No

The Elites haven't had a come to jesus moment here. They're just realizing that they're not riding a horse but rather holding on to the ears of a tiger. Shit gets really serious, a big rescission hits, the people clamor for relief but the tax base has been depleted and the Fed's magic bullets are all used up already. So what would you as a democrat politician start thinking about? Honestly? Who is the one class you can blame for all these problems? Who is the one class that has way too much money and power? Whats the easiest way to get the people back on your side?

It don't take a genius to realize that wealth redistribution would be the easiest way for the new Democrat President and cabinet to go. Take all that money, tax it 90%, fine anyone who tries to move money out or leave. You will have the plebs at the bottom clamoring for relief and the rich CEO's make a pretty damn tempting target.

No the CEO's and rich bitches ain't getting on the Trump train because they've had a change of heart and now love America. No they see where the current train is heading and they want to get the fuck off now before it ends up smashing right into them.

The second the MSM turned on Biden I knew this was the game. The elties are spooked, hard times makes for desperate times which begs for easy targets and Americans can get violent really really really easy and despite generations of gun control there is at least 2 firearms for each individual American. That's not good math if your sitting in your 600 million dollar mansion with a few billion in your bank account looking at the potential future events.

I'd advise folks get ready for the crash, have some solid currency and probably get out of the big blue cities (BBC hehe) before it's too late. What's coming is going to make current day issues look like a paradise.

Personally I've made room for my extended family where I live if they need somewhere outside of the West to flee too. I've put up a pretty impressive fence around my backyard, which I extended by buying the neighbors plot, in case I need to grow large amounts of food. To which razor wire can be added really easy and I've squirreled away a significant amount of silver and gold coins and I have a cache of firearms and ammo should shit get super cereal.

In the end you can only look to yourself to look out for yourself. Make a plan and be ready to do what you have to do to protect yours in the coming days. That's my advice.

Hope that everything turns out OK, that things will just get a little rough and wild for a few years. Prepare for the world to go to shit just in case.

Sorry to be a downer after last nights fun but once the joy joy of a Trump victory passes Americans will be very quick to blame him for their woes. No matter what Trump does, and it probably won't be that much as you know the Left will do anything and everything to obstruct him because ORANGE MAN BAD! It will take a decade or more of good proper leadership and hard brutal work to build the US out of the hole that it been put in by the Left over the last 12 years. It can be done but it will be hard, bloody and probably leave a very changed world behind it.

 

[FMW13]

Now that the RNC is over and people are filled with hope I want to push back expectations down to a more realistic level.
The election isn't going to be as smooth as people would like to hope with the rigging and whatnot going on, but more importantly I don't think people on here are realizing that the propaganda machine is in fact working on moderates and undecided voters.

My mother who is incredibly apolitical and not involved with the scene in the absolute slightest told me how scary project 2025 is when we were talking about the assassination attempt a few days ago, I had to assure her that Trump's platform was agenda 47 and not project 2025, but it just goes to show how well the media propaganda machine is working. That the average person is believing that project 2025 is real and they think it's scary.

People need to be properly educated about this propaganda and how wrong it is otherwise a swarm of undecided and apolitical voters will be voting Democrat out of complete fear for the future

Pretty much this. Everyone needs to be on their A game between now and November. Democrats are a cornered wounded animal right now. And they're slowly becoming more unhinged as the days go on.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Union leadership has no relation to actual blue collar workers.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Of all the attacks, calling Trump a scab is one of the gayest, most ridiculous ones. This is why people don't like unions.

 

[Breadbassket]

Union leadership has no relation to actual blue collar workers.

That is true but at the same time the pro-business parts of the GOP aren't going to just roll over and accept legislation or laws that may help the members of unions.

 

[Seething Troon Collector]

Pretty much everyone agrees that we (the West) are in for some hard times. Things will get rough, we may even see a depression level event in the next 4 to 6 years.

What global conflict is going to get started that will cost hundreds of millions of lives to undo the collapse? That’s the real question.

Also, how does this affect the poor trans persons of color folx who are obviously the ‘real’ victims here.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Again I like zeihan, from years ago, I saw him give one of his presentations before the Ukraine war.

I m rather sad that he is coping this hard

I think zeihan is coping hard at the current moment because his worldview is beginning to fall apart Faster thannhe realizes.

Union leadership has no relation to actual blue collar workers.

Most union workers are pretty right leaning or are disgusted with the left. Most union leadership is fresh out of college blue hairs and strong female women types who never work outside the office.

 

[Nihil Jung]

Project 2025 is real, its power is bullshit.
It's basically just a list of demands by a thinktank with no actual power, more or less to stir shit.

If they weren't concerned with the hundreds of millions spent by Soros, the 20 mill behind 2025 should be nothing.

 

[Necrosan]

Also, how does this affect the poor trans persons of color folx who are obviously the ‘real’ victims here.

100% Probability that they'll still be men after 2024.

 

[Meat Target]

Union leadership has no relation to actual blue collar workers.

Unions are the epitome of the Iron Law of Institutions. The organization's mission (better conditions, pay, benefits, etc. for workers) will inevitably take a back seat to those who use the organization as a money grift.

Union leaders are Democrat Wayne LaPierres.

 

[MudPeople]

100% Probability that they'll still be men after 2024.

They could always DIY it. All they need is a chopping board, a knife and a phone ready to call 911.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Media is throwing everything and the kitchen sink at this election cycle.
Apparently the far right has been attacking Usha Vance with "Hindu-phobic" hate.

They have, but it's the actual far right, not the "everyone is a Nazi" 49% of the country. Go check Poast or /pol/ offshoots or the nationalist podcasters, they've been calling Vance a racemixing turncoat who hates his own people because he "trashed" the poor Appalachian whites.

Thing is, those people have no representation or voice in the GOP any more. They aren't driving the memes, their leaders don't have Trump's ear (hah), they're barely on mainstream social media any more. They're adjacent to the racist shitlords who survived on Twitter and that's about it.

Any article trying to make a big deal out of them has to dig into the evil DARK WEB to find it, because the rightmost wings of the GOP aren't even complaining about it. (They're too busy complaining about the Sikh prayer and the watering down of anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ language in the platform.)

 

[Brian Oblivion]

Lulz on reddit pol new. BTW I never really use reddit but checking now and I think it's setting in.View attachment 6209433

It's also a pretty typical reddit type of distortion. These types of punitive measures aren't even for "masturbating" generally they're for inmates who are specifically known to try to jerk off on and/or throw their semen at correctional staff when they walk by.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

I dont honestly know if the MSM propaganda will be as effective as it was in 2020

A lot has changed since then, trust in the media is at an all time low and a lot of people have been exposed to their open lies now. Yah they will get more and more desperate all the election draws near but I think that will hurt them rather then help them.

The more the MSM cries wolf, the less people will come running. Diminished returns and all that. I mean they've already called Trump every bad name under the sun so how much more can they do? They spent the last 3 years covering for Biden and now that's blowing up in their faces as well.

I think the MSM will actually have only a little impact as the people watching things like NBC or MSNBC are probably already Leftoid and die hard Democrats and nothing, not even Biden standing up and outright saying he likes to fuck little kids, will change their minds. Facts cannot trump (sorry had to) faith.

As it stands the Left has kind of morphed in to an almost religious movement and not a political one. These types listen to the priests to know what to say and think and will do "the right thing" no matter what facts are presented to them.

I've always said there is a need for religion buried deep within mankind's psyche, some that years for direction, comfort and knowledge that we're here for a reason. When the Left gave up faith in god they didn't abandon faith they merely moved their faith from Him into their politics and the holy party. If you look you can easily see the trend on both sides towards a more...spiritual outlook towards politics.