Erin Reed / Anthony Reed II / @ErinInTheMorn / @ErinInTheMorning / @ErinInTheNight / _supernovasky_ / beholderseye / realitybias / AnonymousRabbit - post-op transbian Twitter/TikTok "activist" with bad fashion, giant Reddit tattoo. Former drug dealer with felony. Married to Zooey Simone Zephyr / Zachary Todd Raasch.

We can’t trust the NHS evidence? Then what is the evidence that we can trust? It sounds to me like Tony’s evidence is “Trust me, bro.”
only trannies have the divine wisdom to know the truth. evidence? facts? all a conspiracy to wipe out innocent pedophiles in dresses. the only evidence you need is how happy Tony looks with his boyfriend.
 
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I had a TRA who linked me to this website that claims this. According to people like Tony who are blaming the Cass Review, they claim the number of suicides among transgender youth on the NHS waiting list suddenly exploded from one (in seven years) to 16 (in less than three
years). Also I'm not sure about the trans population in the U.K but if TRAs insist there's a lot more trans people than people think then how is 16 suicides in less than 3 years a catastrophe when TRAs claim there's probably millions of LGBT people? I'm not saying the suicides aren't bad, but it would be like claiming "Cops are targeting black people" and then linking an article that uses similar numbers to above. If it was in the hundreds then they'd have a point.
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I also want to point out this part of the article. Not sure about anyone else but the way article is wording things its obviously trying to use "emotional appeal" to people. Also this part "The truth is that far too many young trans people kill themselves. Yet, they are not recorded, and they are not counted, and therefore we cannot prevent the loss of another young life." If they're not recorded and not counted then how do they know they committed suicide because of them being trans? In fact how would they know about this? Wouldn't these whistle blowers go to the MSM, especially with how pro trans media outlets like the BBC are?
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This is called moving the goal posts.

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Tony responds in his typical fashion. By doubling and tripling down on his fantasy after getting dunked on by an official investigation.

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Still, Snaggle Tooth is left empty handed.

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Other professional trannies , including Big Al, jumped into the fray to try and salvage the imploding phony story.


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Tony can't let go of his fantasy of a surge in troons joining the 41%' I don;t think Tony has the slightest idea that Jo Maugam has a well deserved reputation as a raving crackpot who grifts off of gulliable people and never has evidence to back up his claims. He is basically the troon version of Alex Jones.

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Tony can't read. It does not say that troonshine is safe, effective, or evidence based. Instead, it says the CLINIC provides care that is safe and evidence based. In theory, the means follwing Cass.


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In fact, I can guarantee Tony did not even read the report. The reason? It says the 2/3 of the patients were discharged with no troon care at all.

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SEGM correcly identifies Tony as a common grifter.


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Tony can't read. It does not say that troonshine is safe, effective, or evidence based. Instead, it says the CLINIC provides care that is safe and evidence based. In theory, the means follwing Cass.


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In fact, I can guarantee Tony did not even read the report. The reason? It says the 2/3 of the patients were discharged with no troon care at all.

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Of course he didn’t. He’s mardy tonight.
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The actual opinion.

It's kind of a no-brainer. You generally don't get to challenge the constitutionality of a law up-front without being prosecuted for it unless you can put on a good showing that you're in imminent danger of being prosecuted under it. Instead, the plaintiff argues exactly the opposite:
Friends of George’s (FOG) is an organization that aims to “provide a space outside of bars and clubs where people can enjoy drag shows.” Friends of Georges, Inc. v. Mulroy, 675 F. Supp. 3d 831, 843 (W.D. Tenn. 2023) (internal quotation marks omitted). It tries “to stick around the PG-13 area in writing,” rather than get “too risqué.” R. 81, Trial Tr., p. 30, PageID 1071. And FOG describes its drag shows as an “art form,” id. at 23, PageID 1064, an art form it likened to “William Shakespeare’s plays” and “Ancient Greek theatrical productions,” R. 35, FOG Trial Br., p. 3, PageID 489. Even though FOG has never performed “a script play” or any of its “pre-scripted productions” on public property, R. 81, p. 69, PageID 1110, it sells tickets to its shows without distinguishing between adults or minors. FOG says that although its shows do
not contain sexual acts, they contain descriptions and representations of sexual conduct that law
enforcement might think violates the AEA.
In other words, their concern is purely speculative and just relies on them assuming law enforcement might make a mistake and go after them for what they claim is entirely lawful conduct.

This doesn't mean the law will be upheld if applied against them, just that they can't challenge it up front (and also that there is no constitutional right to expose minors to obscene materials under the Miller test, which the statute directly tracks). So if they got prosecuted under it they'd have the opportunity to challenge it then, they just don't get to challenge it up front before any legal action has even been taken, because according to their own claims, their material does not even violate the statute in the first place, so it would be a mistake to prosecute them.

They don't just get preemptively to challenge the statute based on their thought they might be, by assuming bad faith up front.
 

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In other words, their concern is purely speculative and just relies on them assuming law enforcement might make a mistake and go after them for what they claim is entirely lawful conduct.
I thought I saw part of the opinion say that the conduct the plaintiffs want to engage in is not actually banned by the statute. Thus, they were suing for no reason.

In any event, Tony's crew is desperately trying to keep the fairytale alive.

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I thought I saw part of the opinion say that the conduct the plaintiffs want to engage in is not actually banned by the statute. Thus, they were suing for no reason.
Well, that's what they're saying. Maybe it's not true. I mean troons lie sometimes. But it's up to them to show standing and unless they're planning on doing something virtually certain to violate the law (and they claim the opposite) they have no pre-suit standing. Actually, even if they do intend to break the law, they don't have standing, because at least by current law, a law that explicitly tracks the Miller rule doesn't touch on constitutional conduct.

I don't like that rule, but it is the current rule.
 
It wouldn't let me zoom in to see if any of the sources Jo Maugham posted gave the number of patients on the waiting list vs under care. Without those, the numbers of suicides can't be directly compared. The Tavistock waiting list was years long, so I think its fair to assume that there were more on it than under care.

I also didn't see anyone post the suicide rate for youths not on the waiting list or under care, which I think is an adequate control group, so we can't even see if its higher than average. I would expect it to be given how nuts troons are, but without the data we don't know. According to this over 200 teenagers commit suicide each year.

I'm not trained in sociological data analysis, Tony is, but I'm going to assume I'm closer to the mark than him. I bring this up because, assuming my objections are correct, its more evidence that Tony is intentionally lying.
 
I would expect it to be given how nuts troons are,
This is a good point. Even if there was this epidemic of suicide, there is also an unwillingness to see troonery as a symptom of mental illness or neurodivergence. Nobody dares to say that indulging their fantasies is not the treatment they need.
 
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