Mega Rad Gun Thread

[miniature chungus]

1850-1900 was by far the most interesting period in firearms history.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Genesis Gen-12 SBS (if you’re an NFA cuck, regular otherwise). It’s Browning A5 action stuck on top of an AR-10 lower that takes Saiga chokes. Best shotgun on the market.

Unrelated to hunting, but a holo sight on an SBS (or even regular 18.5” barrels) is a cheat code for clay sports. You can move so much faster than you can with a 30+” barreled over-under and you always have an accurate sight picture. Fudds don’t want you to know that over-unders were developed decades after semi-automatic shotguns and that swing aiming isn’t the best shotgun shooting technique.

There’s a reason why Aimpoint sells a rib mounted red dot sight:
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if you want a more traditional looking semi auto (gas operated), the Beretta 1301 series and it's cousin, the A400, are Godlike

 

[Null]

You're literally not even trying bro:

Is it my fault when he's not advertising it? Lmao.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

I have just finished reassembling a Mossberg 590A1 that was stripped down to every last nut and bolt after being refinished. I'm guessing it's not that hardest gun to do that with, and it still took me longer than I would care to admit. But considering I'm basically retarded and did it without help (aside from a shitload of videos) I am moderately proud of myself.

 

[Baked Al-Aqsa]

Is it my fault when he's not advertising it? Lmao.

Yes.




From a random video I clicked on from his channel.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

over-unders were developed decades after semi-automatic shotguns

this is false, O/U shotguns had been a thing on and off since the 17th century but really rose to prominence around the first world war.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

Genesis Gen-12 SBS (if you’re an NFA cuck, regular otherwise). It’s Browning A5 action stuck on top of an AR-10 lower that takes Saiga chokes. Best shotgun on the market.

Unrelated to hunting, but a holo sight on an SBS (or even regular 18” barrels) is a cheat code for clay sports. You can move so much faster than you can with a 30+” barreled over-under and you always have an accurate sight picture. Fudds don’t want you to know that over-unders were developed decades after semi-automatic shotguns and that swing aiming isn’t the best shotgun shooting technique.

There’s a reason why Aimpoint sells a rib mounted red dot sight:
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What are you talking about? Shorter guns will work for skeet, and the close trap shots, but you need longer barrels for long trap, and sporting clays.

Also red dots don’t work well when you are trying to lead the target by 4-8 feet.

 

[quaawaa]

What are you talking about? Shorter guns will work for skeet, and the close trap shots, but you need longer barrels for long trap, and sporting clays.

There's no significant velocity gain when using a longer shotgun barrel. Paul has a video showing that the difference in velocity between shooting birdshot out of a 14" barrel and a 30" barrel is 153 FPS (results at 5:55):

Shooting a slightly hotter load would easily eliminate the difference and a lot of sporting shotgun barrels are ported which reduces the velocity gain from the extra length.

People use long barrels because they like the feeling that moving something with a lot of inertia has, but simple physics say you can move a lighter gun faster than a heavier gun.

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Also red dots don’t work well when you are trying to lead the target by 4-8 feet.

The ACRO S-2 is 9 MOA, way larger than a rifle red dot, in order to make it easier to lead with:

Its large 9 MOA red dot simplifies lead visualization, enhancing the automatic refinement of muzzle swing and positioning.

A holo sight also works well because you can hold off of different parts of the reticule.

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The sport is so traditionalist (thanks to its Euro influence) that a lot of ranges won't even let you use anything without a wood stock, so no one tries to innovate. That fuddiness is why I like pointing out that Browning Superposed (which modern over/unders are based on) came over 20 years after the Browning Automatic 5 ( which was designed in 1898 ).

If it weren't for velocity limits, the best strategy would be to shoot hot loads out of a semi automatic shotgun with a short (but not meme short) barrel, a muzzle brake, an internal choke (as the brake would go on external threads), a recoil absorbing stock, and a modern optic. Too bad there's no such thing as Open Division in clay sports.

 

[miniature chungus]

I'm basically retarded

Taking apart the trigger group means your smarter or at least less lazy than 90% of firearm owners.
Its also easy enough to watch a video on something but another thing entirely to actually do it, they always make it look easy as fuck in a 10 minute video. I was shitting and farting trying to figure out the keltec sub2000 when I dissasembled mine

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Taking apart the trigger group means your smarter or at least less lazy than 90% of firearm owners.
Its also easy enough to watch a video on something but another thing entirely to actually do it, they always make it look easy as fuck in a 10 minute video. I was shitting and farting trying to figure out the keltec sub2000 when I dissasembled mine

>90%
Honestly, if you could dissemble your entire gun and replace common parts you'd be above 95% of most gun owners. Personally, I try to be capable of assembling from scratch an entire gun (not an Armalite type, like an AK or FAL) from scratch.

 

[Taser Confetti]

You know they make 1913 rail adapters for the USP/Mark 23 proprietary rails, right? It would mean having a custom holster molded since it won't fit in any off the shelf holster with the adapter and light, but there are options out there. And as far as I know, the HK45 pistols have the same lever style mag release as the USP and Mark 23, which is probably my favorite mag release on any pistol. I like being able to use the tip of my trigger finger to drop the mag instead of my thumb and having to shift my grip. But, yes, as far as I know any .45 ACP H&K pistol (aside from the P9) can eat as much .45 Super as you want to feed it. Yet one more reason why H&Ks are the finest polymer framed pistols ever made.

Yeah I’ve seen the adapters but custom kydex is a nonstarter for me.

I think the P30,VP9 and HK45 release is better in every way.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

The reason O\U guns are so popular is getting longer barrels in a shorter and lighter gun. That and running two different chokes. Longer barrels typically get better patterns, and more velocity is always helpful.

Shotguns are pointing weapons where your eye is the rear sight. Red dots just aren’t the best sighting system for skeet, or sporting clays. They can work for trap and certain hunting situations.

I’m all for red dots. I have one on my carry pistol, but they are not the be all end all for clay shooting.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

I was under the impression that longer shotgun barrels were a relic of black powder still being in common use.

That and iron sight radius. A longer barrel is a longer sight.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

The reason O\U guns are so popular is getting longer barrels in a shorter and lighter gun. That and running two different chokes. Longer barrels typically get better patterns, and more velocity is always helpful.

Shotguns are pointing weapons where your eye is the rear sight. Red dots just aren’t the best sighting system for skeet, or sporting clays. They can work for trap and certain hunting situations.

I’m all for red dots. I have one on my carry pistol, but they are not the be all end all for clay shooting.

O/U guns are typically heavier than SxS guns. many times significantly heavier. most O/Us are very overbuilt.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

O/U guns are typically heavier than SxS guns. many times significantly heavier. most O/Us are very overbuilt.

Not necessarily. I have a Miroku O/U that is very lightweight. Some competition guns are purposefully heavier.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

I have a stupid question. Has there ever been any type of gun design that uses balls bearings or something similar for a smoother action? And if not, why not? I figure if this was a good idea somebody would have done it already, but I'm curious why it wouldn't work.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Thoughts and opinions on .400 Cor-Bon? It's apparently available and not prohibitively expensive, but nobody talks about it other than boomers and their spawn like it's the best thing since sliced bread and nothing to back it up.

I have a stupid question. Has there ever been any type of gun design that uses balls bearings or something similar for a smoother action? And if not, why not? I figure if this was a good idea somebody would have done it already, but I'm curious why it wouldn't work.

The Savage Impulse(straight pull) uses ball bearings for locking surfaces and it's reportedly very smooth. Haven't handled one yet myself.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

I have a stupid question. Has there ever been any type of gun design that uses balls bearings or something similar for a smoother action? And if not, why not? I figure if this was a good idea somebody would have done it already, but I'm curious why it wouldn't work.

Here is a breakdown of one.

Apparently they are really common among hunters in Germany and in Biathalons.

 

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Hickok45 is known for being a "Fuck you, got mine" guy, thinking going along with it will allow him to keep what he has. He's bent the knee to gun legislation as well as shilled the ineffective panhandlers known as the NRA forever.
It's not surprising.

Has he ever even acknowledged that he was paid to do all the product placement he does?

I thought that had been required on videos for at least a couple years now. Never seen him even acknowledge that.

You’re not wrong, but by the time you are in your 70s, there will be avenues to attack you and your family that you will not have the capacity to understand. Every skill, every technology you have mastered will be barely relevant in the ways that they will fuck you and yours over, and some 20 something Gen Gamma brat will be chewing you out for your impotence and complacency.

William Luther Pierce pivoted technologically til the end. Of course, he was a physics professor with a well-developed world-view, not the lazy teacher who'd roll out the TV to avoid having to teach halfway through the term like ol hickok.

Yes.
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From a random video I clicked on from his channel.

Oh, well, if he included it in a video description at the bottom instead of EVER EVEN ONCE PROMOTING IT IN THE VIDEO THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY WATCH that's very different.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

I have a stupid question. Has there ever been any type of gun design that uses balls bearings or something similar for a smoother action? And if not, why not? I figure if this was a good idea somebody would have done it already, but I'm curious why it wouldn't work.

IIRC the manhurin MR73 uses bearings in the trigger.