Valve introduces Steam Deck

That's very much just a shooter thing. But even for the Dual Sense, that's entirely on a per-game basis, and they're really just haptic triggers in the end.

Depending on how they've done it, I have a hunch ZOTAC might have stuck that on without fully understanding it, or even what games get played on handhelds. If it's not software controlled, always having 2-stage triggers would be really fucking annoying for anything else but shooters.
 
SSj_Ness said:
Why would you even want that?
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Its a tactile keyboard autistic thing. Some people like clicky buttons with a short travel distance, some people like triggers to have a long travel distance to register. Having two stages let's you switch between both of those settings and satisfy both weirdos.

If you ever watch a Wulff Den review or Spawn Wave review they will talk about button clickyness, feel of the Dpad, etc. as an evaluation point of a product.
 
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Dr. Geronimo said:
Emulating gamecube games since the triggers were dual stage too.
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That's true and I actually liked that, but the PS5 style I'm assuming that new handheld PC is going to use feels weird and cumbersome. It's like you're fighting the controller instead of having an extra degree of control (like Mario Sunshine letting you press less or more to control the water).
 
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That's true and I actually liked that, but the PS5 style I'm assuming that new handheld PC is going to use feels weird and cumbersome. It's like you're fighting the controller instead of having an extra degree of control (like Mario Sunshine letting you press less or more to control the water).
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The GC was just an analog trigger, with a button pad at the end of it.

The other triggers omit that last part and just simulate it as the end part of its travel. That just begs the question of what ZOTAC did cause that introduces a compatibility issue. The GC trigger is literally two inputs/buttons, and even shows as such in Dolphin. Modern triggers just folded that into itself as a single input.

inb4 they just stick an additional adjustable spring that starts right before the hard pull threshold.
 
Sorry for the necro is it even called that when the last post was only a couple months ago?

I got the OLED Deck and I'm happy with my purchase. Played through Binary Domain without any issues and managed to install the emulator stuff.
Going through Xenosaga and Signalis right now.

I wanted to share something that I found while loading ROMs from an external HD. To preface, the HD had multiple partitions on it (NTFS, exFAT, and whatever Mac uses).
For some reason, the Deck would not detect the exFAT partition. I didn't find anything online that solved my issue so I decided to reformat the entire thing to exFAT since the other two partitions was old data that I had no need for. This worked and the external was recognized by the Deck. I suppose the root cause was the multiple partitions? That's just a guess on my part.

I know there was an easier way with SSH and stuff, but I just wanted to plug and play. I hope this helps someone who encounters the same issue.
 
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For some reason, the Deck would not detect the exFAT partition. I didn't find anything online that solved my issue so I decided to reformat the entire thing to exFAT since the other two partitions was old data that I had no need for. This worked and the external was recognized by the Deck. I suppose the root cause was the multiple partitions? That's just a guess on my part.
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Did you set up the partition in Linux or Windows? I believe that that some Distros may not see a partition if it's been set up in Windows.
 
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Did you set up the partition in Linux or Windows? I believe that that some Distros may not see a partition if it's been set up in Windows.
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I set it up in Windows. For some reason, the Deck could see the Mac partition (I didn't even know I had one until I plugged it in).
It was visible when I was initially testing it out. After that, it just couldn't access it anymore. Doesn't matter at this point though since I'm just chillin' with my comfy PS2 games.
 
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The Ghost of Kviv said:
I'd prefer to have 8x c-cores, and use the saved die space to add as many CUs as possible. And remove the NPU as well. This should allow for 12 CUs with N3. It's not like I expect the Deck to play games at 1080p60, and the consoles have a gimped CPU anyways.
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That's fair. I mentioned parts that AMD can get off the shelf because it's claimed that the Steam Deck's APU was a custom design for a Microsoft Surface product, Microsoft backtracked on it as they have been known to do, and Valve ended up with it instead. I have no idea if Valve will go custom for a Steam Deck 2, but that would probably lead to a better outcome.

Kraken would make for a good laptop or handheld, but 8x RDNA3.5 and 128-bit memory doesn't look like enough of an improvement over 8x RDNA2 to meet Valve's targets. It's yet again imbalanced in favor of the CPU.
 
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That's fair. I mentioned parts that AMD can get off the shelf because it's claimed that the Steam Deck's APU was a custom design for a Microsoft Surface product, Microsoft backtracked on it as they have been known to do, and Valve ended up with it instead. I have no idea if Valve will go custom for a Steam Deck 2, but that would probably lead to a better outcome.

Kraken would make for a good laptop or handheld, but 8x RDNA3.5 and 128-bit memory doesn't look like enough of an improvement over 8x RDNA2 to meet Valve's targets. It's yet again imbalanced in favor of the CPU.
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AMD somehow makes 700 different APUs per year. Problem is most of them are garbage with insane pricing. I doubt the semi-custom pipeline they have is all that hard to put together, more how to get aggressive pricing which Valve may have had leverage due to bringing forward an entire product category.
 
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AMD somehow makes 700 different APUs per year. Problem is most of them are garbage with insane pricing. I doubt the semi-custom pipeline they have is all that hard to put together, more how to get aggressive pricing which Valve may have had leverage due to bringing forward an entire product category.
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Yeah it's wild. We're transitioning into a new era where the "Mega APU" will be an actual thing, e.g. Strix Halo with up to 40 CUs and more importantly a 256-bit memory bus and 32 MiB of Infinity Cache. Pricing is asinine but you have to remember that laptops are the top dawg now. They outsell desktops, normies love 'em. The APUs tend to be quite a bit cheaper in mini PCs, but there's no evidence at all that they will be a better deal than building your own desktop with an adequate CPU (low-end) and discrete GPU.

I want to reward Valve for going so hard on Linux gaming. I have not bought a Steam Deck but I think this second version will reel me in, with Zen 5c or better cores and a decent iGPU. AMD's iGPUs are not much compared to the stupendous amount of performance they are getting out of CPUs. Like 4x Zen 2 was sufficient for most games in the Steam Deck, but the Strix Point flagship will match the 7950X in single-threaded and 5950X in multi-threaded. Damn! This will continue to be the case because APUs are often paired with dGPUs.
 
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Came here to sperg about the case Dbrand makes.

In short, it's overpriced, makes the deck really bulky, might scratch the deck when you put it on and if you use the official dock you need to buy more of their garbage in order for it to fit.
 
CreamyHerman’s said:
What are everone's thoughts on the ROG Ally X? I am still thinking alot about the Gamers Nexus scandal vids with it plus @Slav Power post with it.
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I'm avoiding it. If Asus had put out a minor revision fixing things like it melting its SD card I could maybe have more faith in them. I'm also completely adamant now that these handhelds have to have track pads. Asus still didn't put a track pad on it so fuck them.

I'm holding out for either the lenovo legion go 2.0 if they release a better one or the steam deck 2. Valve made windows drivers available for steam deck if you truly wanted to run it. I'd probably try that on the version 2 if I felt compelled enough to run windows to play the handful of games I can't.
 
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What are everone's thoughts on the ROG Ally X? I am still thinking alot about the Gamers Nexus scandal vids with it plus @Slav Power post with it.
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What are you going to play? My Deck has become a portable emulation machine that I play the odd PC game on its it is perfectly fine. I should also note that the OLED screen is amazing and puts the Deck way above any competitor. It’s the thing you are going to spend 100% of your time looking at.
 
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Almighty Space Duck said:
What are you going to play? My Deck has become a portable emulation machine that I play the odd PC game on its it is perfectly fine. I should also note that the OLED screen is amazing and puts the Deck way above any competitor. It’s the thing you are going to spend 100% of your time looking at.
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Oh I'm not going to get it lol, I have a Steam Deck OLED as well, just wanted to see what y'all's opinion of it is.
 
CreamyHerman’s said:
Oh I'm not going to get it lol, I have a Steam Deck OLED as well, just wanted to see what y'all's opinion of it is.
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Oh, well it’s not really an original opinion but I think that the Ally and all the other handhelds are over spec’d and are trying to push too many pixels for the size of screen they have. All this comes to the detriment of battery life and compromises them as handhelds.
Then there’s the problem of how shit windows is on handheld which is even more apparent with how good SteamOS is.
 
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