US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Screamer_2]

Man ... I am really, really curious to see if there will be any more debates. We all know that Trump is more than happy to partake, but what about Kamala and the Dems?

The Dems really can't afford to back out of debates after what happened with Biden, even if they are claiming they are "taking the high road against the Orange Man, who is not worth debating." lol. Kamala needs to show up, AND she needs to deliver on the debate (which she's not capable of doing, based on what we have seen). This will turn off SO many independent voters and undecided voters.

They can't hide Kamala in the basement and make the fraud look plausible ... Especially not after an entire week of the country asking where the hell Joe Biden went, uncertain if he was even alive or not.

From all the various chatter and narratives about the debates, it seems they really don't want to have Kamala debate Trump. Whether they'll be able to do that is something we'll see.

I think the plan is to have Kamala only doing scripted moments and a massive propaganda push to election day. Trotting out scripted lines about Trump being a predator. The Prosecutor vs the Felon angle. Lots of sound bites that people will cling to and share.

People have this fake notion that because she was a prosecutor she's quick and sharp. That's based on the fake Hollywood pretence of how courts and lawyers work. Pretending it's all on the fly, seat of your pants, out thinking in the moment. Which isn't how it works at all. It's very planned out and boring. So they'll just run the line she'll destroy Trump, then never let us see that isn't the case.

She's probably one unscripted moment away from tanking like Biden did. So they'll avoid that at all costs. They knew this worked with Biden for his entire Presidency. They'll just run it with Kamala. She tanked her primary run in 2020 by being unprepared and unable to do anything that wasn't scripted. Which is why Tulsi tanked her entire run in a few brief sentences. While Kamala had nothing to say to refute it.

 

[ATI Escapee]

Supposed video of Thomas Matthew Crooks' father coming out of a Walmart.

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Honestly fuck those people for harrassing Crooks' parents. Ive seen nothing that even hints they were anywhere near complicit in their kid's decision. They literally called police on him well before the rally. I am sure they are having one hell of a time dealing with not just losing their kid, but losing him in the way they did. Not sympathizing with Crooks, but his parents are innocent and surely heartbroken.

 

[Gehenna]

Also keep in mind Kamala is ironically being raised up by the "She's temporary" mindset of the Democrat's party right now. A lot of people are waiting until the DNC to see who the 'real' candidate is. Whether they articulate to that or just intuively think it.

 

[Harvey Danger]

why have they never used this model? or does it have the flaw of falling apart after a couple sentences in a row?

There have been previous schizo theories that a lot of his appearances in the last year were AI generated. Anons obsessively comparing the shape of his earlobes to old footage, the outline of his skull, showing "glitches" behind him in the background, etc.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

The Kamala ads I’ve had the displeasure of seeing these past few weeks have all just been about abortion, despite the decision being left up to the states (aka, not the federal government, let alone the president or vice president). For every single issue voter on abortion, you’ll likely see at least five think the economy is a bigger issue. The entire Dem strategy seems extra off this election season. There’s no real unifying message, and even being anti Trump isn’t as much of a draw as it was in 2020.

I have been seeing one that looks like a repurposed anti-Biden add about the border. They focus on her instead of Biden. I started seeing it yesterday.

 

[Autistic Gunspergings]

How big is the "blue no matter who" crowd? I get the impression that the internet seriously inflates the amount of those types of people.

 

[Mike Sneedsby]

Friendly reminder, any Kamala bump in the polls should be taken as heavily suspect and ignored until the start of business hours next week. In fact ignore -all- polls until then, for your sanity. Especially given the developing situation, growing discontent over the lack of voter choice, lack of Kamala being seen broadly, uneasiness over Trump's future campaigning, larger events involving the USSS being a shitshow, the wondering if Biden was even alive, and many other small events... frankly it might take until the DNC for opinions to finally solidify on kamala.

Most polls are for shaping public opinion, not gauging it.

 

[Nod Flenders]

Even though Biden is out of the race, the issues remain the same.

Remember, it's not about gaining more voters from your side, as Trump already has all of his base locked in, and Harris has the Dem base locked in. It's about getting the undecided voters.

The big issues are inflation and the border. Trump has to keep hitting those issues over and over again. Don't forget, Kamala has been tied to Biden to the hip for the last four years. She can try to run away from Biden's record, but she's been there the whole time.

It's not time to get blackpilled. Just relax and stay vigilant. Don't get overconfident, but don't panic.

 

[AnotherPleb]

I’m wondering if the polls are skewed just to demotivate people from voting in November because “well, Kamala’s doing better in the polls anyway”.

Or the American population is just really fucking stupid.

There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

God damn I just want some consistency from the retard doomposters. So which way is it, are polls overselling Trump to make Republicans complacent, or are they underselling him to make it easier to secure the steal? You literally can’t have it both ways.

I just assume that the Republicans can't afford to get complacent as the Democrats can and will use any means necessary to steal the election from Trump.

 

[Gehenna]

It hasn't even been a week yet.
The first day of the week (yesterday) they've somehow conducted polling to conclude that Kamala is more popular than Trump. It's literally all bullshit

The reason kamala and the other's did so 'well' is because:

A: People insert all their preferred issues into spaces they don't know meaning anyone who didn't have a solid cmapaign before got a slight bonus (This would be nuked via exposure either fromt he candidate themsleves or attack ads)

And

B: "Oh thank God I can stop pretending Joe Biden isn't a vegetable"

 

[ForgedBlades]

PA ad.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Women are fucking retarded and will vote to kill babies even if it means they're going to be raped by waves of illegal spics and niggers. You're horribly optimistic if you think that single issue voters on abortion will ever vote for Trump.

Pretty sure there's a significant amount of women out there who care more about putting food on the table for their families and being able to fill up their tanks of gas without going poor. They are also pissed about the rising crime everywhere.

College-age women who are childless and promiscuous bimbos? Yeah, the left already has that demographic locked. Middle class moms though? That's going to be a different story.

"It's the economy, stupid," is an old saying that keeps coming back for a reason.

EDIT: Lots of middle class moms are waking up to the culture war, too. Virginia, a blue state, voted for Youngkin as governor almost solely based on the shit that's been going on in the public school system for example.

 

[Coptakhenaten]

Mentioned this on an another thread but any other media propaganda blitz had some leeway to be seen as "true." It was bullshit, but there was something. The Kamala Harris propaganda blitz coming out is so sudden it's horrifying.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

since the DNC have to utterly CRUSH any thought about a coup against Kamala to stop her coronation.

i mean shes literally a black woman and its the democrats who all understand how bad it would be to lash out at a black woman, even the old heads like bernie sanders knows not to force the issue, its literally the reason barack obama called his bluff when bernie was planning on primarying him. just the optics alone will destroy you overall but especially in the democratic party. so if you try it you better be willing to abandon the party which is why joe manchin is the only one willing to try it. plus if someone did have the political capital to win against literally blacks and women in the DNC, they'd have used that power way back in 2020 when those groups basically gave Biden the nomination. there's a reason why in less than 24 hours and one workday kamala got enough delegates to get the nomination.

One of my favorite people to follow in regards to polling analysis is Rich Baris.

Just mentioning this in case people don't know about him.

he's fucked up enough times in mid terms that i don't trust him overall. he might have done better than most with the presidential stuff but thats like predicting which sports teams will make it to the playoffs, its harder to fuck that up than not. he's too close to enough anti-kiwifarms lawtubers and looks too much like flamenco for me to like him.

Look how much fun she is though! The rythm!

not to sound like thelaststand, but i might be one of the few people on this site to like kamala, my mom is a windswept bitch from the same area and of the same age as her and actively bullied fun loving bimbos like her with a passion. So thats probably most of why i like Kamala. She really is like the feminine Id of america the same way that Trump is the masculine Id. like if those two were married they'd be stereotypical america.

Like Kamala when she's in her element is great and enjoys the goofy nigger shit and would probably encourage your stupid hobbies you'd have as a kid, but obviously is anxious and awkward as shit and can't really function outside of the womenly areas of the world. She'd thrive at the bake sale, but actually running a baking business is a no go. Plus to even PL further, i too default to laughing in uncomfortable situations, its not the right response except if you're a caregiver or acting in such a role where 90% of the shit people will be asking of you is literally childish things like complaining about missing a tv show or falling down in the dirt. no need to act like the world's falling, its really the best option when you're at a dinner party because if not someone complaining about something silly its them telling a story or saying something they want a laugh from.

What the fuck is this shit?

most people watch the news the same way they watch roadrunner cartoons, the concept of "canon" literally doesn't make sense to most people especially if you're using it in a real world context. i've seen at work managers give the exact opposite answers to questions within the same workday.

Seriously. The DNC is done. You cannot recover

you're personifying an organization. its like saying Mercedes-benz can't recover from supporting the losing side in 2 world wars. the DNC isn't a person. it doesn't have shame' because it doesn't have feelings.

and they think he looks weird and ugly and gives them the ick.

you do know there are women on kiwifarms right? i've been tracking and that is in fact a 100% accurate viewpoint of women. But honestly the media and cunt havers in general were always going to hate Trump's VP pick. the fact that he's as revolting to women as Null is just icing on the cake.

that's the biggest fuck you i've ever seen.

BiBi doesn't seem to realize how fucked he is. he better have every israeli social media tool used to support trump or he'll treat israel like its ukraine.

 

[Weppers]

The writing is on the wall guys. Suddenly all these rich fucks who were supporting Trump are getting cold feet. I wonder why?

I'd love to know why you just uncritically repeat the claims being made by Meidas Touch, of all sources.

Also, if you like to tell other posters worrying about politics is a waste of time, why are you going to be in here tomorrow? And the next day? You'll be reminding us next week politics is a waste of time. You';; be telling us all through August how stupid it is to be checking the news instead of touching grass. You're going to tell us every 30 minutes, for about 13 hours out of every day, how stupid we are for spending time on this. Why would that be?

 

[DicksOutForKiwigglers]

Pretty sure there's a significant amount of women out there who care more about putting food on the table for their families and being able to fill up their tanks of gas without going poor. They are also pissed about the rising crime everywhere.

College-age women who are childless and promiscuous bimbos? Yeah, the left already has that demographic locked. Middle class moms though? That's going to be a different story.

"It's the economy, stupid," is an old saying that keeps coming back for a reason.

Except we're in clown world where everyone sees the rising prices and shrugs. No one genuinely cares anymore about the economy. As long as they have their soma they're content. The election at this point is simply a popularity contest. It will come down to, "Do you hate Kamala more than you hate Trump" for independents. I'm inclined to say most of them do, but not enough to beat out fraud in November at this rate. The polls and everything I talked about before I cited not to hand wring and go, "Kamala is ahead in the polls! No one likes Trump!" I cited them to show that they're setting up the social engineering to legitimize the fraud in November.

I don't want to be right. But they cheated before. What is stopping them from doing it again? I'm not going to give up. I will still vote for Trump but the fact is... There is nothing stopping the Democrats from cheating with Kamala. Biden was so unlikeable and senile that even the Democrats had to acknowledge he was unfit to be president. No one would buy the fraud with Trump +8 points ahead in the polls. But Kamala +2 points ahead or even tied with Trump? The braindead masses will readily believe that.

 

[Autistic Gunspergings]

Even though Biden is out of the race, the issues remain the same.

Remember, it's not about gaining more voters from your side, as Trump already has all of his base locked in, and Harris has the Dem base locked in. It's about getting the undecided voters.

The big issues are inflation and the border. Trump has to keep hitting those issues over and over again. Don't forget, Kamala has been tied to Biden to the hip for the last four years. She can try to run away from Biden's record, but she's been there the whole time.

It's not time to get blackpilled. Just relax and stay vigilant. Don't get overconfident, but don't panic.

to add onto this, I think a lot of people feel politically disenfranchised because they've just never bothered to go look this stuff in detail up out of stigma/motivation. I think a lot of people would feel more motivated to voooote, or at least support a political party if they actually have details to go off of.
obviously dont shove it in some random persons face, but if you have a friend you're politically on the same page with, but is politically inactive for whatever reason, I think it'd be worth it to casually point them towards the RNC, or a trump rally if the topic ever gets mentioned.

 

[Vaclav]

Her failures are less immediately in your face as Biden and the worry is that all of Trump's efforts to show how insufferable she is will fall to death ears through the media propaganda machine. The best case I can hope is she flounders hard in a debate with similar viewership numbers as the Biden one.

In a way the admin hiding Kamala away from public view has worked in her favor. People don't draw a strong association between her and Joe's parade of disasters because she's been mostly out of the public eye.

Still, she's similar Hillary in that people like her the most as an abstract idea. Her surging popularity doesn't come from any quality of her own but the fact that she's not Joe so people think she'll have a better chance to beat Trump. She fails hard anytime she has to appeal to the public and now that's what she has to get out and do. There are no excuses this time, she can't hide in a basement because of Covid. We'll see how well she manages to paper over her entire record and put on a persona people would actually vote for.

 

[Seething Troon Collector]

How big is the "blue no matter who" crowd? I get the impression that the internet seriously inflates the amount of those types of people.

Tiny compared to the rest of the country. By land area, it really is the rest of the country versus the west coast, New England, along with the states these people are fleeing to in order to escape the consequences of their shitty politics. Also, how many TDS-affected Redditfags do you know? Probably not many compared to normal, well-adjusted people.

 

[Screamer_2]

Also keep in mind Kamala is ironically being raised up by the "She's temporary" mindset of the Democrat's party right now. A lot of people are waiting until the DNC to see who the 'real' candidate is. Whether they articulate to that or just intuively think it.

While I'm sure this is all being contemplated. It's probably just inevitable she'll be the nom. We know the playbook if they want her out. They'll put her in a non-scripted setting. She'll tank, then they can roll in a replacement.

One of the problems is that the massive pro-Dem propaganda machine is not directly or entirely controlled or coordinated. Word goes out that Kamala is the presumptive nominee and the machine automatically starts cranking out the propaganda pushing for her. Which severely hampers the Dem elite's plans to put someone else in. So they'll really need to have something massive to tank her. As the NPC's brains have been updated that Kamala is Qween.