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I guess I am just used to the world where conservatives wanted us in Iraq and Afganistan for life.
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That was started by Democrat President Eisenhower.

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But if you want to get down to brass tacks, it was Democrat Woodrow Wilson who formed a bridge between the US Taxpayer and what would become Israel.
 
What timeline are you living in. Trump Republican party is the single most anti war party right now. Liberals and Democrats want total war with Russia today.

Trump wants to buddy buddy with China and Russia. Democrats and WEF neocons want total geopolitical domination over the world.
It is breaking my brain. I had a turbo feminist yesterday telling me that world peace would be capitulation to Russia.
 
There's the possibility the Trump team wants them to keep Kamala. Or is just keeping their powder dry
yeah I don't see any real bonus for Team Trump to go hard on Heels-Up Harris for now, just push Trump and dump on general liberal policies until there's a clearer view of who they're picking

also lol the dems must have some sort of cheevo with not one, but TWO rigged primaries that completely shut out the voting public from a functional say (even by normal voting standards)
 
And Biden got his ass kicked in 2008 by Bathhouse Barry Obama, Crooked Hillary, and that sicko creep John Edwards. Even corrupt literally who Bill Richardson got double the vote he did. He got 1%, barely above the MPAA's lobbyist thug Chris Dodd.

Point is, just because she wasn't anyone's first choice doesn't mean she won't be their choice when you put her against the Big Bad Orange Man who will end our democracy with Project 2025.
The reality is that it doesn't matter what or who the candidate is. A monkey in a suit would get approximately the same support as Kamala will now get. Democrats have been spending the past 60 years or so beating it into their voters' heads that voting Democrat IS the only way to be. Voting anything but Democrat is voting against your own interests, makes you a delusional traitor (because Democrats are for the poor and middle class, Republicans are ONLY for the hyper rich and big businesses), and makes you not black. You become responsible for the deaths of queer and trans and black and disabled people, and actively push us to annihilation via world war, genocide, and global warming.

Vote blue, no matter who, is just the catchy way of saying the quiet part out loud, but it's been that way for ages now. It's why people like Pelosi don't have to worry about anything they do, because their electorate will just re-elect them every time for 50+ years. Once they're the nominee it no longer matters what the voter thinks, they must support.
If they could just steal every election, why shoot at Trump? That's what I keep thinking as people doompost about the Dems' invincible election cheating machine.
For multiple reasons.
1 - It is easier to not cheat. If they can destroy Trump legally then they can safe money and resources by beating him with the weaponized legal system instead. See how they tried to make him unable to hold office because of felonies that he hadn't even been convicted of yet. They also attempted to cheat in the primaries to make him fail the nomination to force a split vote like with Teddy. When their legal attempts failed and only energized his base, they switched to the impossible-to-fail option of just killing him and auto-winning.
2 - Joe wanted to stay the president longer. Joe can't beat Trump and his declining mental faculties make it obvious he can defeat Trump even less than before. Democrat party has long run on nepotism, and for the same reason why they ran Hillary against Trump instead of Bernie or someone actually electable, they tried to keep Joe in the race. He basically could only win if he just didn't have an opponent.
3 - To make an example of Trump. Just as they sued Fox News for a billion dollars for not immediately pulling all of their commenters in line related to J6, how they have not just thrown the book but the whole library repeatedly at Trump at every step to try to punish him legally, especially for how he 'incited' J6, and how they have imprisoned peaceful protestors like violent terrorists, the best thing they can do is make an example of people so no one dares try it again. If the attempt succeeded then it would speak even more loudly than the JFK assassination: don't even think about stepping out of line. We'll destroy your reputation, we'll take the presidency away from you, we'll steal every penny and possession from you, and then we'll kill you live on tv, and no one will do a thing about it.

They failed, fortunately, and it is vanishingly unlikely to succeed with a second attempt in the same campaign. Had they chosen to accept their loss, Biden would still be candidate. Instead, they switched him out. People who think that the Democrats would literally murder Trump but can't or won't cheat him out of an election for a second time have some odd reasoning.
 
Imagine going up to a group of people who are aware of the multifaceted craziness of the world right now, and saying "Hey maybe we should have a 59-year-old Libra woman as President of the USA!"

The reactions would be funny, admit it.
 
The enthusiasm for Kamala isn't fake, but it's not enthusiasm for Kamala, specifically. It's enthusiasm to have a candidate who doesn't look like the Crypt Keeper. Democrat voters are excited to have someone younger and photogenic who feels like she could beat Trump, keep the border open, keep the Ukraine war going, keep the money printer going, keep the kids trans, and all the other priorities they have these days. Plus First Woman Of Color President is starting to get them really excited, nothing excited a Democrat like putting an incompetent woman of color into an important position so she can destroy things other than maybe giving cross-dressing pedophiles access to kids.

Democrat President Eisenhower.
Eisenhower was a Republican, and the only Republican to win the White House from 1932-1968.
 
I assume a lot of us are voting for Trump because of his fiscal conservative policies and strong stance on border control.
I'm voting for his foreign policy. He kept a lot of countries in check and strengthen ties with allies. Also I am an expat living in a country that has the perpetual threat of invasion so I feel safe with him at the helm. I don't want to be jammed in the landing gears of an Air Biden flight if it comes to that.
 
Inflation only increased around 1 percent a year with Trump. That's more than enough to secure my vote. A lot of people can't afford another four years of Biden economics. How many terms can you afford your money being devalued by 30%?
If Trump does lose, well, America gets the government it deserves.
What timeline are you living in. Trump Republican party is the single most anti war party right now. Liberals and Democrats want total war with Russia today.

Trump wants to buddy buddy with China and Russia. Democrats and WEF neocons want total geopolitical domination over the world.
This is an oversimplification of Trump's opinion on Russia and China. Trump knows the US is no longer in the shape it needs to even bluff to Russia about escalating a wider war. And Trump isn't friendly with China either seeing as how his platform requires rebuilding domestic manufacturing. It's just that he acknowledges the multipolar world, and that world requires diplomacy.

Hard agree on Liberals wanting war now. They simply expect other people to do their fighting for them.
 
If Trump does lose, well, America gets the government it deserves.

This is an oversimplification of Trump's opinion on Russia and China. Trump knows the US is no longer in the shape it needs to even bluff to Russia about escalating a wider war. And Trump isn't friendly with China either seeing as how his platform requires rebuilding domestic manufacturing. It's just that he acknowledges the multipolar world, and that world requires diplomacy.

Hard agree on Liberals wanting war now. They simply expect other people to do their fighting for them.
The way Trump talks about Xi makes me wonder if he wants to fuck him.
 
Diana Moon Glampers here with your whitepill morning update.

You doomers are insane.

I talk to a lot of Democrats. A lot. Here are some observations from the last 48 hours.

1) The enthusiasm for Kamala is absolutely 100% fake. They are faking it for the same reason hostages fake enthusiasm if you tell them to: there is a gun to their heads. The gun is called a second Donald Trump term. They have been told for so long that this will lead to their death and the death of people they love that they believe their only responsibility is to download the newest NPC update ASAP and figure out the nicest things they can say about Kamala. They have swallowed their uncertainty and held back their questions, but the uncertainty and questions are still there. They are the "grinning mask over crying face" wojak brought to life.

2) The Democratic Party does not believe it can win, and does not like Kamala as a candidate. As evidence, I offer the fact that there has been in the last 48-72 hours a complete reshuffle of potential VP contenders. Before Kamala was actually able to start asking people officially who would be her VP, the candidates discussed most were other presidential hopefuls like Mayor Pete and Gretchen Whitmer. That all changed when Kamala started actually courting VP candidates. Suddenly it's a parade of literally-whos that Democrats are acting enthusiastic about but who are clearly a second round of choices after the entire set of presumed first-round draft picks jumped back yelling "not it!" If Pete or Gretch thought 2024 was even a potential win, they'd hitch their wagon to that star.

3) Taking 1 and 2 together, the new second-string VP candidates are also getting the exact same kind of rictus grin "Yes this is totally exactly what we want, Trump/Vance really won't know what hit them now!" desperate copium from Democratic propagandists on social media. Warmed-over leftover Tim Walz is getting his knob gobbled all over Twitter because he didn't crash and burn while MSNBC lobbed softballs at him for 15 minutes last night. Mark Kelly is supposedly the odds-on favorite because his wife got shot and the Dems are dripping with anticipation at being able to say "one of ours got shot, too!" Roy Cooper? Really? What's also really interesting about the new VP list full of people no one ever seriously considered until all the "big names" had dropped out is that they're all extremely boring white guys. This is not a party that is actually confident in its rainbow coalition messaging.

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4) Democrats are not great at maintaining fake enthusiasm for the months required before the election. Just last week they were smugly saying "haha, Trump peaked too early," but this sudden coconut-mania that has taken over the party is obviously unnatural and unsustainable. I'm not even sure it will hold until the convention. Kamala has a reputation as an awful boss and that is going to start leaking and making people uncertain within weeks. The NY Post said a few days ago that at the actual convention, delegates will be shunted over to picking Mark Kelly as president. Given the CDN blind item up above about Kamala being photographed at orgies, I wonder if this oppo research will be quietly given to delegates in the hours or days before the convention, allowing them time to choose a new candidate.

5) Trump has been very quiet about Kamala so far. I think this is very, very reasonable. It's far from certain she will really be the candidate until after the DNC, so spending a ton of money on ads against her could be a waste of time. Besides, it's far better if you have some really great oppo research docs to wait to release them until the "sorry, no refunds" period of the event. You can expect Trump to keep his powder dry until then, precisely because this is the candidate he'd like to run against. If Trump truly did not want to run against Harris, you can bet he would be getting out all of the best oppo research and putting it out there right now. He's driving around playing golf. He wants to keep quiet until she's the official nominee. The Democratic media is grinning while it says this must mean he's scared of her, rather than realizing it means he's waiting until post-convention to bring out the big guns.
 
Despite what the trannies at wikipedia will have you believe; Eisenhower was a Democrat. He was what we now call a RINO.

More like Democrats are Republicans. Even during the days of their predecessors the Federalists, Republicans were the party of central banking, a strong federal government, censorship, intervention in other hemispheres, etc. They just infected Democrats with the same progressive statist bullshit. Trump is the outsider changing the party for the better.
 
Despite what the trannies at wikipedia will have you believe; Eisenhower was a Democrat. He was what we now call a RINO.

First the 1950's were a very different time and it's not fair to judge any of those people based on modern interpretation of liberal/conservative values. Second, Eisenhower was lied to steadily by the CIA to the point that on his way out of office he gave one of the best speeches that do relate to modern times warning us about the coming military industrial complex (that now rules the world).

The Iran debacle was more a British fuckup, the US just took credit for it because the UK had to keep their hands clean publicly.

There's a FANTASTIC documentary about Mossagedh's overthrow named 'Coup 53' that everyone interested in the subject should watch. Torrents are available - I don't know the rules about magnet links on KF.

 
Is Donald Trump even a conservative at this point? His primary planks are world peace, space exploration, and helping the working class including unions. The dude is running to the left of 2008 Bernie and somehow the Republicans have need been more excited to vote for someone.
No he's not a conservative because his goal is to actually win and connect with people rather than shidding and farding about how the reckless Dems are driving too fast in the social change lane and we just need to go back to the 90s. CONSERVATIVES ARE FUCKING LOSERS AND DON'T CONSERVE ANYTHING.
 
The way Trump talks about Xi makes me wonder if he wants to fuck him.
China does diplomacy differently than most countries in that it is very personal and is more about individuals than nations. Biden can do diplomacy in Europe despite being brain dead because Biden doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things as the bureaucracy of the two nations is doing most of the work. In China it isn't seen as the US bureaucracy doing diplomacy with China's bureaucracy, it's Biden doing diplomacy with Xi and because he is a drooling retard he has made no headway. Trump who does business in China knows how it works and it is why he is very nice to Xi even when criticizing China. Because at the end of the day Trump will need leave the door open for diplomacy with Xi.
 
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