Liz Fong-Jones / Elliot William Fong / @lizthegrey - 'Consent accident' enjoyer, ex-Google employee, nepotistic sex pest, Robert Z'Dar look-alike who wants authority over the Internet

[Joe Cool]

Fuck yourself, Elliot. We know what you did. More people are learning everyday what you did. And you will never, ever be a woman. Have a nice day and remember that.

 

[popsoda]

Sorry, sorry. I just want to chime in, don't mind me.
I know you're reading this thread and I just want you to know that no - No, you do not pass.

 

[TooManyKittens]

You can be sure this brick-faced chink is still scheming and plotting. He never gives up.

If he's quiet its because he's plotting and trying to put into motion some new plan. This dumbass didn't have the sense to not poke the kiwi bear when he was a brief mention in passing due to association with scamming grifting charity troons.

He could have disavowed those two, not the charity, and forgotten us. We probably never would have given a fuck about him, or if we did he'd have a 10 page thread that died in 2019 going ex Google consent accident wtf.

But Elliot isn't that smart, and he's far too controlled by his narcissistic personality to let it go now. If we stay up and on clearnet, and even findable to a degree, his publicized win is nothing but hot air in puff pieces from the same era as keffals getting ass kissed by Taylor Lorenz.

I'm personally inclined to never take eyes off this cow until one or the other of us is dead. Because while he may be silent, id rather wait for decades to see if he fucks up again and expose it. I assume he's doing his damndest to take us down he just at the moment doesn't have the social capital to burn. That could change.

 

[Joe Cool]

If he's quiet its because he's plotting and trying to put into motion some new plan.

Every time he does something more people find out about consent accidents which costs his employer. I'm betting that he's been told in no uncertain terms to STFU if he wishes to remain employed. He kind of has to capitulate at this point because nobody else would employ him, and having a couple of mil doesn't mean a lot anymore.

 

[AStupidMonkey]

If he's quiet its because he's plotting and trying to put into motion some new plan. This dumbass didn't have the sense to not poke the kiwi bear when he was a brief mention in passing due to association with scamming grifting charity troons.

He could have disavowed those two, not the charity, and forgotten us. We probably never would have given a fuck about him, or if we did he'd have a 10 page thread that died in 2019 going ex Google consent accident wtf.

But Elliot isn't that smart, and he's far too controlled by his narcissistic personality to let it go now. If we stay up and on clearnet, and even findable to a degree, his publicized win is nothing but hot air in puff pieces from the same era as keffals getting ass kissed by Taylor Lorenz.

I'm personally inclined to never take eyes off this cow until one or the other of us is dead. Because while he may be silent, id rather wait for decades to see if he fucks up again and expose it. I assume he's doing his damndest to take us down he just at the moment doesn't have the social capital to burn. That could change.

He's up to shit.

Looks like you called it.

Here is your Kiwi Gold, kind sirs.

 

[Temperance]

Went digging through Liz's old blogs [1] [2] for anything interesting. This ended up being a very long post, so feel free to scroll to the bottom for a tl;dr.

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While at Caltech, Liz sent out an email about troonery to some of his fellow students/housemates.
https://web.archive.org/web/20071024033043/http://elizabeth.caltech.edu/2007/05/01/a-personal-note [Archive]

I had discovered what being transsexual meant when I was doing a biology research project as a sophomore in high school, and instantly realized that I had found the words to describe the turmoil I had been struggling with since puberty – I felt that I was female, yet I had been born in a male body. Although I discussed the issue with my parents, we came to an impasse – they could not understand how I felt, and did not want to allow me to change. I came out to my high school almost exactly three years ago, at the end of my junior year; at that point, I was able to finally switch over and begin living my life honestly as myself, but without the approval of my parents.

My primary concern when I came to Caltech was to leave all of the baggage and labels from high school behind, and just be an ordinary member of the Caltech community. In high school, I was seen as trans first, and as a student second; people constantly commended me for my courage in coming out, rather than for my academic and extracurricular pursuits. I didn’t feel that it was courage; instead, it was an act of desperation and need that forced me to become more true to myself.

Now that I’ve been here for nearly two years, I think that I’ve gained what I’ve desired – to have a fresh start, and to give people a chance know me without any preconceptions. The Caltech community has taken on the role of being my family, since my relations with my parents have been strained. All of you deserve my complete trust, and I apologize for having had to conceal details of my life from you. I fundamentally dislike having to lie to people, telling half-truths, or dodging the simplest of basic questions in order to achieve a form of stealth. I’m opening up from this point forward.

One of the most common questions that’s asked is, “Are you planning to have surgery?” Before I answer this, I think it’s important to note that very few trans people are able to obtain the surgery – perhaps up to 1 in 500 people who are born experience strong transgender feelings, but some estimates have it that only 50% of trans people under 30 survive until 30 years of age due to being put out on the streets and being murdered or committing suicide, and that only 2% of us actually end up being able to afford and undergo the surgery that will permanently correct the physical incongruity of our bodies. There are many people who choose not to have the surgery, because they find that it’s unnecessary for their own happiness. Surgery is not a decision taken lightly – in order to qualify, patients must have been living in their new gender and taking cross-sex hormones for at least a year, as well as pass two independent psychological assessments. Being transsexual is about permanently changing the gender one experiences and presents to the outside world, not about sex. Sexual orientation is entirely orthogonal to gender identity – I consider myself to be lesbian, but there are people of all orientations who undergo transition.

In my case, I’m very blessed to have been able to scrape together the thousands of dollars for my reassignment surgery through working in the computer games industry. I’m leaving for Thailand on Saturday June 9, the day after finals are over, and I’ll be operated on four days later, June 13.

This was written just a little more than a month before his SRS in Thailand.

Frustratingly, it seems like the Wayback Machine failed to capture any of Liz's blogposts about the surgery or the immediate aftermath. There's a post from three weeks before the surgery, and then there's a big jump to a post three months after the surgery.

Spoiler: The Gap

Blogpost: May 5th 2007
https://web.archive.org/web/20090912002303/http://elizabeth.caltech.edu/2007/05/21/three-weeks-out [Archive]


[SRS takes place in June 2007]

Blogpost: September 3rd 2007
https://web.archive.org/web/20071024033128/http://elizabeth.caltech.edu/personal [Archive]
^^ (Scroll to the bottom)

This gap is possibly due to Liz renaming this section of his blog (as he mentioned above) from /trans to /personal. Sadly, the /trans page failed to archive correctly, and the archives of the /personal pages [1] [2] don't reach far enough back to see the missing posts.
For instance, you can see from the post above that there was an August 12th blogpost, but there's no archive: https://web.archive.org/web/2007102...u/2007/08/12/life-the-universe-and-everything

Apparently the /trans section used to be private (or you needed a direct link to see it).
https://archive.ph/3J8aP


Liz suggests there were at least six pages of blogposts under the the /trans section. Feels like a lost treasure trove.

Failed archives:
https://archive.ph/o/wfDbd/https://...3128/http://elizabeth.caltech.edu/trans/?pg=6
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://elizabeth.caltech.edu/trans/*

Elsewhere on his blog (before he made the /trans section public), he phrased his trip to Thailand as a "vacation".
https://archive.ph/QogLF

BTW, Liz only told his father the truth about his SRS in Thailand about five months afterward. From a blogpost written in November 2007: https://archive.ph/IjK3I

I woke up around 11:30 to call my father and break the news about my trip to Thailand. I wanted to speak with him in person while I was up in the Bay Area, but our schedules did not permit this. He seemed relatively unshaken about the matter, and I’m hoping that there will not be a major crisis relating to this disclosure; I wanted to get the weight off my chest, and hopefully it’ll eventually lead to a path of reconciliation. I’m hoping.

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Anyway, back to the actually funny/interesting content...

Spoiler: Dilation woes - Long but highly recommended!

https://archive.ph/wfDbd (Ctrl+F "dilat")
Starts off optimistic...

Slowly gets worse:

Turns into "screaming agony":

Losing sleep because if it:

Improving?

Lol no. He has to start dropping classes. Mentions having an "atrocious GPA".

Starts thinking about taking a break from school.

Tries to make up for his failed/incomplete classwork:


And also copes about how he doesn't mind that his stinkditch has lost depth (because he's a "lesbian" who doesn't need depth, apparently). Then why is he bothering to dilate at all, you might ask? Good question!


https://archive.ph/IjK3I (Ctrl+F "dilat")
5 months post-op update. Stinkditch dilation is still a huge problem for Liz. He calls it "torturing myself for a few hours every day", and he also says he developed a repetitive stress injury (RSI) in his right wrist from dilating so much. Liz considers dropping out or taking a break from Caltech.

He remarks that dilation has been taking "just" 3-4 hours per day as of late.

Big update. Liz finally decided to drop out of Caltech. He feels isolated and partially attributes this to all the time he has to spend dilating everyday.

6 months post-op update. Check out this lunacy:

I managed to get dilation done in under 3.5 hours today, which is much better than the 5-7 hours dilation’s been taking over the past week.

I’m still having problems standing still in one place even 6 months post-op. Not as crippling and I don’t collapse immediately – I may just need to be persistent and keep pushing the limits of my strength there.

https://archive.ph/EYR75
8 months post-op update. Liz is pleased to announced that he's down to dilating for only about 2 hours everyday. He also dropped out of Caltech and started working at Google.

His dilation schedule at 9 months post-op:

Later:

And this seems to be the last update, after more than a year post-op. He's now in "maintenance mode" of dilating twice a week.

tl;dr Dilating his stinkditch was painful and extremely time-consuming for Liz, to the point that it was causing him to fall way behind on his schoolwork due to the stress and sleep-loss.

• Liz Fong-Jones lied in those podcasts [1] [2] I've previously covered. He claimed that he dropped out of Caltech because of money issues and already having a job waiting for him, but the truth is that he was failing his classes. He really seems to enjoy rewriting history to make himself look better.

Spoiler: More lies from Liz

Liz also claimed in those recent-ish podcasts that his parents basically disowned him at age 16 (when he came out as trans), and he was subsequently forced to be semi-homeless for awhile. He also said his grandparents paid for him to attend Caltech.
His old blogposts, which were written during his time at college, paint a slightly different picture.

https://archive.ph/WDTXX
Suggests that his parents were financially supporting him in college. Admits that he was keeping secrets from them and breaking promises. I strongly suspect that one of these secrets or broken promises was about Liz's stinkditch surgery, which he got just four months prior to this blogpost.

As is, I’m going to need to take an extra term to graduate, and I suspect that my parents won’t pay for that. So I’ll need to have another $10k saved up by then to pay it out of pocket (that is once I own up to them how much I’ve gone through without trusting them, and how many promises I’ve broken). I really don’t know why I’m even still going to school – it’s not helping my career at all, especially given my atrocious GPA now that all of the I’s I took last year have gone to F’s and I need to retake those classes anyways.

https://archive.ph/IjK3I
Here, Liz admits that his parents were paying for his college, and he was worried about how dropping out might affect his relationship with them. He was age ~20 at the time of writing this, so clearly he wasn't disowned at 16.

I need to fill out a TON of paperwork this weekend in order to formally drop all of my classes except three and get the underload petition prepared. I’ve been putting this off the entire term and feel as if it somewhat rubs salt in the wound of my not being able to productively get work done this term. I also need to find an advisor who is willing to take me on (especially in spite of the fact that I am considering time off). Furthermore, I feel as if I have wasted a large amount of money due to the fact that I didn’t drop these classes earlier in the term – I could have gotten refunds for underloading and saved my parents some money. Bleh.

How will the prospect of time off affect my relationship with my parents?

And here, he thanks his father for supporting gay marriage. Liz was age ~21 at the time.
https://archive.ph/EYR75

I owe a hat tip to my father for co-authoring an amicus brief before the California Supreme Court in favor of gay marriage. Thank you, Papa. I love you.

Liz mentions "a turning point" in their relationship a little bit later, in an April 2008 blogpost. This is the infamous situation where his mother hid from him during Liz's impromptu visit.

Then he got mad that they didn't contact him for his 21st birthday:

A year later:

Relations with my parents continue to be strained (but cordial)

So overall, Liz Fong-Jones is clearly lying when he says (nowadays) that his parents disowned him at 16 and cut him off financially. His claims of homelessness in his teens are most likely a lie or exaggeration as well.
These blogposts show that his parents still cared about him and were even paying for him to attend Caltech. Seems like they only started to distance themselves after they learned that he got the stinkditch surgery during his "Thailand vacation".

• Liz secretly got SRS in June 2007, admitted it to his father in November 2007, and then his parents started acting standoffish in 2008. Not a coincidence. But even after that, they apparently stayed cordial. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Liz was a proto-Lia Thomas. Liz broke some kind of swimming record (for women) at Caltech.
https://archive.ph/IjK3I

Yesterday was the prelims for Interhouse swimming. I swam the 50 breaststroke and the 100 IM. I ended up at 4th in the IM going into finals, and 1st in the breaststroke. I’m a bit conflicted about having broken the Interhouse record for the women’s 50 breaststroke, as the IOC rules require that one be two years postop prior to being able to compete; I’m only 6 months postop, and have been on hormones for only 15 months. To be fair, I did take 3 years off from swimming, so it’s not as if I inherited or continued to build up muscle mass under the influence of testosterone. I really doubt it’ll be an issue for anyone at Tech, but it’s more of a conscience issue.

On Thursday, Blacker won Interhouse swimming for the first time in at least 5 years. The women’s 200 medley relay team won, and I won the 50 breast (although I didn’t beat the record I set on Tuesday). I’m feeling less bad about the record since Justine, whom I swam with in high school, was only 0.2 seconds behind me in prelims (equivalent barely half of a stroke). Both of us beat the record, and it so happened that I was just a split second faster. The margin of victory was about 25 points. Blacker dinner went wild when we announced that we’d won. As soon as the amount of time I spend on dilation goes down, I think I want to start training again so that in a year and a half when I become eligible to compete officially, I’ll be able to attend Senior+ meets in Pacific Swimming.

A few years later (in 2011), when Liz was looking to go back to college to finish his degree, he considered trying to get into Wellesley College - a private women's college. What a creep! He evidently failed and instead went to MIT.
https://archive.ph/4SdHJ

I’m considering applying for the Davis Scholars program for either Spring 2012 or Fall 2012 depending upon whether spring transfer applications will be accepted this coming year. There’s a catch, however. I transitioned over seven years ago. It’s my understanding that FtMs are allowed if they enrolled as women and later transition, but I’ve heard conflicting reports as to whether trans women are welcome at Wellesley.

[LINK] seems to say that yes, it’s “a matter of time” before a trans woman is accepted.
[LINK] seems to indicate that trans women are disqualified.

Can anyone provide insight?

I think you misunderstood what I meant when I said that I am a trans woman. I’ve been living as female since I was sixteen, and I’m now nearly twenty-four. I’ve never felt male, despite having been assigned male at birth.

Thus, it makes perfect sense why I feel as if I’d fit in well at a women’s college. I’m a computer scientist working as a systems administrator; only 3% of my colleagues are also women, so I’m looking forward to an environment that is less hostile. But the primary reason that Wellesley is of interest to me is the Davis Scholars program, which would provide me with support and peers who are also non-traditional students. I interrupted my education in order to work to support myself, and am seeking to work and simultaneously finish my degree as a part-time student.

TBH, whether I’ve had medical procedures performed is none of your business. If you’d been a little bit nicer about asking, I might even have pointed you at my blog where I discuss some of the physical processes involved in my own gender transition, but I happen to be open about my history. Other trans people you might encounter might not be. And having medical procedures has nothing to do with whether or not someone is “female enough” - many people can’t afford those medical procedures, even if they want them (some people don’t want surgery, for instance), so there are serious issues of class privilege associated with demanding that someone “must have surgery X” to be considered gender Y.

I happen to have passing privilege, but it’s really irrelevant whether I “look indistinguishable” from a cisgender female individual. I lucked out, but it’s unreasonable to demand that people “look right” to your standards in order to be considered “female enough”.

I happen to have passing privilege

More college discussion here [1] [2], although it's all pretty boring.


We know from old tweets that Liz was involved in the San Francisco "kink/poly scene" in his late teens or early twenties, but I surprisingly don't see any mentions of this in his blogposts, which were written around then. Maybe he kept his blog clean out of employment concerns.
There's a small hint of degeneracy here: https://archive.ph/EYR75

Violet Blue (warning: definitely NSFW unless your work is cool) came and gave a talk at Google recently about the nonsense of abstinence-only sex education as part of an ongoing series on her perspectives on sex education. She was a fascinating speaker; I recently had time to go and page through the links and informational tidbits on her website, and am impressed by the breadth and depth of the resources she’s written and collected. I may very well decide to take BART up to Berkeley and check out Good Vibrations (nsfw. duh.) at some point in the next month or two. While I’m mentioning bloggers I like, I probably should give a shout out to Pam’s House Blend and to Feministing which are on my daily (and sometimes more frequent) list of things to read.

Liz helped moderate a "safe space" Internet forum for troons - called TrueSelves. It's now defunct, and there aren't many (convenient) archives of it.

Spoiler: TrueSelves

https://web.archive.org/web/20071024033128/http://elizabeth.caltech.edu/personal

• TrueSelves is a forum I help moderate for both MtF and FtM identified individuals. We currently are seeking to preserve a “safe space” and do not accept significant others, friends, family, and allies at this time, but there other resources out there that fulfill that need.

https://web.archive.org/web/20071113083826/http://www.trueselves.com/forum/
https://web.archive.org/web/2007121....php?f=1&sid=28e10417def9484659b6c00ab01c57b0

More archives here, but it's like dumpster diving:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.trueselves.com/forum/*

Liz was also active on another forum called GenderLife. He wrote a guide to injecting hormones for them:
https://web.archive.org/web/20090912002254/http://elizabeth.caltech.edu/2006/12/09/injection-tips [Archive]
GenderLife is defunct as well, so looking for Liz's account won't be easy. In case anyone wants to trawl the archives: https://web.archive.org/web/20240000000000*/https://www.genderlife.com/forum/


Flickr account with Liz's wedding pictures (from 2011): https://www.flickr.com/photos/20331085@N04/ (Archives not working)

Spoiler: Large Image

Very cringe article about Liz's wedding: https://offbeatwed.com/massachusetts-queer-church-wedding/ [Archive]


Liz apparently had a (small?) cameo in a Thailand SRS documentary which aired on British TV.
https://archive.ph/3J8aP

I was on British TV last week when I talked to Lucy Parker’s grandfather Kevin on camera about 2/3 of the way through the recent documentary that aired about her journey to Thailand for SRS.

I think one of these two videos are possibly what he's talking about, but they're Age-Restricted, and I don't want to make a burner account just to view them: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqrkC1T1nQdDfm_CgtpfuVVTVsw6C46Ka
Selfish Request: Can someone please skim through them and clip Liz's part if he's in there?

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TL;DR / Blog Highlights

• Liz Fong-Jones has claimed in recent years that his parents disowned him at age 16, when he came out as transgender. These old blogposts (written when he was in college) show that he's lying. His parents continued to support him and paid for him to attend Caltech. The breakdown in their relationship appears to have happened after Liz secretly got SRS in Thailand at age 20. But even after that, Liz described his relationship with his parents as "strained (but cordial)".
• Liz also lied about why he stopped attending Caltech after just two years. He claims nowadays that he didn't want to go into debt paying for college, especially since he was already able to get a good job in tech. The truth, as detailed in the blogposts, is that Liz was failing his classes.
  • Funnily, he started failing his classes because of his agonizing stinkditch dilation schedule. I recommend reading the "Dilation woes" section of my post. Liz was painfully dilating for 4+ hours everyday, to the point that he developed a repetitive stress injury in his wrist from holding the dilator. Even with all that dilating, he still lost "depth" in his stinkditch - Liz coped about this by saying that as a "lesbian", he doesn't need much depth anyway. But yeah, dilating caused him to fall behind on his classwork.
• Liz broke some kind of women's swimming record at Caltech. Shameless! And then a few years later, when he wanted to go back to college to finish his degree, he apparently tried to get into a private women's college.
• Liz was a member of a couple early-Internet troon forums, called TrueSelves and GenderLife.
• I found a very cringe article about Liz's wedding. If you like "Reddit"-style cringe, you'll probably enjoy it.

 

[Roland TB-303]

Have any of you extremist right wing nazi faggots thought for a moment that those women in snuff films actually enjoy being killed?

 

[Temperance]

Liz's very short cameo in the British TV documentary about SRS in Thailand:
https://youtu.be/rXKbXFtefX0 (Timestamp: 29:26)

"Elizabeth, a post-operative transsexual..."
He just whines that his family doesn't support his transition.
"The hardest thing, I would say, would be uhhhm... COPING..."

 

[InteracialBowelSyndrome]

Have any of you extremist right wing nazi faggots thought for a moment that those women in snuff films actually enjoy being killed?

If Erriot made a snuff film it would look like this:

 

[Dizzydent]

I know that's an old video but damn seeing Elliot in motion really reinforces what a male he actually is. The voice isn't terrible for pretending to be a woman but that's probably just a result from never using it, being the kid at school who eats his lunch alone every day when growing up.

 

[Obnoxious Asshole]

Went digging through Liz's old blogs [1] [2] for anything interesting

We are so back.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

• Liz Fong-Jones has claimed in recent years that his parents disowned him at age 16, when he came out as transgender. These old blogposts (written when he was in college) show that he's lying. His parents continued to support him and paid for him to attend Caltech. The breakdown in their relationship appears to have happened after Liz secretly got SRS in Thailand at age 20. But even after that, Liz described his relationship with his parents as "strained (but cordial)".
• Liz also lied about why he stopped attending Caltech after just two years. He claims nowadays that he didn't want to go into debt paying for college, especially since he was already able to get a good job in tech. The truth, as detailed in the blogposts, is that Liz was failing his classes.

While it's informative, I find this difficult to laugh at. This basically is what happened to a friend's son from around 2018 to early 2020, when their son trooned out, lied to them during college, and cut them off. Time is a flat circle, history rhymes, etc., etc.

That said, this is incredible detective work. Liz Fong-Jones, Field CTO of honeycomb.io, is an unreliable narrator and habitual liar whose account of anything, up to and including his "consent accident," should not be believed unless confirmed by a third party.

Wear this with pride. You've earned it.

 

[Temperance]

I know that's an old video but damn seeing Elliot in motion really reinforces what a male he actually is. The voice isn't terrible for pretending to be a woman but that's probably just a result from never using it, being the kid at school who eats his lunch alone every day when growing up.

And then for laughs, compare it to a modern example. That jaw is just plain remarkable! It didn't look quite as bad when he was just a young troon in that British documentary, but it's somehow become more and more pronounced as he's aged into a gross old eunuch.

(With some bonus shilling for Amazon. "Let's go save the planet together with #arm #Graviton processors!" )

 

[UncleTusky]

A few years later (in 2011), when Liz was looking to go back to college to finish his degree, he considered trying to get into Wellesley College - a private women's college. What a creep! He evidently failed and instead went to MIT.

I can't be bothered to look upthread but I'm near positive he went there as a non-matriculated/professional program student: MIT admissions considers anyone who has completed at least one year of university a transfer student, no exceptions, and Elliott would have been rejected with his terrible grades at CalTech. I don't even see an option for part-time students. However, there are professional and executive education classes with no admissions requirements other than paying the tuition.

Put more bluntly - Elliott bought his way onto MIT's campus and didn't get a real degree from there.

Edit to Add: Both Wellesley and MIT are incredibly selective schools. Elliot didn't just buy his way into a program, he bought his way into being able to put an elite school on his CV. Before anyone says 'take off the tinfoil hat' notice that Elliott didn't consider public universities like the University of Massachusetts at Boston. They don't come with bragging rights but they are dirt cheap compared to MIT and more used to handling & accommodating non-traditional students.

 

[Obnoxious Asshole]

A few years later (in 2011), when Liz was looking to go back to college to finish his degree, he considered trying to get into Wellesley College - a private women's college.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Did he really believe he could pull that off? The balls this asshole left on the operating table must have been huge.

Put more bluntly - Elliott bought his way onto MIT's campus and didn't get a real degree from there.

MIT sold out thirty years ago. They looked at Erriot as a way to check off a lot of DEI boxes and get paid for it. Also, a marginal transcript from Caltech is the kiss of death for a transfer on the merits. He had to buy any degree he could.

 

[TooManyKittens]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Did he really believe he could pull that off? The balls this asshole left on the operating table must have been huge.

MIT sold out thirty years ago. They looked at Erriot as a way to check off a lot of DEI boxes and get paid for it. Also, a marginal transcript from Caltech is the kiss of death for a transfer on the merits. He had to buy any degree he could.

Id honestly not wager his degree isn't real. Especially given he landed Google fairly soon after MIT.

Two reasons, one this is back in 2011. The height of troonery hasn't even happened yet, much less the backlash that is starting nowish. Were pre 2016 tumblr, trump, and everything else. A transwoman isn't *that* common, it's a checkbox in LGBT category.

Second, depends on what Elliot did and cal tech and mit did. If (rainbows) Elliot was doing great until that last semester, he might have gotten a lot of those grades dropped in the end. My own uni had a special marking on transcripts for "medical withdrawal" which was noted and thus deen differently than any other kind of withdrawal. A huge surgery would have counted, that it was GRS a very eft leaning uni only makes it more likely.

If there was an essay or interview for admittance, I'm sure the retcon lie version of woe is my my parents cut me off is what they heard and were told.

Add all that up and MIT probably saw an easy DEI checkbox who is likely to do way better than the hoodrat from Philly or Baltimore *and* they just don't offer him any scholarships. Full tuition paid for a less risky diversity student.

By the 2010s, in field or at least close to it STEM bachelors degrees were basically requirements for most entry level gigs in tech, unless you were gonna work for some consulting firm that didn't care and ride experience.

I'm fully inclined to believe he got a real bachelors from MIT.

 

[RedMage]

Eventually something is going to go very wrong in his life and he is going to need all that money he is burning to take down the forums.

Because something always goes wrong.

 

[teriyakiburns]

https://youtu.be/rXKbXFtefX0 (Timestamp: 29:26)

I can't help but be amused that the music they used in the doco is "the power of denial".

Two reasons, one this is back in 2011.

This might count against your thoughts a bit. Google in 2011 was expanding massively in a still-competitive market, throwing huge sign-up bonuses at every half-way competent techbro they could find, even the ones that only appeared competent on paper, just to keep them out of the hands of their immediate competitors. A lot of Google's still-emerging structure problems stem from that era. They hired geniuses, but they also hired midwits who could pretend to be geniuses long enough to pass the weird google interviews. Goog were also already at the vanguard of what we now call DEI (I think it was called "workspace tolerance" or "workspace inclusivity" back then, or something along those lines), so once Elliot was inside the door, he could immediately start leveraging his status as a shield against his competence being questioned.

 

[enamelled toothbrush]

I was listening to yesterday's (July 23rd, 2024) MATI and Null spoke rather vaguely about a default judgement against a certain someone being overturned. This immediately caught my interest because it seemed like it was a possible reference to our favorite brick-faced sex pest. So, I attempted to do some digging into the case against Vincent Zhen to see if the default judgement had indeed been overturned. Unfortunately, it hasn't.

However, a few interesting and hilarious tid-bits about the case were revealed as I was trying to navigate the cluster fuck that is the various Australian court documents systems. I don't know if anyone had posted the actual complaint by Elliot in the thread but I ended up locating it here (archive). Reading through it, there are quote a few lol-worthy quotations. In the opening few paragraphs, Elliot describes the farms and uses the fucking Wikipedia description. Once again, proving that this freak will use his friends to launder falsehoods until they are accepted as truth via media manipulation:



Immediately tries to poison the well by bringing up the Final Solutions LLC and saying it's a holocaust reference even though at the time of the litigation, it didn't go by that name:



In a later section that includes character references in support of Elliot's reputation, there was this gem about Elliot being given the biggest room at a conference, as if that means anything. While another character reference describes Elliot as "scrupulously ethical", a laughable statement:




Elliot then goes on to list some of the mean things we've said that have hurt his feelings. Which are all most likely true. He then goes on to describe how this has affected him. One I found particularly funny was where he complained about being photographed at his little Cloudflare protest. A public event that he advertised in a public place. Proving once again, he's a such a lying fuck:



He describes how his reputation has been damaged particularly among Australian readers, bringing up these two hilarious quotes:





Then after that it's a discussion about how damages and whatever. Feel free to read the complaint yourself to find any other funny bits. I think I got most of 'em though. One other notable thing about this is that the judge ruling on the case was the Hon. John Efthim, an Associate Judge of the Supreme Court of Victoria, who is pictured here sitting on the left:



The thought of this ghoulish old fuck reading through this complaint and having to rule on this bullshit gave me quite the giggle.

Anyways, after reading through the original complaint I tried to see if there had been any updates. I couldn't find anything saying that the judgement had been overturned but I did find some new filings about a bankruptcy proceeding. Apparently in Australia, if you owe someone a debt and haven't paid, that person can file a claim and have you declared bankrupt. Or something like that, yes it's retarded. Read all about it here. So basically, Elliot is mad that Vincent hasn't paid him his money yet and is trying to get Vincent declared bankrupt. However, it appears that Vincent has finally gotten off his ass and is taking actions to fight back. In one of the filings for the bankruptcy case there is this little note:



While I have absolutely no faith in the Australian legal system, there is some chance that Elliot's little victory is short lived due to there being actual resistance for once. Even if it does get overturned, I highly doubt we'll see any articles written about it. I also wonder if Null has some further insight into this case but can't share. There are several layers of obfuscation to the Australian legal system and I'm sure many documents are hidden behind pay walls or having to register to use databases, things I didn't feel like doing at the time.

 

[Bucephalus]

Kris? Cool. I hope Kris Tyson is next.

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