Approved 2024-07-25 - Stebbins: DMCA via Gimp Slave

[CornBogFitz]

Aight, people, let's close the thread. The war camp has just suggested Null that he should watch anime to raise funds. He's not doing it. Especially not Keijo. Haven't you been paying attention to the new Pippa thread?

No I don’t pay attention to vtubers. I’m not as big of an anime fan as you weeb

Link the thread or tell me what happened

 

[Lokenstien]

This seems like a side quest that's going to be overly annoying to do with the equivalent of mildly tasty mushroom as a reward. However my legal knowledge could easily be described as "fucking retarded" so I don't have much input on the matter. Ultimately, sustaining the longevity of the Kiwi Farms seems more important than proving legal points.

 

[William Tyndale]

Josh asking that it be used for another purpose (technically) is basic courtesy. He understands the value of trust and that's why he did this

I give Josh $20/mo. How much do you give him?

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

I consider it really unwise to unnecessarily get involved in lawsuits, as a general principle.

In this case, specifically, I doubt much good will happen.
1) The courts like settlements. They want parties to settle. Settlements mean less work for the courts. If some third party tries to get involved and shit on a settlement, the court is likely to be disinclined towards that party on standing and merit
2) even more so when that party is KF
3) I think the court reading that settlement (which it approved) as a violation of the 13th Amendment is... "unlikely."

Even in the alternative, I don't think stebbins is likely to be stopped in any meaningful way by intervention in this case. He will continue to do things for free while legal expenses happen on the other side (except for people dumb enough to represent pro se). It would possibly be funny but it's not like he needs to have his string pulled for that.

I know they're better heeled, but I'd rather Liz dong gone and the tech companies have to worry about the litigation fund than this dumbass.

 

[Hax1337]

So not only does Jones have to do the gobbler's bidding, he also has to pay him?
Fuck me, that's like being a mega janny.
I think I'd rather blow my brains out than accept this fate.

 

[Punished Brent]

Things have been going great since Josh started getting legal with retards because it set an example. If he doesn’t continue with this one it could encourage like minded individuals and KF could lose some ground

 

[Lach]

Ever heard of biting off more than you can chew, look having a $150,000 litigation fund sounds like a lot but you are aware you're technically using it as a company's getting lolsuited by retards fund, several larger companies have to spend millions of dollars every day just handling several litigations some of them even losing and having to fork over millions more, I think it's wise to just stay in your lane for now in case you run into more litigations in the near future that would make you wish you weren't being so frivolous with what you have which isn't really a lot in the company lolsuit world. Anyways, if Jarrod's situation really is unconstitutional, his situation can be reasonably fixed by someone else in the near future any ways.

 

[GenociderSyo]

I don't know the details of case but if your poor enough to not be able to pay the fine you are poor enough to get legal aid or a public defender so I do not understand why they would chose to go pro se against a guy who is known to love to sue people.

 

[Dr Naomi Hunter]

We should be non interventionist like the USA pre World War Two.

I vote no.

 

[Meowstery]

Someone might have suggested it already, and I'm no lawyer, but wouldn't it be very easy to just give Jarod $1800 so he can pay off the retard tax and stop being a slave. I don't think we should get involved unless it starts making actual trouble for us though. If Null spends more than a few minutes of the day dealing with this idiot I say go for it, otherwise put the paper into the shredder with the rest of the DMCAs. In true MATI fashion, I'm not voting!

 

[Dadude]

I’m just parroting the same thing said before by others.

Great on principle of defending the farms where it is legally antagonized, just make sure to spend wisely.

I’m sure people would be willing to donate if the lawsuit is important, though there is no way this is getting the 150k war chest of the other fund. Not enough TTD involved, but maybe it would help.

 

[Jump]

Why get involved with retards? And you would have to spend money to undo legal mistakes a retard made. And you would have to interact with him to make sure he doesn't make new retard mistakes.

Just having the big war chest sitting there saves you from having to defend new lawsuits that actually threaten the farms. Its the legal version of Mutual Assured Destruction. Attacking you will cost the attacker big money. Leaving the money sitting in the chest is better then pissing it away on stuff like this IMO. So I also vote Nah

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

Jones fucked up no doubt, he pozloaded my neghole but does he deserve to pay that much to a truly terrible human being who only lives to fuck over other people? I say no.

I say be the hero Null, not because Jones is worth saving but because David A Stabbins is worth crushing. He's human excrement who deserves nothing but what he has. Every victory will just embolden him and the world is full of suffering enough without this massive cunt making it worse.

For the record I kicked in shekels to the Legal Fund and I say use it. Let Hardin fuck with Stabbins 100%.

Unleash the beast!

 

[Inflatable Julay]

Why get involved with retards? And you would have to spend money to undo legal mistakes a retard made. And you would have to interact with him to make sure he doesn't make new retard mistakes.

Just having the big war chest sitting there saves you from having to defend new lawsuits that actually threaten the farms. Its the legal version of Mutual Assured Destruction. Attacking you will cost the attacker big money. Leaving the money sitting in the chest is better then pissing it away on stuff like this IMO. So I also vote Nah

Have you watched MATI lately? Jersh goes out of his way to start shit now.

 

[RandomInteger]

While it is sad that the retard got himself into that situation, we should hold our cards until we have a bigger hand to play with and the seas are calmer to sail. With any random tech tranny a single "girl tawk" away from putting the site on critical mode at any time we need to choose our battles wisely. We're also in the middle of an election season where the entire US is at a heightened retard level, it's too much of a risk.

$10,000 from the war chest spent arguing in court with this retard could buy new server/site infrastructure or help mitigate financial strains in case Josh himself needs to Saul Goodman himself out of a situation. I do support making a PSA again on how exactly NOT to end up like this guy.

 

[Irrational Exuberance]

I don't like the optics on this one, boss; mainly, I'm concerned with how it will look to the courts that are already overseeing the cases that you are involved in. I vote no.

 

[AnimeSucksCopeAndSneed]

I vote for a third option: fundraise for a Kiwifarms-purpose fund related to site protection and stability, ask Hardin, and obey the brightest minds.

I am not smart.

EDIT: changed "fundraise" to "fundraise for a Kiwifarms-purpose fund related to site protection and stability"

 

[Hax1337]

wouldn't it be very easy to just give Jarod $1800 so he can pay off the retard tax and stop being a slave

I think that would set a bad example.
What if another retard finds himself in a similar predicament, should Josh keep paying for stupid people that stepped in shit?

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Isn't the main rule on Kiwifarms to laugh at retards, but never to tard wrangle?

 

[Just Hamsters]

I could see this being fucking funny, so I voted yes. Probably poor strategy, however.

Maybe once Fong Dong is done gone, then full steam ahead.