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[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

"Some studies show that drinking three or more alcoholic drinks per day increases the risk of stomach and pancreatic cancers. Drinking alcohol may also increase prostate cancer risk. All alcoholic drinks—including red and white wine, beer, and liquor—are linked with cancer."

Well fuck me. I never knew that one.
You might have just saved my life, nigger.

Fuck, even drinking causes cancer.

Fuck my life.

 

[AnotherPleb]

Imagine the timeline where a Orange Man outlives two female justices.

You're going to give me priapism at this rate.

Might explain a lot, if people like Pelosi and Biden thought by now the scientists would have an immortality potion for them. No need for kids, no need to leave anything for the next generation, no need to build up political successors...

Instead they will live long enough to see it all go to shit.

When they gave him the ultimate 'Fuck you' to his executive power by reversing Chevron, that was one to many "threats to our democracy" for this villain, who is now using what little time he has left to fully subvert the courts and make them a subsidiary of the executive branch.

I'm honestly shocked that the alphabet agencies didn't murder the court for that.

If Nick Rekieta can do it, so can your husband.

Is the balldo optional or mandatory?

 

[The Ugly One]

This is my nightmare scenario, but one that is terrifyingly plausible to me.

It's not like anybody's going to show up with weapons and use force, and the court decisions have established precedent:

1. You can't sue before the fraud, because no injury has occurred
2. You can't sue after the fraud, because no remedy is possible

It seems everyone is just hoping the Democrats wouldn't dare cheat a second time because...they'd look bad? I don't get it.

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

In 2020 (holy fuck, have I been here this long?) I don't remember this place being so rah rah Trump. It's starting to feel like a 2016 /pol/ thread (but somehow not shit)
It's just weird watching it turn into a team sport again at a presidential election, I guess.

it was easier to shill against Trump in 2020 because of the scamdemic, and given that he was in the Oval Office he was easier to blame for everything going wrong. Extremely online faggot 'dissident' righties also had the excuse to attack him for not nuking Israel and for not implementing TND, because at the very least he had some semblance of political power. But nowadays Trump can't be blamed in the same way, you have headwinds of inflation and illegal immigration and foreign policy debacles weighing down the chomo joe / cacklin kamala regime, and many 'dissident' righties are realizing they weren't financially and politically targeted nearly as much during Trump's time in the Oval Office as they are now.

 

[teriyakiburns]

"Some studies show that drinking three or more alcoholic drinks per day increases the risk of stomach and pancreatic cancers. Drinking alcohol may also increase prostate cancer risk. All alcoholic drinks—including red and white wine, beer, and liquor—are linked with cancer."

Well fuck me. I never knew that one.
You might have just saved my life, nigger.

These results are likely from meta-studies, which are the main sort of "study" people use when they want to put a scientific gloss on their activist position. They examine the results of other, often entirely unrelated studies by collating all the data together and the slicing it up into smaller and smaller categories until a spurious correlation pops out.

 

[Bucephalus]

P.M. Netanyahu of Israel had a terrible and "insulting" meeting in D.C. with Kamala Harris, who also refused to preside over Congress during his speech, which is an obligation of the V.P. Rarely has such a thing happened.

So either,

1. Kamala is so repulsed by Netanyahu that she refuses to do her job as long as he's on American soil; or,
2. Kamala already thinks she's the President of the United States, so she thinks veep duties are beneath her now.

Which one is it?

These results are likely from meta-studies, which are the main sort of "study" people use when they want to put a scientific gloss on their activist position. They examine the results of other, often entirely unrelated studies by collating all the data together and the slicing it up into smaller and smaller categories until a spurious correlation pops out.

Found the alcoholic.

 

[thats pretty]

retards complaining that apparently Trump said that they only need to vote for him once in this election and then not again, they are taking it to mean that he will eNd ElEcTiOnS if he gets in. Can anyone prove any context to this I can’t find the clip or anything

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

Red NH is one of those things that always seems to be on the cusp of happening every election cycle, but it never quite does. Which is weird. Republican governor, mostly rural, very white - but it's as blue as a Smurf year after year. I think this might be the year it flips, though. Their motto is literally "live free or die," and Kamala is the antithesis of that.

Agree with everything else except Nevada being red and Maine District 2 being blue.

The problem with New Hampshire is that it's located in New England. It doesn't have as many libtards as Vermont and Massachusetts, but it has the same particular strain of libtard that Vermont and Massachusetts has in droves: sheltered-educated-white-libtard who, unlike what you see in the Deep South or the Southwest, aren't hit over their heads with the immediate consequences of racial diversity. Therefore, they won't shift as much as voters in deep blue New York City (Trump will do much better in NYC in 2024 than in 2020, even though he won't win it) who are suffering the consequences of libtardism to a greater extent than voters in New England.

New Hampshire is also seeing an influx of professional class Massholes who are center-left at the very least if not far-left. Trump in 2020 would most likely have won the set of New Hampshire voters who gave George W. Bush the state in 2000 and had it a close Kerry win in 2004, but many of those older R-leaning New England voters who were willing to vote Nixon, Ford, Reagan, HW Bush, Dole, W Bush - have died out and have been replaced by college educated millennials. Trump in 2020 would definitely have won the New Hampshire that gave HW Bush a landslide in 1988 and Reagan an even bigger landslide in 1984. But many of those voters are dead and have been replaced by college educated libtards who came of age during W Bush and Obama. You are seeing this phenomenon in upper middle class white areas all over the country - but New England is particularly white and prosperous.

Of course, generational turnover isn't the only factor - you also have the phenomenon of some of these 'old school' Republican New Englanders falling into the trap of being too influenced by their libtarded college educated colleagues into being the "Rockefeller Republicans standing up to low class insane Trumpian populism". You gotta keep in mind that these same people were proud to be R's at the same time in an era when the D's were much more popular with low class southern hicks. And their priorities in the 50s,60s,70s,80s was being strong against the Soviet Menace -- which made them vulnerable to neoconservatism in the 2000s (making them almost deliver NH to W Bush against Kerry during the Iraq War) and vulnerable to the Russia Hoax.

There are New England Republicans who helped deliver Massachusetts to Reagan in the 1984 landslide who are still registered R, voted Nikki Haley, but voted hilldawg in 2016 and chomo joe in 2020 and may vote for cacklin kamala in 2024 (but I do think Trump may have made some inroads with these types of voters given how disastrous the past four years have been).

New Hampshire was close in 2016 partly because there were disgruntled New England Bernie Bros who stayed home, voted write-in for Bernie, voted for Jill Stein, or voted for Gary Johnson (not for lolbertarian reasons but because he was a prominent 3rd party candidate who was decent for them on social issues). Many of these same voters went for chomo joe in 2020, though may vote third party again in 2024 (the trouble with cacklin kamala is that she has a better chance at winning these same voters than chomo joe did)

In a nutshell: New England has had a Rockefeller Republican legacy that is dying out due to generational turnover, and a non-negligible portion of the remaining Republicans are cuck college ed "respectability and class" Repubs who are more easily swayed against Trump. New England has seen a trend over the past three decades of an influx of new left-leaning voters who weren't old enough to vote in the 1980s when Reagan and HW Bush landslided in New England, and when W Bush had close races in 2000 to 2004. These libtards happily vote Dem without suffering consequences as harsh as, say, Californian libtards do (and they also vote for 'acceptable moderate' Republicans like Chris Sununu / Mitt Romney and sometimes outright libtarded Republicans like Phil Scott and Charlie Baker).


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addendum: Can Trump win New Hampshire in 2024? After all, it was a very close Hillary win in 2016 (fraud from college kids being bused may have pushed he over the top).

Sure! But a couple factors going against him are generational turnover since the close 2016 race in NH and more libtards moving into the state since 2016.

A couple factors going FOR him are the chomo joe / cacklin kamala regime being unpopular, and the potential for third party voting to be similarly commonplace in 2024 as it was in 2016.

NH doesn't suffer as much from bad D policies as places like the Rust Belt and the Southwest - so if NH shifts even a couple points towards Trump (which means that cacklin kamala wins NH by around ~5 points), states like Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania Nevada Arizona will shift by even MORE than a couple points, enough to flip them all to Trump. NH will also be lower priority than Minnesota this year because Minnesota is worth 10 EV whereas New Hampshire is only worth 4 EV. And winning Minnesota (hasn't gone R Presidentially since Nixon's 1972 landslide) is a more tempting prize than NH (hasn't gone R Presidentially since 2000)

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Kamala doesn't know the issues in Israel nor does she care. She gets her talking points from tiktok and whatever is cool for gen z.

So.

Yeah.

There is that.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

retards complaining that apparently Trump said that they only need to vote for him once in this election and then not again, they are taking it to mean that he will eNd ElEcTiOnS if he gets in. Can anyone prove any context to this I can’t find the clip or anything

Drumpf was asking Christians to vote for him just once and promised no more future rigging by Democrats. It is weird for him to say it the way he did but basically he was saying vote for me and all will be taken care of by next election. And then you don't have to vote anymore because things will be so good.

 

[0713]

retards complaining that apparently Trump said that they only need to vote for him once in this election and then not again, they are taking it to mean that he will eNd ElEcTiOnS if he gets in. Can anyone prove any context to this I can’t find the clip or anything

I found this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHXI-k8dD5g

 

[BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny]

Found an interesting post on 'The Donald' claiming Harris is inelligable to be swapped out on the ballot in some states even if she secured the nonination because she is filed as vice-president rather than president in states who's filing deadlines have already passed. After taking into account states with laws to prevent faithless electors and swapping out candidates, GenXPatriot (the author) stipulates she is unable to gain the electoral votes of Alabama, Michigan, North Carolina, and South Carolina.
I think everyone knows the late switcheroo was bound to cause a ton of legal woes for the Dems, but I at least expect most states would follow Ohio and just make an exception unless the Trump campaign pursues every legal contention.

Spoiler: Theory

Source

Harris can't be on ballot in 23 states - Don't let them cheat!
NOTE: I've continued to revise this to account for various scenarios and laws. It went from "impossible to win" to "Trump gets a free 50 Electoral College votes" at worst, or "Trump gets 99 free Electoral College votes" at best. These edits were after some needed critiques from fellow 'pedes. Always question everything- it's appreciated! Please check the updates to see how this count changed.
Because of state ballot access laws and Harris announcing her Presidential bid on July 21, 2024 she can't possibly win without fuckery. She will potentially be ineligible for 339 electoral college votes across 23 states.
The 2024 Democratic National Convention is scheduled to be held from August 19 to August 22, 2024, in Chicago. The DNC will do a "virtual" naming of Harris as candidate between August 1 and August 7.
Harris officially announced her candidacy for President on July 21, 2024.
If a candidate who was not on the ballot prior to the various filing deadlines is named during the convention in August, they will indeed be unable to appear on the ballots for 23 states, as the filing deadlines for these states have already passed.
Alabama: November 10, 2023 Arkansas: November 14, 2023 California: December 15, 2023 Colorado: December 11, 2023 Florida: November 30, 2023 Georgia: November 12, 2023 Illinois: December 30, 2023 Indiana: February 9, 2024 Louisiana: December 15, 2023 Maine: December 1, 2023 Michigan: December 8, 2023 Minnesota: January 2, 2024 Mississippi: January 15, 2024 New Hampshire: October 27, 2023 North Carolina: December 22, 2023 Ohio: December 20, 2023 Oklahoma: December 6, 2023 Pennsylvania: February 13, 2024 Rhode Island: December 30, 2023 South Carolina: November 10, 2023 Texas: December 11, 2023 Virginia: December 14, 2023 Washington: January 6, 2024
If a candidate who has already filed as Vice President decides to run as President, they would still be subject to the same filing deadlines for presidential candidates in each state.
Since the filing deadlines for presidential candidates in the listed 23 states have already passed, the candidate would not be able to appear on the ballot as a presidential candidate in those states.
It doesn't matter if the convention names someone, they can't file post-facto to be a candidate for a different office than the one they originally were filed under (Harris from Vice President to President).
This is for filing to be on the ballot at all. There are no coat-tails to slide into another position.
Harris can not appear on the ballot in those states, leaving her with an automatic deficit of 339 electoral college votes. Unless those states engage in retroactive fuckery of deadlines, Harris can not win.
Update/Edit 1: In the event of Electors waving their hand and saying "Well, we KNOW they meant Harris when they voted for Biden"- Electors who do not vote for the winner of the popular vote according to ballot would make them 'faithless electors' and 17 of those 23 states have laws preventing them from casting 'faithless votes'. Those states are Alabama, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, Virginia, and Washington.
That's 300 electoral votes gone.
I'm not saying the Democrats won't try this, I'm just saying there's a basis to contest such fuckery.
Update/Edit 2: Did more digging, and damn. There's leeway for replacement:
California: Typically, replacement candidates must be submitted no later than 68 days before the general election.
Colorado: Replacement candidates must be designated no later than 67 days before the general election.
Florida: Replacement candidates must be submitted within five days after the vacancy occurs if it is more than 42 days before the election.
Georgia: Generally, replacement candidates must be submitted by the party within one day of the withdrawal, if more than 45 days before the election.
Illinois: Replacement candidates must be submitted no later than 15 days before the general election.
Minnesota: Replacement candidates must be submitted by the party no later than 79 days before the general election.
New York: Replacement candidates must be submitted no later than 42 days before the general election.
Ohio: Replacement candidates must be submitted no later than 60 days before the general election.
Pennsylvania: Replacement candidates must be submitted no later than 85 days before the general election.
Texas: Replacement candidates must be submitted no later than 74 days before the general election.
Virginia: Replacement candidates must be submitted no later than 74 days before the general election.
Washington: Replacement candidates must be submitted no later than 18 days before the general election.
This means that there are still 12 states for which the filing deadline has passed AND which do not allow ballot replacement for candidates:
Alabama, Arkansas, Indiana, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Mississippi, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, and South Carolina.
That's 99 Electoral College votes. Of those 12 states only 4 have laws to prevent 'faithless electors' and those are Alabama, Michigan, North Carolina, and South Carolina.
That's 50 Electoral College votes.
So worst case scenario, barring fuckery is we absolutely have Kamala down by 50. Not my original, but I'll take it.

 

[The Hardest R]

It's not like anybody's going to show up with weapons and use force, and the court decisions have established precedent:

1. You can't sue before the fraud, because no injury has occurred
2. You can't sue after the fraud, because no remedy is possible

It seems everyone is just hoping the Democrats wouldn't dare cheat a second time because...they'd look bad? I don't get it.

Republicans had four years to get this problem fixed and with a couple of exceptions, they didn’t do shit. Likely because they figured Trump was over and done with and they can go back to losing with dignity and principles.

 

[CarlKingofDucks]

In 2020 (holy fuck, have I been here this long?) I don't remember this place being so rah rah Trump. It's starting to feel like a 2016 /pol/ thread (but somehow not shit)
It's just weird watching it turn into a team sport again at a presidential election, I guess.

Its because his competition has no redeeming qualities. Even the anti-trump people have a hard to getting excited about kamalala

 

[teriyakiburns]

Found the alcoholic.

I am not, and have never been, Kamala Harris.

 

[The Hardest R]

In 2020 (holy fuck, have I been here this long?) I don't remember this place being so rah rah Trump. It's starting to feel like a 2016 /pol/ thread (but somehow not shit)
It's just weird watching it turn into a team sport again at a presidential election, I guess.

I disagree, it very much was. We had people counting lawn signs and bumper stickers thinking Trump was going to win some 400+ EV blowout. Then a private chat thread got leaked and caused mass butthurt, that led to this thread being created.

In terms of presidential elections being team sports, I’ve been paying attention to national elections starting in 2000 and it’s been the same shit. Every election is also the most critical election of all time too, at least until the next one. I think the only time I’ve never not seen it be team sports was in 2008 after Lehman Brothers went tits up. McCain still got 45.7% of the vote though; current partisanship is never going to result in blowout elections.

 

[Coptakhenaten]

Aside for her proseuctorial record, Trump really should bring up that scrubbed govtracker article which alongside saying she was the most liberal, portrayed her actual senatorial record of being a lazy deadbeat who had no committee assignments and missed out on most meetings.

 

[likeacrackado]

The doomcucks in this thead would be far less insufferable if they actual gave any kind of solutions instead of trying to drag down everyone along with them.

I guess you guys would consider me a "doomcuck" for not calling Trump's reelection an inevitability. Solutions: become politically involved locally, vote in national elections but don't expect your side to solve most of the problems. Work on your physical and moral health. Start a family, have kids. Drink more water, spend more time outside.

 

[ibeatmywife]

I guess you guys would consider me a "doomcuck" for not calling Trump's reelection an inevitability. Solutions: become politically involved locally, vote in national elections but don't expect your side to solve most of the problems. Work on your physical and moral health. Start a family, have kids. Drink more water, spend more time outside.

It's definitely not inevitable, but some people on here are parroting the left wing media Gen Z talking point of Harris black women good will win easily, trump orange man bad will lose by alot its over for him. The reality is unless the right becomes complacent its more likely to go in their favor than the lefts last resort candidate because biden was literally stroking out on national television.

I honestly think they plan on biden dying before the election would have made alot more sense to run him since he had a much better chance of winning and then have him step down after ensuring kamala becomes president.

 

[Allanon]

Found an interesting post on 'The Donald' claiming Harris is inelligable to be swapped out on the ballot in some states even if she secured the nonination because she is filed as vice-president rather than president in states who's filing deadlines have already passed. After taking into account states with laws to prevent faithless electors and swapping out candidates, GenXPatriot (the author) stipulates she is unable to gain the electoral votes of Alabama, Michigan, North Carolina, and South Carolina.
I think everyone knows the late switcheroo was bound to cause a ton of legal woes for the Dems, but I at least expect most states would follow Ohio and just make an exception unless the Trump campaign pursues every legal contention.

spoiler alert: Kamala (or whoever ends up on the nomination, but probably Kamala) will be on the ballot in all 50 states. It doeesn't matter that they have cut off points, they'll put her on there anyway. It doesn't matter that it's breaking their laws. She'll be on them anyway. If she loses then no one will care. If she wins and Trump raises a stink they'll just slap it down and say 'don't interfere with the will of the people'.

Also man the cringe of seeing "pedes" again.