2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

Interestingly a lot of minorities in the Middle East like Assyrians, Barbers, and Kurds aren't happy with Israel's existence at all even though the Arabs, Persians, and Turks would happily kill them all in their respective countries, even more so for the Kurds, as murdering them seems to be the only common ground for Iraq, Turkey, and Iran.

I really need to brush myself up with Middle Eastern minorities. But why does a lot of countrys hate the Kurds?

 

[Autismobili Lamborghini]

Pretty good honestly. The Jews treat them like people and are sympathetic of their situation ( most of them live in the Golan region and in the north, so when Israel took the Golan a lot of them stayed, the Israelis offered them citizenship. however, the problem is that many of their families (the druze) are stuck in Syria and the Syrian government said that if anyone takes Israeli citizenship they will kill their family, so what the Israelis did was create a form of citizenship that's not technically citizenship but is basically citizenship, and the drews can at any point become Israeli citizens. they just need to fill out a form). The Druze also, are persecuted ethnic minority in the Middle East just like the Jews, so, the Jews have a lot of sympathy for them, the druze, also have a thing in their religion that promotes national service of whatever country they're part of. so a lot of them volunteer to fight in the IDF. and they're known as being very good warriors.

Is there any Samaritan groups left? What are your thoughts around them?

 

[Not Really Here]

I really need to brush myself up with Middle Eastern minorities. But why does a lot of countrys hate the Kurds?

Mountain folk with a deep love of raiding lowlanders for centuries.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Is there any Samaritan groups left? What are your thoughts around them?

Samaritans were mostly killed by the Romans. I think there are about a thousand left and they do a couple things on Mount Gerizim each year.

 

[I glow in the dark]

Is there any Samaritan groups left? What are your thoughts around them?

There's one with one like 200 people left.

Mountain folk with a deep love of raiding lowlanders for centuries.

Not really, it's a bit more complicated than that, Kurds weren't really hated (infact some of the greatest fighters who fought for Islam were Kurdish, like Saladin), it is mainly because they were always most likely to be the most politically dissenting the respective four countries they make up in.
For example, in Iraq, during the Iran-Iraq War, Saddam feared that because they would be unloyal to Pan-Arab ideas of the state and become fifth columnists for Iran because they are an Iranic and ethnic speaking peoples which culminated into the Anfal Campaign to Arabize parts of Iraqi Kurdistan.
For Turkey at least, they don't like Kurds purely for nationalistic sentiments, and until a few years back, banned the letters Q, X, and W for use because those letters were used in Kurdish but not in Turkish and Kurds are often heavily discriminated against in Turkey for 'anti-terrorism operations'
Iran has had a bit more positive history with the Kurds and even thought of making them independent, however that has kinda died due to the risk of the US having a lot of influence to an independent Kurdistan.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

The Druzes seem like cool people based on what you are saying. Shame what happened to those kids

Yeah, they're pretty cool. Their religion has some weird quirks (apparently it's shrouded in secrecy) but the people are nice. Today the Syrian militia of Druze that just now declared war on Hezbollah. this is Syria not Israel. it used to be that the druze were allowed to cross the Syrian Israeli border at will (or at least easily) despite the two countries being at war. however, when the Syrian revolution kicked off, the Israelis shut it down because of risk of isis. the feeling now is that many Syrian Druze want to become Israeli and many Israeli Druze would rather stay as Israeli.


as a quick aside, if you look into Israeli society, it's not terrible. it's not this apartheid ethno State bullshit that the Palestinians like to claim it is. Christians are highly educated and Christian schools are seen better than the Jewish schools, Muslims are allowed to do whatever they want (religion wise) and for the most part are left alone. you could be as religious or as liberal as you want. no one cares. I mean every country has its bullshit but there's a reason why Christianity is dying in the Palestinian territories and is growing in Israel (hint it's because the Palestinians keep killing them).


many Jews support the Kurds because they see the Kurdish plight as the same as the Jewish plight. however, the problem with recognizing an independent Kurdistan is that it fucks up a lot of stuff. I would not be surprised if mossad or the Israelis are aiding the Kurds in a secretive manner. but I also would not be surprised if an independent Kurdistan is established that Israel would be one of the first countries to recognize it.

 

[Not Really Here]

Not really, it's a bit more complicated than that,

Sure, the past thousand years of raiding, and conquering, didn't make other tribes hate them, it was other reasons that only happened in the last century.

It's a known fact, nobody in the ME has a long ass memory of slights predating the Roman empire.

 

[Blonrad Blurze]

Cant wait for some mouth breathing faggot with watermelons in their twitter bio to try and justify bombing children. "Erhm gaiz its DIFFERENT from when Isnotreal does it."
If I got the chance to hand these people over to the Islamic extremists I would do it in a fucking heartbeat.

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

Yeah, they're pretty cool. Their religion has some weird quirks (apparently it's shrouded in secrecy) but the people are nice. Today the Syrian militia of Druze that just now declared war on Hezbollah. this is Syria not Israel. it used to be that the druze were allowed to cross the Syrian Israeli border at will (or at least easily) despite the two countries being at war. however, when the Syrian revolution kicked off, the Israelis shut it down because of risk of isis. the feeling now is that many Syrian Druze want to become Israeli and many Israeli Druze would rather stay as Israeli.


as a quick aside, if you look into Israeli society, it's not terrible. it's not this apartheid ethno State bullshit that the Palestinians like to claim it is. Christians are highly educated and Christian schools are seen better than the Jewish schools, Muslims are allowed to do whatever they want (religion wise) and for the most part are left alone. you could be as religious or as liberal as you want. no one cares. I mean every country has its bullshit but there's a reason why Christianity is dying in the Palestinian territories and is growing in Israel (hint it's because the Palestinians keep killing them).


many Jews support the Kurds because they see the Kurdish plight as the same as the Jewish plight. however, the problem with recognizing an independent Kurdistan is that it fucks up a lot of stuff. I would not be surprised if mossad or the Israelis are eating the Kurds in a secretive manner. but I also would not be surprised if an independent Kurdistan is established that Israel would be one of the first countries to recognize it.

Any good books, you can recommend me on this?

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

Any good books, you can recommend me on this?

On the Kurds, the druze or Israel in general?

 

[I glow in the dark]

Sure, the past thousand years of raiding, and conquering, didn't make other tribes hate them, it was other reasons that only happened in the last century.

Are you Arab or Turkish perchance? The only reason you'd care about shit that happened long enough ago to not affect anyone alive today is if A.) You are personally invested in the current Kurds vs. Everyone conflict and B.) You are a member of the groups who have a current negative standing with the Kurdish population and their few governance attempts.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

Interestingly a lot of minorities in the Middle East like Assyrians, Barbers, and Kurds aren't happy with Israel's existence at all even though the Arabs, Persians, and Turks would happily kill them all in their respective countries, even more so for the Kurds, as murdering them seems to be the only common ground for Iraq, Turkey, and Iran.

That's not really true. They see Israel as being the goal. If the Jews could make their own state, then why can't they? Now what they think about the Israeli government is a different thing. But these minorities want what the Jews have, security. Anything else is pure cope and seeth.

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

The death toll has risen to eleven:

Hezbollah initially took credit for the attack, before DFEing when they realized they murdered a bunch of Druze children instead of Jewish ones:
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>Hey world. You know that rocket attack that killed a bunch of kids? That was totally us. #PraiseAllah #DeathToIsrael

You stupid inbred goatfuckers.

 

[Not Really Here]

Are you Arab or Turkish perchance? The only reason you'd care about shit that happened long enough ago to not affect anyone alive today is if A.) You are personally invested in the current Kurds vs. Everyone conflict and B.) You are a member of the groups who have a current negative standing with the Kurdish population and their few governance attempts.

No. I'm glad to learn the only possible reason to care about history is via personal involvement, that's a new one to me.

 

[I glow in the dark]

That's not really true. They see Israel as being the goal. If the Jews could make their own state, then why can't they? Now what they think about the Israeli government is a different thing. But these minorities want what the Jews have, security. Anything else is pure cope and seeth.

Fair enough, but most Berbers and Kurds don't see it that way because they are Muslims who fell for the Ummah™ meme.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

Fair enough, but most Berbers and Kurds don't see it that way because they are Muslims who fell for the Ummah™ meme.

I can't speak for berbers, but very funny thing, if you go to the Kurdish subreddit every once in awhile you'll find dipshit Arabs or their Boot liquors posting about " what do you think of the Israelis? isn't it terrible what they're doing to the Palestinians" and the responses generally are " The Palestinians supported Saddam who tried to kill us so we don't give a fuck about any of this". or they'll say "that's terrible but anyway"

 

[mindlessobserver]

IDF chief promising "significant reaction".

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-812127

 

[Orc-Chud]

Sure, the past thousand years of raiding, and conquering, didn't make other tribes hate them, it was other reasons that only happened in the last century.

It's a known fact, nobody in the ME has a long ass memory of slights predating the Roman empire.

the whole Muslim-Jew beef is from the last century. Jews and Muslims were buddy buddy for over a thousand years, Jews were governors and viziers in Muslim empires like Al-Andalus. Muslims didn’t hate them untill israel happened.

 

[Black Spruce]

Specifically targetting civilians in bombings has been a military tactic employed by so many nations all around the world for so long that I'm surprised people are still shocked when it happens.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

the whole Muslim-Jew beef is from the last century. Jews and Muslims were buddy buddy for over a thousand years, Jews were governors and viziers in Muslim empires like Al-Andalus. Muslims didn’t hate them untill israel happened.

It's almost like they don't like it when they're not in control...