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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Apustajan apustaja]

I hate Tommy Robinson. Mostly because my wife thinks he's hot.

 

[Dyn]

All british people should be arrested for terrorim for speaking in those shit accents.

 

[ERROR_ENTRY]

I hate Tommy Robinson. Mostly because my wife thinks he's hot.

Tell her he's only 5'6.

 

[Obstacle]

So because I think Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (yes, that's his real name) is a piece of shit I'm 'pro gang rape'? No... I just think that criminals like him who have a history of grifting deserve to have the book thrown at them when they knowingly and repeatedly break the law. He's no friend of the working class or any other group, he only cares about himself (and getting paid to suck off the Israeli government).

Yes, dear, we know his name is STEPHEN YAXLEY LENNON, you gang-rape apologists keep repeating it like a curse.
And frankly, I don't give two fucks about the Israeli government; they're a bunch of Kikes, what do you expect?
I'd join hands with the devil himself to put fire to the last Qur'an.
Jews can be dealt with non-violently, and by shunning their businesses, and tracking their investments.
Muslims can only be dealt with by the sword.
They are here to practice "Manifest Destiny" in curly slippers.
We already live in a Jewish system.
Living in a Muslim system is probably the only thing that would be worse.

 

[Howslans]

All british people should be arrested for terrorim for speaking in those shit accents.

Lol you are hardly one to talk don’t you have a Aussie accent?

 

[Spud]

Jews can be dealt with non-violently, and by shunning their businesses, and tracking their investments.

I remember a guy who did this when he became his countries leader. Didn't really work out for him in the end.

 

[Dyn]

Lol you are hardly one to talk don’t you have a Aussie accent?

Australian accents are enjoyable and make women all over the world think you're more handsome than you actually are.

 

[Obstacle]

I remember a guy who did this when he became his countries leader. Didn't really work out for him in the end.

In the digital age, I reckon it's doable.
Just put chips in all the shysters.

 

[2 Faces 2 Colours]

I hate Tommy Robinson. Mostly because my wife thinks he's hot.

Destiny Moment.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

INB4 we get flooded with yanks telling us how our country works.

Tommy Robinson is made up to be the devil by the left and a hero by the right. He's neither, he's just 'The White Van Man' (hopefully people will understand that reference from The Sun). He's just an aggregate of white, working-class, middle-aged men. You go to a building site up north and 99% of the workers will have those views.

Isn't that the fucking point though? You've at least heard of Tommy Robinson, but no one ever hears from these 99%. They might have the same views, but do they risk exposing themselves like this standing up for what they believe? They might as well not exist, those in power remain largely uncontested it seems.

 

[GratsTheat783]

I mentioned the idea to someone the other day that we should adopt the second amendment (the right to bear arms) in the UK when we were talking about the recent riots and they were very opposed to it.

Spoiler: The discussion

Their points were:

• The riots would've been a lot worse if people had a right to own a gun. - My response was that despite guns being common, I've not heard of any riots in the US where they started marching and shooting up the area.
• We already have a bad enough problem with knife crime, adding guns to that would increase the crime rate a lot more.
• Only those with a legitimate reason to need a gun, like police officers, should be allowed to use them. - I responded that the authorities have failed us a lot recently.
• I said one reason behind the second amendment was that people should be able to own a gun for if the government becomes tyrannical. - They said it's a good idea for when a country is in it's founding stage, but hasn't worked out long-term, citing school shootings and gun crime. - I responded saying America is a bigger country with more population. I wasn't very clear, what I meant was that it could be more reported in America because it's a bigger country with more people (a bigger country is obviously going to have higher numbers of crime than a smaller one), not necessarily because there's actually more percentage-wise (Although, it would be safe to assume there's more percentage wise due to guns being more common. You'd have to compare it to UK knife crime in schools for a fairer comparison)
• Owning a gun shouldn't be a right. Unlike America, we make people have to prove they are responsible enough to actually own a gun. - That actually makes sense, you don't want some drooling retard walking about in public with a gun. Although I feel like the gun laws are a bit ridiculous in this country.(you can't have your gun loaded in the house while you're not using it and you need to keep the gun and the ammo locked in 2 separate safes in separate rooms).
• Most people don't like the idea of killing someone and wouldn't want to use their guns, even in an emergency - My response was that people should be tempered (hardened probably would have been a better word), able and wiling to defend themselves. Most people who've killed don't like killing, but sometimes it's necessary to defend yourself and what you have and one should be ready in case the need arises.

Also, the recent riot I saw in Leeds, I noticed most of the people from the footage I saw were brown, but I got a weird look when I said this. They told me that wasn't true and that most of the rioters were white. Was I wrong there?

Do you think adopting the second amendment in the UK would be a good idea?

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Never mind England entire; we only wish London's accents were London accents. Instead, your capital city and one of the capital cities of the European patrimoine is full of hideous foul-smelling Third-World-savage filth.

If only we could easily hear London accents in London.

The majority of people outside of London would be happy is London was cut off from England and sent to France.

Isn't that the fucking point though? You've at least heard of Tommy Robinson, but no one ever hears from these 99%. They might have the same views, but do they risk exposing themselves like this standing up for what they believe? They might as well not exist, those in power remain largely uncontested it seems.

Fair point. The bread and circuses stop them from rioting. The ruling class will remain uncontested as long as they serve out rations.

 

[Beautiful Border]

Do you think adopting the second amendment in the UK would be a good idea?

No. I think it makes sense to treat guns like cars, where you have to show some level of proficiency and responsibility before being allowed to own one. The big difference I would make is that there should be less limits on what types of guns you are allowed to own if you hold a firearms certificate. If you have legally demonstrated you can be trusted with a bolt-action rifle or a pump-action shotgun then I see no reason why you can't also be trusted with a semi-automatic. I would also reverse the ban on handguns for the same reason (they were banned due to a kneejerk response to a single incident in 1996, which was caused by the police failing to act after flags had been raised).

Alternatively I would support a system like in Switzerland, where gun ownership is seen as a civic responsibility but without being fetishised. Our sense of social cohesion is completely shattered though so I don't really see this working here, unfortunately.

 

[AngoryDorf]

Seeing the nightmare that the UK has become makes me terribly sad. It's like seeing Rome collapse, but in real time.

At least, recently a british friend of mine went: "Maybe we shouldnt import thousand of savages per year, curious!". He was pretty mild on this subject not too long ago, so this gives me some hope for the future of the UK.

 

[Troonos]

Null should make the site embed the documentary in every single reply in this thread, just to piss off the Bri'ish government.

 

[SBG]

I see the Americans have found the thread again, whatever happened to that kid over there that got arrested for leaving tyre marks on a pride crossing by the by?

I remember one had to write an essay.

 

[S3y88]

This guys sucks up to every brown person under the sun as long as they wave the UK flag lol

 

[Poonocchio]

Not sure why people argue USA vs UK/Europe when the entire Western world is a fucking mess in many, many ways, some similar some differences, all turning into cess pits overrun by degenerates and evil.

 

[Amin Yasister]

I remember there were two kids arrested for skidding their e-scooters on a rainbow flag painted on the road leaving tyre marks. Kids. Not late teens. Kids.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13513907/amp/washington-spokane-teens-jail-lgbtq-rainbow-mural-vandalism.html

Likewise a bloke in a pick up burning out the rear tyres on a rainbow flag whilst turning at an intersection.

https://youtu.be/19z3o97dBq4?si=JCeZ1cgtrrXgyAsz

Just googled videos of such events, and there are lots of them.

 

[Hazel Motes]

I think Washington should just finish the American Revolution and brings some freedom to cuck island, they may have Oil in the North Sea as well. At this point you guys would be treated as liberators.

The downside is that you will need to add a few more stars to the flag, also annex Canada while you are at it.

English foreign policy is made in Washington DC. Whilst small northern towns slowly die off, and not due to immigration, though the third worlders will soon replace the dying population, our politicians pretend there is such a thing as a 'Global Britain' who can fix the world's problems and has a say in the big events. Some politicians, usually Thatcherite liberals, supported Brexit because it would supposedly mean we could now ‘finally’ take on the world, meanwhile the rest of us voted to leave to fix our cultural problems. Anyone aware of the Suez crisis should realise that Global Britain is a fantasy and our 'successes' in the two wars came at the cost of our global influence. As CS Lewis wrote, “only foreigners and politicians talk about ‘Britain’.” It is why the fictious James Bond is so popular; he is the desire of some for a return of British prominence. These same people tend to find England dull and too simple to inspire any affection. But many English people do not want endless wars, they want a future for their grandchildren. They want a police force that is a member of the citizenry and not an arm of the state. They want a country not in debt and spending away its savings on useless political extravagances like HS2. They wish for a court system that protects the innocent. They want our paternal instincts not used at the cost of political liberty. These are not hard policies to implement, for England has had them in the past. We even excelled in some areas.

A cheap wish for glory comes at the cost of fixing present problems and ironically destroys any hope for the future. It is as Chesterton said:

Touching these English colonies, I do not wish to be misunderstood. I do not say of them or of America that they have not a future, or that they will not be great nations. I merely deny the whole established modern expression about them. I deny that they are "destined" to a future. I deny that they are "destined" to be great nations. I deny (of course) that any human thing is destined to be anything. All the absurd physical metaphors, such as youth and age, living and dying, are, when applied to nations, but pseudo-scientific attempts to conceal from men the awful liberty of their lonely souls.

I despise this false hope in some imagined utopia of the mind (or the reverse: the hope for destruction). I love America and England because its people and its lands are instinctively great. Winning a war against a faraway country has nothing to do with it. Their achievements are not seen in false prophecies, but in its working people; its wisdom lies not in empires but in our shared cultural lore.

It is like the person who cries about all the world’s problems whilst the issues next to him, the issues he can fix, barely register to him. Those problems, like the ones Robinson complains of, attract too much controversy and the working classes, the people most affected by sub-standard education and the collapse of families, are too ugly, too curt in their desires and needs, and far too real to make one’s virtuous deeds look fashionable to the intelligentsia. Dickens in Bleak House dubbed this Telescopic Philanthropy, and it remains a problem in English society. The English ruling classes always ignores its poor, but the struggle for an identity has given us the best work of Cobbett, Wordsworth, and Orwell. Friction, between classes and between nations, is the way to bring growth and strength to an individual.



England is my home, my heart, and my love. No matter how shitty life becomes, and it will become worse, England remains the home to Newton and Darwin, Shakespeare and Milton, Newman and Wesley, and Chaucer, the man who encompasses all traits of the English character. And my countryside is as sublime as my first memories of it can recall. They cannot change that, thankfully. I can hate our ruling classes and our suicidal policies, but England, never.

We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.

- TS Eliot