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I can respect that. If anyone's earned the right to be a 2nd Amendment absolutist, it's Saint Kyle.


One of my frustrations with Trump is that he has the opportunity to build out a new ideological activist coalition, but he doesn't. He's got his agenda, he's got generic nationalism, and he's got Trumpism. He could be doing what the Dems do: solidify support from a bunch of activist groups, and let them run wild with their agenda while he and the Party provide support from the top. There was a bit of that during the start of his Administration, but I view that almost as accident as he scrambled to get any Republican into power after 8 years of Obama.

To be fair to Trump, he has to spend way more time than any other candidate scrapping for support and fighting every institution out there, including his own Party's machine. When you get impeached twice, raided by feds, indicted a thousand times in half a dozen states, and have to argue Civil War-era definitions of treason just to get your name on a ballot, it's hard to find time for ideological wonk networking.
While it's a fair point, I think that because of your own points that you mentioned it's something that can only be viewed as something he should get done this administration.

I'm curious to see also if Vance will be active in that as well, which Vance will need to do to make sure that he shows that he's continuing Trump's changes to the Republican party.
 
How bad was Bush hate? I was a kid during his administration and a teen through most of Obama's administration. I remember trump getting elected months after I graduated hugh school. Only thing I remember bush for was family guy gags about him. I remember Obama worship.
It wasn't as bad as Trump, but it was very reminiscent of that.

The Obama worship was fucking insane. I remember asking people simple questions about Obama, like "what does he mean by hope and change?" and the response was to call me a white supremacist. Fun stuff.
 
Looking at WSJ it’s not just the American market that’s flopping. Asia and Europe are tanking too with inflation rising higher than July. Bank of England just cut their rates for the first time in 4 years which was last during the global pandemic.

It could be the big one, it feels very 08
It's not, it went down because of the weak employment report that just came in. It will go up if they cut rates in September. Until the spending is cut the Market won't crash because it's being propped up with printed money. That's how we got out of the 08 crash and the Feds never stopped printing after that.
 
I think what benefits TPTB the most is to set the world on fire. They have no qualms about a global reset.
And that would be the global disaster that would need to happen to distract people from the horror show that is the testosterone infected field of women's sports, so it would be opportunistic to use if they want to brush the incident under the rug to force eyes on a new issue.

I was thinking a second covid pandemic in that post, my lack of foresight didn't consider World War 3. What a really fascinating and scary situation this is.
 
It's not, it went down because of the weak employment report that just came in. It will go up if they cut rates in September. Until the spending is cut the Market won't crash because it's being propped up with printed money. That's how we got out of the 08 crash and the Feds never stopped printing after that.
But mein füher, our printers… zey are already at maximum capacity. We have been printing for 4 years.
 
Try 16 years and counting. . . Inflation be damned.
Correct me if I’m wrong. But I don’t think printing more money will last much longer. The fed needs to play a new currency game because bajillions of dollars won’t do much if employment falls to 0. They can do another bailout but it’ll hurt the common people. The money will go to Big Tech and the housing market to inflate this bubble even more. What good is AI and building empty houses if nobody is able to afford them?

I’m all in on doomerism. Let it burn.
 
I remember non-stop attacks on Bush all day on the media. Like Trump they simultaneously maligned him as both some Hitler-tier tyrant who wanted Christian nationalism and a complete buffoon who couldn't tell his left hand from his right.
The funniest shit was when McCain ran against Obama. McCain the the media’s favourite, he frequently voted with the democrats despite being a republican and got ALLLL the fawning coverage from that, that daring Maverick who stood against the sheer Evil Hitler McHitlerson Bush the Destroyer.

Then he ran against Obama.

Suddenly Bush was the brave diplomat, the not-so-bad, he meant well enough-idiot, and McCain was the evil warmongering villain who probably ate babies in Vietnam. It was rather hilarious at the time because you could tell McCain had no idea what to do now his media buddies deserted him.
 
Correct me if I’m wrong. But I don’t think printing more money will last much longer. The fed needs to play a new currency game because bajillions of dollars won’t do much if employment falls to 0. They can do another bailout but it’ll hurt the common people. The money will go to Big Tech and the housing market to inflate this bubble even more. What good is AI and building empty houses if nobody is able to afford them?

I’m all in on doomerism. Let it burn.
Don't forget how much money was also spent on COVID-19 bailouts. Something like $700 billion was used by the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 for the Great Recession, the 2020 Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (CARES) had $2.2 trillion attached to it.
 
It wasn't as bad as Trump, but it was very reminiscent of that.

The Obama worship was fucking insane. I remember asking people simple questions about Obama, like "what does he mean by hope and change?" and the response was to call me a white supremacist. Fun stuff.

November 4th 2008
Obama: "I am totally against homosexual marriage. Marriage can only be between a man and a woman."

January 21st 2009
Obama: "I've changed my mind. I'm all for homosexual marriage and it should be legalized as quickly as possible!"
 
Anyone expecting 2008 calamity is going to be solely disappointed.
Agreed, it’ll be much worse. If the bottom drops out it won’t just be sulking bankers watching the stock ticker all disheveled. The streets will be painted in a fresh red coating. People forget but there was a short period in 08-09 where people were assaulting bankers and punching them in the face randomly in public.
 
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