AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

[Hff201]

As an aside, my main problem with AI art at the moment is how fast one can generate images and post them online. This wouldn't be a bad thing if they didn't fucking clog up "most recent" filters on image posting sites when I want to see art or memes.

This is an unfortunate inevitability of the tools being easily available now, there's very little in the way of quality control. It kind of invalidates the seething about the tools putting humans out of work since people who invest their time into learning how to use them effectively and then doing manual cleanup after the fact will be able to produce better pieces than the hundreds of randos who just type a prompt in and post whatever it spits out.

I feel like too many people, in both pro-AI and anti-AI camps, see generative AI as an all-or-nothing thing, when the true potential for AI will be incorporating it into a production workflow for convenience. Photoshop already supports simple AI prompts like "remove the text" or "extend the background to the right" which removes minor nuisances and busywork to streamline the process. If you try to make generative AI do your entire job for you then you're going to have problems, but stubbornly refusing to engage with it at all is a good way to get left behind.

 

[jartycuck]

interesting thread, updooted so fellow kiwifarmers can contribute to your thread project

 

[Miss Violet Beauregarde]

Very cool thread.
Fucking updoot it to the skies.
Hope other farmers can see this thread and contribute to it.

And now, some content tax:

I forgot Ergojosh is already posted here

 

[Inco G. Nito]

This is an unfortunate inevitability of the tools being easily available now, there's very little in the way of quality control. It kind of invalidates the seething about the tools putting humans out of work since people who invest their time into learning how to use them effectively and then doing manual cleanup after the fact will be able to produce better pieces than the hundreds of randos who just type a prompt in and post whatever it spits out.

I feel like too many people, in both pro-AI and anti-AI camps, see generative AI as an all-or-nothing thing, when the true potential for AI will be incorporating it into a production workflow for convenience.

Just a natural consequence of the times we live in and the contemporary nature of AI itself. It's new, it's shiny, it's yet to become a norm and settle into its rightful niche. It's a technological marvel for sure. But the AI bubble is coming and soon the fad of stuffing AI into everything will pass. AI does not supersede anything, it only opens up new possibilities. State machines do one thing consistently and correctly, AI offers an adaptable solution to a complicated problems in a fluid world. Automated problem solving, basically. People thought the printing press was going to bring about the end of the world way back when, you know.
Edit: @gagabobo1997 Excellent OP. Forgot to mention that.

 

[gagabobo1997]

Edit: @gagabobo1997 Excellent OP. Forgot to mention that.

Thanks, @The Thinking Abacus and @Runch did great work too though!
I'm glad the thread has had such good reception. I hope it will get many more eyes on these communities and produce lots of content.

And for a small collection of X seethe i've collected for my tax:

animal breeding thread crossover perhaps?

imagine living your life paranoid that everything you enjoy might actually be made by the demonic robots

billions of aibros must die


seems like a harsh reaction to a video of spaghetti people dancing

 

[Inco G. Nito]

(Autists seething)

It brings a tear to my eye. Watching retards screech over a battle they literally cannot win lmao. Also lmao at the effective accelerationists. I always hated athiest faggots that peddle their religion, masquerading it as science. Science is the study of the material world. Science cannot tell you anything about post-material concepts. Just proof that theism will never go away. Or people who claim to understand consciousness (not the state of being awake, I mean qualia), or claim we know literally anything about it. With what our currently primitive AIs are capable of without 'consciousness', I see no reason why even animals have to be conscious to explain their behaviors, feats and capabilities. No animals are inventing new things or expressing behaviors outside of pre-existing stimulus they are exposed to. The only reason consciousness is even a concept being discussed is because everyone has it, knows they have it, and yet have no way to communicate what it is or properly explain it beyond the mutual understanding of it. In a world of objective realities, consciousness is the only truly subjective thing that exists, and amusingly is a prerequisite to experiencing the objective world in the first place. When you consider your brain, senses, and understandings can be fallible, consciousness becomes the only truly objective thing you are subjectively sure of. Which is to say: who fucking cares lmao we're all going to die anyways just enjoy life

 

[Jeff Q. Anime]

jerkin off to AI on a daily basis tbh fam

 

[Diesel Boogaloo]

EVERY "Generate Image" BUTTON YOU PRESS MAKES A LOW-INCOME BLXCK TRXNS ARTIST IN GAME DESIGN TO BE FIRED NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Spunt]

Great thread. You may need to re-archive some of those Reddit links, some of them are from subs that block VPNs and the archive just gives the standard Reddit block notification rather than the article.

 

[Synthetic Smug]

Great OP! Personally I think AI is a fantastic tool to aid artists, and if it gets really good at animation grunt work like tweening we can see a new golden age for 2d animation as it becomes more practical for smaller/indy studios. As a summer project I am dipping my toes into pixel art and AI imgen has been a very handy tool for brainstorming, creating references, and even templates if it is really good.

Likewise I think this is a very interesting tool for artists at the polish stage especially for taking sketches to render. I'd be a little surprised if manual cleanup is fully replaced by inpainting. There are technical use cases that are niche enough it would be power leveling to discuss.
I see most of the outrage about AI art coming from either third rate furry and anime style artists who need someone to blame for their own bad choices, or from arrogant professionals who are realizing they spent their youth polishing capeshit turds and such.

 

[JesusChristDenton]

I've posted these images before but your mention of how ghoulish Anti-AIfags can be made me remember it.
You think them fantasizing about wanting to psychotically torture and kill people who even remotely use AI art was bad enough? Apparently there seem to be cases of them straight up gangstalking people who use it.

Even if the victim of this presents a perfectly valid excuse for using AI art, I doubt it will deter these lunatics.

 

[John Shedletsky]

Oh boy, the hot button issue everyone's sick of hearing about!
I know this is a work in progress, but it would be fairly useful if there was the inclusion of Voice AI too.

Not too long ago (approx. last year), an artist by the name of "Eagan Tilghman" uploaded a fun little animation where the Scooby Doo gang ends up in Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria. It's supposed to be reminiscent of the classic cartoons. But because Tilghman couldn't find any actors who were willing to settle for less, he decided to use Voice A.I. to fill in the blanks. Twitter did NOT like that. And in particular, voice actor Grey DeLisle proclaimed that they would intentionally spread the word of Tilghman's use of AI, to make sure that he never works with another voice actor ever again.

She was also retarded enough to spend a fuckton of money on A.I. art, lol.

Ironically enough, despite the video being redubbed later, it never reached the same view count as the original. So much for all that huffing and puffing about A.I., only to not support the artist for making the change!



This is just based on vague memory, but the spergery behind voice A.I. is also worthy of being included in the OP. It's fascinating how hectic and volatile people are over this. I get the concerns, but it's also just fucking retarded to get mad at some poor schmuck with no money using tools that are readily available to them.

 

[Pierre D'Olnique]

People who are the most assmad about AI art always turn out to be talentless "13 | free palpatine | she/her | BuildLargeMansions | ACAB | autistic |" hacks. I wonder why that is.

 

[Username Cannot Be Blank]

Anything that makes Xitter artists mad is a net positive IMO

 

[InfiniteGodmode]

People who are the most assmad about AI art always turn out to be talentless "13 | free palpatine | she/her | BuildLargeMansions | ACAB | autistic |" hacks. I wonder why that is.

They're mad that they're getting outshined by literal robots, LOL!

What's funny about these faggots complaining about how AI art having no soul is that the same could be said about that gobbled Tumblr gayshit they call "art".

 

[Miss Violet Beauregarde]

What's funny about these faggots complaining about how AI art having no soul is that the same could be said about that gobbled Tumblr gayshit they call "art".

In a matter of speaking, ai can never recreate the absolutely brainrotting autism of the trans founding father image.

 

[NoReturn]

Great job, OP!

 

[AMHOLIO]

What's funny about these faggots complaining about how AI art having no soul is that the same could be said about that gobbled Tumblr gayshit they call "art".

I'm distracted by the fact the anime girls look like they're both driving somehow. Otherwise the funny stupidity of I MET GOD AND SHE'S BLACK Jefferson can not be topped by AI, I agree.

 

[Irregardless]

I don't think I can take these people any less seriously. Still, for regular people who are less terminally online, I think you lose credibility with them when everything you're "against" seems to evoke the same "These are the worst people, and they should all be violently murdered" response. Idk, just comes off insincere when you have the same negative reaction to shitty AI art as you do black people being dying from "muh racism".

Take me for example. Personally, I get way more upset about pedophiles gloating and publicizing their interactions with children than I do when I see some group of niggers loot a Gucci store in California. Idk, maybe I'm just fucking retarded.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Idk, just comes off insincere when you have the same negative reaction to shitty AI art as you do black people being dying from "muh racism".

The funny part is that at least half of them probably reacted to racism less violently than AI art. Guess we know where their priorities lie.