US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

She already did bail on the Fox News debate. She said she won't attend like two days ago and basically just said, "Trump is scared" and ran away like the pussy faggot she is.

What a bitch.

OTOH, Trump's Achilles heal is incompetence. He hates it and has no time for it. Will he be able to keep his cool on stage while kamala fucks everything up and makes the office of pres look like a joke? He will be slammed in the media for attacking black/indian woman.

 

[Jade Philosophies]

I see what you're getting at and I gotchu fam:
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One of these is Chelsea Clinton, the other is Web Hubble's acknowledged daughter.

 

[northstar747]

@Jet Fuel Johnny or any other kiwi that understand this shit better than me

 

[Mike Sneedsby]

Okay, I'm not a lawyer, but wouldn't that have already been tried? "create an entirely new legal status do handle everything a marriage contract already handles" just sounds like a massive fucking bureaucratic nightmare saying it out loud, compared to just letting them use the already existing framework.

They did exist already (and still exist in some places). They're called civil unions and they weren't difficult to legislate because in letter and intent all it is is "all the legal protections and benefits of marriage but for fags".

And again, it's not that trivial. It can be an issue of "Oh fuck, my husband is in the hospital and I can't even see them", or " Oh shit, how do I get my other half on the will in the event I die and the house we spent all this money on it up in the air."

How many hospitals ask to see a marriage certificate before they let spouses in? That is a question of societal acceptance, not the letter of the law.

Also, have you ever written a will? The way you write someone into your will is to write them into your will. I think you're thinking of dying intestate (which is resolved by writing a will).

I am not taking a pro-degeneracy stance here. I just don't think every gay, dyke and troon is automatically one. And I think if you do, I don't see your views getting any traction.

"I'm not pro-degeneracy, I just define 'degeneracy' in a way that excludes behavior everyone considered to be the dictionary definition thereof until forty years ago"! Okay bro.

They should be held to a moral standard though, and if 90% or 100% of them fail that standard, so be it. Let them be ostracised.

And that moral standard was, and should still be, "not engaging in unnatural sex acts with the same sex" and "not dressing up as the opposite sex for sexual gratification".

I cannot divine what you conceive of as non-degenerate faggotry or crossdressing, but people who have healthy sexualities don't engage in deeply aberrant behaviors like that.

And I am also saying you should learn from it. Focus in on the fucked up shit that happens at pride, and the underage troon shit going on. You will probably find yourself winning a lot more battles than trying to get gay marriage repealed.

You don't win battles by fleeing from your position the moment you see the enemy approaching and sprinting to the nearest hill behind you. Compare fag "rights" to abortion.

"Fags cannot marry" is an eminently sensible position, being as it was the only position for the rest of human history, and there is no reason to believe that it will not resume being the only rational stance on the issue in the long term outside of dogmatic progressivism.

 

[STARS158]

Internet hack, if you ever hear Alex Jones talk about Iran/Russia/China, he's probably talking about the Jews

 

[FrancineCansMcGee]

@Jet Fuel Johnny or any other kiwi that understand this shit better than me

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Remember the scene in Starship Troopers where Rico washes out but then the war starts and so he returns and they pretend they never saw the paperwork? Walz is no Rico.

 

[Jade Philosophies]

I wasn't? That certainly wasn't the point I was trying to make. I just noticed that you often boil definitions down to such a ridiculous degree as to remove the utility of discernment between ideas. Like referring to everything as oligarchies, or having strange nonsequiturs about political parties and the SDLC.

I'm not outright disagreeing with a lot of the arguments that occasionally make it through, I just feel like every disagreement finds itself at such a debate of terms that you'll miss the forest for the trees.

I said that in a democracy there would be no political parties and Individualism Incarnate said "So in your democracy there's no freedom of association? People won't group together and push policies based on shared interests?" and I was pointing out that those groups are doing that yet they're not political parties.

 

[ATI Escapee]

Maybe instead of free pizza this time they offered free cans of Whiskas?

no respectable cat lover would feed their cats Whiskas

 

[Betonhaus]

no respectable cat lover would feed their cats Whiskas

I can see a black guy call his cat "my Whiskas"

 

[Jade Philosophies]

Vance and Trump work in reverse of normal politicians and it breaks the media and opponents brains. Instead of disseminating a message that is repeated people tweet or "truth" things at him and he amplifies the message of his people. His policies are whatever would make the most sense mixed with what people tell him they want. His opposition research and massaging are done for free via a massive open source network.

That's being democratic or "populist" as detractors like to say and bizarrely use as a slur. Although many seem to be confusing populism with popularism. They are incredibly similar but popularism is about the person or party. They say things to appeal to the masses but don't necessarily mean them. It's just about trying to become popular, regardless of what you actually intend to do. So most politicians are just popularists. Whereas with populism they say things that appeal to the masses based on what the masses say they want and are supposed to follow through, or at least try.

 

[Jade Philosophies]

There were (and I would argue, still are,) some compelling reasons for gay marriage

Irregardless of all other arguments for and against "gay marriage" the one that goes against it the most, that isn't scientific or political or religious, is that the definition of marriage has always been the union of a man and a woman in a relationship. Changing the definition of such an ancient word (or English language version of whatever the original word for marriage was if it wasn't marriage) for political reasons is absolutely wrong.
Edit: Sorry for the double post. There were 23 minutes between posts, usually there are at least a few other posts in that time!

 

[BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny]

People hailing Trump's 'no tax on tips' as some great idea. Meanwhile I'm over here in Europe thinking - Great! USA's 'we don't pay our staff' tipping culture is going to get even more firmly entrenched.

Being payed primarily via tips enables greater economic flexibility and makes an employee less dependent on a specific employer. Tipping means staff is payed directly by the customer for their service rather than through their employer. They efficiently get the money right away without needing to wait for the end of a pay period for most of their payment. It's uncommon for a tipped worker to make less than a wagged worker, because it's easier for them to switch jobs to work at places that have better business and more lucrative tips than it is for a waged worker to try and get a job with a higher wage. Since tipped employees have a lower minimum wage, companies have less costs and can lower prices to offer better deals and get more customers (who also offer more tips). Get it through your head— tip payment rather than wage payment is a symbiotic relationship that helps employees and companies make more money than they otherwise would, and customers pay less for better services than they would otherwise get.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

@Jet Fuel Johnny or any other kiwi that understand this shit better than me

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Vote Vets is a bunch of lying faggots.

He knew they were going to deploy. He broke a contract and an agreement to run like a bitch. Yes, it was fully staffed, because they replaced him.

He did NOT retire as a CSM, he retired as a Master Sergeant.

He's just plain a coward.

 

[Overly Serious]

lthough many seem to be confusing populism with popularism

Irregardless

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Also uses "Irregardless".

 

[lion of panjshir]

This is bullshit. Men decided to punish women for not bending over and not wanting to go back to the "old deal" ie back to marriage after they spend more than 2 decades threating with " you are going to die alone" and complaining about " ball and chain" . You decided to repeal abortion rights and openly talk about "repealing the 19th " and everytime when a woman get brutally assuallted and murdered you men would gloat about "you voted for this" . I am from the other continent and if I had to deal with your spiteful bs I would personally vote for importing infinity niggers just to have the pleasure to watch your asses curbstomped on liveleak or whatever is the newest iteration of it. Because you are such shameless pieces of shit that want to rub shit in their faces I would personally drag you to the pits of hell as final fuck you. As of right now you give your women option between islamic caliphate and christian version of it . They might as well get the islamic with the added bonus of your asses being put down behind the shed by the huns Niggers .

I just sent unsolicited dick pics to eight women then threatened suicide until they told me it was big, because of this post. Look at what you made me do.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

In emphatic terms, -yes-. I know for a fact that at least the mid level analysts frequent the site and have accounts here. Almost every major politician has either an account or, more likely, their lead analyst does. Though this isn't unique to the Farms, anywhere that has an account barrier of entry would. Though most do not and they simply bookmark specific places.



Editing it afterwards didn't ping me.

Dang wish they'd ask me to do some work for them, I'm out here handing these whitepills out for free like a simp

 

[Nuclear Poisoning]

This is just objectively false. He went to that black journalist rally or whatever the fuck it was while Harris chickened the fuck out. They used his exchange with blue suit bitch as a talking point for like five days.

Yeah that is mentioned a couple paragraphs above in the same article:

When Trump appeared last month in an interview format before the National Association of Black Journalists, his aides almost certainly didn’t want the main headline to be about their candidate suggesting Harris had misled voters about her race.

They're twisting themselves up so much to rationalize Harris' recent absence that they are now conceding that the press may be treating Trump unfairly by focusing entirely on one minor comment completely out of context.

That AP article is pretty terrifying in how they have to spell out something that should be obvious, i.e. that the press is supposed to put candidates on the spot and ask uncomfortable questions (which is not the same as purposely misinterpreting a candidates' words). That's not some minor role journalists have, it's the most important part of their job.

 

[Jade Philosophies]

I think the democrats are losing the gays of all people. What is happening?

A lot of fags hate trannies.

Plain stealing Trump's no taxes on tips is so amateurish and dumb

The way to do it is to present a BIGGERER and BETTERER plan that includes no taxes on tips

But that would require Kumala and Frens awkshoolly come up with even the broad strokes of a big plan, which they have the greatest desire to not do on any subject

Copying Trump and nothing else makes it look like he's leading her around by the nose like the retard she is

Trump just needs to say at every opportunity that his policies are so good the Democrats steal them to try to gain more votes. As well as what has already been mentioned about why haven't the Democrats done it already.

Dees niggas and some 20 year old interns:
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(Same ones that will actually run Kamala's administration)

Did you notice that in the prequels 1 race is in control of, or at least has the monopoly on, the galaxy's banking? The IGBC, the InterGalactic Banking Clan. A group of Muuns. What's George Lucas trying to say here?

no respectable cat lover would feed their cats Whiskas

I didn't know that. But then again Kamala supporters aren't respectable.

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Also uses "Irregardless".

The MSM uses the word "populism" all the time yet this New York Times article talks about popularism and even contrasts it to Trump (who the MSM often calls a populist). It says the Democrats need to be more popularist to make them more popular.
https://archive.is/8pKQD

Shor’s example speaks to the hardest questions raised by popularism. “Talk about your most popular, most energizing ideas” isn’t controversial advice. The real disagreements come on the ideas that don’t poll so well. There are a lot of issues that Democrats want to talk about that Shor thinks they’d be better off not talking about.

Shor’s critics argue that he’s too focused on the popularity of what Democrats say, rather than the enthusiasm it can unleash. When pressed, Podhorzer called this theory “viralism” and pointed to Trump as an example of what it can see that popularism cannot. “A lot of things Trump did were grossly unpopular but got him enormous turnout and support from the evangelical community,” Podhorzer said.

 

[Puff]

I just don't think every gay, dyke and troon is automatically one

Actually, they're degenerates definitionally.
And with the exception of the dykes, they're all degenerates in fact as well. Wanting to shove a man's penis into your asshole (or yours into his) makes you a degenerate. Wanting to cut your cock off makes you a degenerate (in most cases) or mentally ill (in rarer cases). These are lifestyles that end your genetic line and spread disease. Genetically it's a failure state and the only moral system that could allow them to be morally neutral or good is a pragmatist or hedonist framework, and only for a pragmatist if there's an over-population problem.
If your worldview sees them as a good thing, it's warped. All three mentioned sexualities are either symptoms or causes of very bad things in your civilization. Being sexually assaulted in your formative years causes degenerate sexualities. Being wildly uncomfortable with your bodies and societal roles causes them. "Born this way" is a political idea, not a scientific one and transgenderism spreads more like an airborne virus than a genetic defect and is clearly socially driven in the youth.
The idea that it's not degenerate is cope. LGBT going unchecked or even celebrated is a cause or effect of a degenerating populace or culture.

 

[Overly Serious]

The MSM uses the word "populism" all the time yet this New York Times article talks about popularism and even contrasts it to Trump (who the MSM often calls a populist). It says the Democrats need to be more popularist to make them more popular.
https://archive.is/8pKQD

I have never before now heard the term "popularism" as some distinction from "populism" rather than just a misspelling; and even did a cursory search online to see if it was a known term and didn't find anything. In fact, most things redirect to populism and the only thing I could find is an Italian form of socialism of that name (give or take some anglicization). And your article seems to be a new definition again distinct from the Italian doctrine coined by an academic a few years ago. I don't recognise it as a generally accepted political term and I think you also seem to be taking it rather at face value as saying it is sincere in contrast to populism. Populism is picking political platforms that put forward the common people's interests ahead of the elites. Whether those doing so are sincere or not is a separate axis.

Perhaps I am just the uninformed one but given that your linked article explicitly refers to "popularism" as "Shor's" idea which is again distinct from the Italian translation of another political doctrine again, and that Shor seems to be doing so in 2021, I don't think it has the weight of acceptance. And I'm quite sure @autistic dog wasn't confusing the two!

And all this is coming from me who quite frequently has to correct people confusing corporatism and corpocracy. Irregardless still isn't a word, btw.