US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[STARS158]

To fill their pockets. To create an exploitable system for their people to politically leverage. To erode society with false beliefs and opiates of the masses.

Why wouldn’t a Jew be a Jew?

Well later on you had branching off into cultural marxism, also known as western marxism, which was developed by the influential Jews during the weimar republic.

 

[John Badman]

It’s not just Pennsylvania Trump has a chance at winning due to Kamala’s decision to both not choose Shapiro as well as putting fracking limitations the last 4 years.

A surprising metric I saw this morning is that both Trump and Kamala are polling at 48% of Wisconsin. Kamala has been paying pollsters to bleed Trump by .5 to .8 every day the past week but he’s had a major comeback from 41% after Kamala announced Walz.

The corrupted states required by Joe to steal 2020 are now in play for Trump to keep out of Kamala’s reach.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

People were getting their cars firebombed because of Trump stickers so that may have something to do with it. It's why I don't have one on mine, despite really enjoying the idea of causing malignant hypertension in N-95-wearing wine aunts driving red Kia Souls.




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Because I live in a blue state, I don't dare to wear Trump stuff or have any yard signs or bumper stickers for this VERY reason.

If I didn't have kids, I would at least wear a t-shirt or a MAGA hat or something in public just out of rebellion. Plus, I'm preggo right now, and I can't afford to have some psycho do something to me.

This is when I knew how bad things were going to get: Right after the 2016 Election, I went out shopping wearing a red baseball cap that was not a MAGA hat. While I was shopping, this weird man followed me around the entire store. When he got close enough, he got a clear look of my cap and said, "Good. Your hat isn't what I thought it was." I asked him, "What if it was?" and he gave me a very weird look. I waited in the store for an extra 30 minutes; waited until I literally saw him check out, get to his car, and drive off.

But, you know, at the end of the day ... In that situation, I was the potential weirdo. lol.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

It’s not just Pennsylvania Trump has a chance at winning due to Kamala’s decision to both not choose Shapiro as well as putting fracking limitations the last 4 years.

A surprising metric I saw this morning is that both Trump and Kamala are polling at 48% of Wisconsin. Kamala has been paying pollsters to bleed trump by .5 to .8 every day the past week but he’s had a major comeback from 41% after Kamala announced Walz.

The corrupted states required by Joe to steal 2020 are now in play for Trump to keep out of Kamala’s reach.

Being seen as the underdog works in Trump's favor. If the media was reporting Trump way out in front it might suppress his turnout a bit if people think he's running away with it.

 

[Jade Philosophies]

If you want to ignore all the court cases that ruled laws unconstitutional, including some of the most notorious in recent years such as Dobbs or Bruen, and all the thousands of section 1983 suits I just mentioned. Then sure, yeah, completely useless, utterly pointless, we may as well just give up and go back to being part of the commonwealth.

But guess what? If we ignore all the people put in prison because of criminal laws, then those seem pretty pointless too.

It's a good thing warrantless government surveillance of US citizens was ruled unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court in 1967 so that it can never happen again...

 

[John Badman]

Why is it that /pol/ rapefugees can't follow their arguments to their logical conclusions?

You don’t understand the circular nature of Jews? It’s a self perpetuating society built on the backs of Rabbi turtles.

 

[CarlKingofDucks]

Because Somali and Mexican tradition aren't American tradition. The Democrats are for killing America, looting the corpse, and distributing the spoils to those with no stake in her.

In other news, this is how to understand female support for Harris-Walz.
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Seeing tweets like that make my urge to fedpost go thru the roof holy shit

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

FDR actually had to sell the American public on war with Japan. Hawaii wasn't a state at the time and a lot of Americans didn't view it as something worth fighting over.

I have never heard this before... You honestly think the American public had to be sold on going to war with Japan after Japan bombed the shit out of pearl harbor and killed thousands of American boys? Where did you get this impression from?

The Philippines were a US commonwealth territory when Japan invaded them and we essentially just left them to be occupied.

What do you left them to be occupied? Because from what I've read on the subject the US tried to put up a defense, granted it was mismanaged one, but still.

It's also easy to understand why FDR wanted to focus on Europe when you realize that there were a lot of first or second generation German Americans in the United States and there was a worry that if Hitler were victorious in Europe that many of those people would support him. The Japanese population in the US was small enough that we could put them in internment camps during the war, but there was no way the same could have been done with German Americans, particularly because they were a majority population group in several states.

This makes absolutely no sense.

Expansion of slavery

As opposed to what? Not expanding it? Not continuing the practice started before the founding of the nation?

Violations of free speech rights and violence against abolitionist activists

Abolitionist types such as John Brown?

Violent suppression of countersecession movements in places like Nickajack
Power grabs in divided states like trying to invade and subjugate Kentucky to a pretender government

A majority of counties in Kentucky supported the confederacy. Should the wishes of those not be supported? And at what point does the one have a right to leave? I not aware of a right of the place like Nickajack to leave their states, and if they have an inherent right to go against their wider polity, does that not also grant the confederacy a similar right.

Terrorism campaigns against Reconstruction governments, Blacks, White Republicans

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Or does the disenfranchisement of the confederates or the majority of the population not matter?

Helping to foster and promote (this done with the North's enthusiastic support) a proto-fascist movement in the form of the Ku Klux Klan

See above.

Maintaining a system of industrial slavery worse than real slavery by criminalizing normal behaviors, imprisoning people (on false charges if you can't get them on real ones), selling them out to private businessmen and then literally working them to death in steel mills, turpentine plantations and iron mines across Florida and Alabama

Old habits die hard as they say.

Denying men the right to a fair trial, consistent with basic human decency, instead killing them in mob violence

Which men? Men like emmett till or leo frank? I won't say every act of lynching was justified, but a lot were justified.

Forcing a regime of separation, stricter than what had existed during the actual period of slavery, where the underclass would be denied decent services their tax dollars paid for and forced into humiliation rituals

Using terrorism and brutality to try to resist their attempts to get political equality in a country their ancestors were forcedly dragged to hundreds of years ago**

Where exactly do you come down on the segregation question? I take it from this post you don't believe in freedom of association. I can understand saying that black facilities should be just as well funded as white ones, but I don't believe blacks have some right to white people or our children. I really wish Lincoln had shipped them back to Africa.

Blowing up little Black girls in church to show how angry you are about niggers

I agree that was dumb, and barbaric.

What I think was learned was how to stop thinking with ape brain, accept this population as part of broader society, and go back to its original principles that were more focused on individual freedom than on whether Negroes should be hung or just beaten for making eyes at muh sacred White woman. I've said many times, I believe, and I believe this in part because of how many Yankees who have come here have said it, that the South has better race relations today, much more so, and I believe so for a number of reasons (closer culturally, won't tolerate them starting shit/has a backbone). But I also know that it would not have shook out this way without them getting conked on the head by the Federals over and over again.

It's interesting how you don't see the connection between these two? Do you suppose ever black man who ever looked at a white woman was strung up or that perhaps the modern liberal fantasy about the south is just that, a fantasy.

It's going to take a similar effort to beat the mind-virus of Big Government controlling everything out of the Yankee.

Edit: Forgot to address this point, I don't think it will or I hope it won't require that. I think the key deciding issue in this nation is immigration and voting access. If Trump can get in and deport enough of the illegals and/or tighten up election security than I don't think the Yankee tendency toward over bearing government will win out. Reason why mass immigration is a make or break issue for the democrats and it isn't because they love non-whites for the hell of it.

Intentionally leaving the rape of Christian women a legal act, including the possibility of concubinage of women as low as 1/8th Black

Taking this shit (under Wilson) and then institutionalizing it nationwide

Illegal military adventures in nearby countries to try and suck them into the US as slave states*
Changing conception of slavery from an institution that should be constrained and eventually eliminated to it being good shit we should actively promote to, by the time of George Fitzhugh, some people arguing we should actually enslave Whites to.
Becoming obsessed with the idea of being Medieval lords (like Mark Twain wrote about), the jousting competitions, Romanticism, titles, in general the aristocracy LARPing as Medieval lords and ladies.

Attempting to use race war to subvert the union movement, suckering Whites and Blacks alike into company towns that used them as wage slaves where the corporations (many set up by Southern industrialists) where the company had the power of a government but with none of the constitutional limits

Bombing them from the air with poison gas when they tried to do something about the reign of terror

Using literacy tests to suppress not just the Blacks but also poor Whites that used to be allowed to vote
I'm not sure that Alabama state or local govt had any involvement in this at all, but the provision of fake medical treatment under false pretenses to use people in human experiments against their will

Although Walker supposedly did not originally intend to spread slavery to Nicaragua.

These I don't know enough to about. Though some of these sound like actions by corporate knuckheads, something that isn't solely original to the south.

 

[The Last Stand]

Hell, my parents talked endless shit about "spooks" and indians (who my father insisted to the day he died that Indians are shitty drivers because they're used to driving elephants) yet if one rang our doorbell looking for help, or if they were lost and needed directions, my parents were always cordial and helped them. When I once questioned my mother about how I thought they hated them, why would you help them, she told me pretty much, "I don't hate them. I don't hate anyone. They're people. I just don't want to live with them".

To hate somebody is a very strong negative sentiment to have from somebody. The older I've become, the more I understood Archie's character dynamic. You'd laugh at his bigoted statements because he is just an old man from a bygone era. However, you'd come to realize that deep down, Archie does care for his family enough to provide them with opportunities he may not have when he was their age. You can also ask the question of HOW Archie developed as the crotchy old man he was then.

He actually reminds me of my grandmother with his strong beliefs on certain demographics. Archie is tame compared to many leftists that would outright deface, hurt, humiliate, even KILL if you publicly endorse somebody outside their viewpoint.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

He’s so masculine that he abandoned his duty in cowardice.

"yeah, but he didn't dodge the draft like drumpf did"

 

[The Nothingness]

The problem is no one saw the internet coming. The internet pushes this shit in your face 24/7 and it's only gotten worse. A friend of mine said to me not long ago, "Man I see kids fighting hardcore about politics...what the fuck? When I was that age, all I cared about was getting laid. I never gave a shit about politics". I told him that with the internet, that shit is being pushed on them nonstop and they get sucked into it.

It was not just the internet as public education and entertainment (two areas conservatives ignored) played a part. The millennial crowd had the likes of Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, etc. and their various teachers pushing the left-wing message and telling them to get active. Then you had Obama's first presidential campaign where he told his supporters to argue and get in the face of their Republican relatives.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

It happens in little ways too. I remember watching realtime The T-Rex "your stick figure family was delicious" stickers start to outnumber the actual stick figure family stickers by about 8 to 1 and the T-Rex sticker owners probably still thought hilarious!

(I saw 2 of these parked side by side at the gym just a couple days ago and was reminded of this)

Or hippy type chicks dressing in ugly thrift store clothes for fun. My graduating class of 1500 long ago had a very few of them. Now they can buy ugly clothes like that brand new so they don't even have to lower themselves.

One that I have seen a lot more recently is instead of "baby on board" some kind of mildly profane edgy version like "baby up in this bitch." Either way I'm never quite sure (unless I see a child seat) if the intention is to advertise that there's a baby in the car, or some kind of twee millennial "humor."

But I see an awful lot of less playful and more aggressive anti-family stickers too. The T-Rex ones were lame but not terribly serious. There has been an escalation in rhetoric on that front too. And a lot of overt satanic stuff. I don't mean "things if you are schizo you could read between the lines and see as satanic" but stuff that is just in so many words promoting Satan. It's a weird thing to fixate on, for people who allegedly don't actually believe in any of it.

 

[mandatorylurk]

That person in Catboy's photo looks more like Shane Dawson than Vance.

 

[pwnest injun]

Marx was a self hating Jew. You and I know it to be true. How else do you describe pilfering off subsidized communalism. I am joking a bit but seriously both his parents were Jewish and raised him in a Jewish household. He can denounce it all he wants he’s still a dirty Jew.

Marx was absolutely a self-hating Jew, but the foundation of his philosophy was in Epicureanism and Hegelian Gnosticism. In fact, to Marx, "the bourgeoise" meant The Jews, and Capitalism was most epitomized by Jewish money lending.

Also, Marx's parents renounced Judaism and converted to Christianity in order to take advantage of the privileges denied to non-Christians at the time. A move which could be thought of as especially Jewish, cynically, but Marx also despised his parents, because of course he did.

 

[draggs]

Yeah, and he ran against Kennedy (D), another cold warrior, and took office after Johnson (D), of Vietnam fame. Being against Soviet communism in the 1960s wasn't a right-wing idea, it was a common, truly centrist position. The Democrats going nuts in 1968 was the start of a real anti-Cold War faction, but being a hippy wasn't a mainstream position. He didn't get a landslide in 1972 by being far right.

On other policies he was centrist, center-right, or idiosyncratic. He instituted price controls, closed the gold redemption window, and enforced Johnson-era desegregation in the South. Goldwater (and later Reagan) were right-wingers opposing and critiquing Nixon since the early 1960s. There's no way you can look at the 1960s GOP and say Nixon was a winger.

By your standards 55 years later lol

Sorry but by the standards of back then, his entire political career (1946-1974) was very firmly right wing. The 1968 campaign was 'these pinkos are burning cities and the Democrats are okay with it, plus they want to run like bitches from Vietnam, Nixon will stop the chaos here and bring our boys home with a victory.' The 1972 campaign was 'Nixon kept his promise on Nam, he put a lid on cities burning, McGovern will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory overseas, bring back burn baby burn, along with some crazy commie shit like a guaranteed minimum income.' Nixon's positions were explicitly and solidly right-wing in the Republican Party and the body politic, he was portrayed and perceived as such. Reagan shifted what being right wing meant domestically yes causing some people to say Nixon was always a centrist. Which is just lol

 

[John Badman]

Marx was absolutely a self-hating Jew, but the foundation of his philosophy was in Epicureanism and Hegelian Gnosticism. In fact, to Marx, "the bourgeoise" meant The Jews, and Capitalism was most epitomized by Jewish money lending.

Self hatred is a form of camouflage a Jew uses to fool the gentile they harbor good intention. I’m not going to armchair psychoanalyze Marx but he had the same level of sociopathy most politicians do today where they actually believe they work in the best interests of the people and not themselves.

 

[BikeLock]

"yeah, but he didn't dodge the draft like drumpf did"

"Lol, that was Vietnam."

 

[Justsomecicada]

By your standards 55 years later lol

Sorry but by the standards of back then, his entire political career (1946-1974) was very firmly right wing. The 1968 campaign was 'these pinkos are burning cities and the Democrats are okay with it, plus they want to run like bitches from Vietnam, Nixon will stop the chaos here and bring our boys home with a victory.' The 1972 campaign was 'Nixon kept his promise on Nam, he put a lid on cities burning, McGovern will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory overseas, bring back burn baby burn, along with some crazy commie shit like a guaranteed minimum income.' Nixon's positions were explicitly and solidly right-wing in the Republican Party and the body politic, he was portrayed and perceived as such. Reagan shifted what being right wing meant domestically yes causing some people to say Nixon was always a centrist. Which is just lol

You’re the one attaching presentism to historical events not him. The only people who thought he was super right wing were liberal democrats and hippies.your falling for the pop history depiction of Nixon

 

[Day of the Cope]

It IS the government that grants you rights, though. Rights aren't something that you grab as you walk through the countryside, they don't exist outside a state structure of some sort. There are no rights in anarchy save for the right of he who is strongest.

If the government can grant it to you, they can take it away.
Ergo, it is not a right.

 

[Too Many Catgirls]

Self hatred is a form of camouflage a Jew uses to fool the gentile they harbor good intention. I’m not going to armchair psychoanalyze Marx but he had the same level of sociopathy most politicians do today where they actually believe they work in the best interests of the people and not themselves.

It is funny because once you realize that you have everyone's best interests at heart, everything becomes clear as day.

Anyone that doesn't go along with what is best, clearly is not a person.