US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[The Ugly One]

What I am trying to say is that the Department of Education does have a potential non-political use in specific cases, such as requiring a modicum of special education programming and providing funding for it. We don't have the throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Theoretically, a dictator can stop all the bad things. In reality, a dictator tends to just loot the country and give the spoils to his friends. That's why the founders of America were deeply suspicious of overly centralized power, and in the end, we've realized their worst fears.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Imagine how much better the USA would be if the courts were stripped of the ability to do that?

Well, on UK, they can't deport illegals due to human rights court from EU. Even under Cuckservarive, they could not report anyone.

Canadian Supre Court recently announced they are giving out quarter of a trillion dollars to "Indigenous" people. Apparently government owes them 25 years of government budget.

Shit can be worse. America is heading that way.

 

[The Ugly One]

Well, on UK, they can't deport illegals due to human rights court from EU.

I thought the UK left the EU.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

I thought the UK left the EU.

Nah, court systems remain intact. I think it's from a separate international treaty.

 

[Calandrino]

Imagine how much better the USA would be if the courts were stripped of the ability to do that?

I dunno, a rightwing activist court might be pretty badass. It could rule that back-sass from uppity niggers isn't constitutionally-protected speech, and stuff like that.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Theoretically, a dictator can stop all the bad things. In reality, a dictator tends to just loot the country and give the spoils to his friends. That's why the founders of America were deeply suspicious of overly centralized power, and in the end, we've realized their worst fears.

I am not advocating for a benevolent dictator, nor am I arguing for the Department of Education to overrule local and state education boards. However, I recognize your position, which is "fuck the federal government."

 

[Jade Philosophies]

I thought the UK left the EU.

We did but there's an EU "human rights" court (they say it's not the EU but it basically is, just not "officially"), the ECHR, that our government is still signed up to. It's ridiculous.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

I dunno, a rightwing activist court might be pretty badass. It could rule that back-sass from uppity niggers isn't constitutionally-protected speech, and stuff like that.

If the court was about preserving the rights and not creating bullshit rights, I agree.

 

[ForTheHoard]

I have to assume all the black pillers are young and this is their first election cycle. Trump is currently outperforming himself in 2015 and 2019. He's probably going to get 83+ million votes. For Kamala to win, her numbers need to put Obama and Biden to shame, and I just don't see that happening.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I have to assume all the black pillers are young and this is their first election cycle. Trump is currently outperforming himself in 2015 and 2019. He's probably going to get 83+ million votes. For Kamala to win, her numbers need to put Obama and Biden to shame, and I just don't see that happening.

This is the case in my experience: young, cynical people. Or they're straight up shills.

Harris could still win. It's not an impossibility by any stretch, but it's not looking good for her and everyone knows it.

 

[Jade Philosophies]

If an influencer can get the money first, then go and say to the world "I'm just here to get the money, Trump '24, this is fake and gay" that would fuck up this plan so much that the uggo zoomer girls running the campaign will have to resort to the Me Too tactic, find NPCs to say Trump and Vance molested them at the RNC, or at MAL.

You mean like when Warp were at some PlayStation event and revealed the new version of D2 (it was originally being developed for the never-released 3DO M2) then at the end of the teaser the Dreamcast logo appeared and they announced it was actually Dreamcast exclusive?!

 

[Harvey Danger]

I do think that the Department of Education serves a policy purpose by, for example, setting minimum requirements for special education programs. While I agree with @Harvey Danger that some kids have severe enough disabilities that they will never function in society, there absolutely are kids with special needs who can be fully- or semi-functioning if they receive some form of education. You cannot educate people after a certain point in their development - studies on feral children prove this. If you don't teach a child to speak at critical points in time, they will never learn to speak. Yes, these are individual cases and it cannot scale, but we have to do something for these children other than call them casualties.

There's a lot of federal agencies that could be good, in the theoretical ideal world where they have minimal responsibilities and never grow. But they always tend to overstep their bounds and grow into something terrible.

My classic example is the Federal Reserve; I want it abolished. Actually, I do want it around, with only a single function: provide emergency loans to insolvent banks, at punitive interest rates, something like prime rate +3000 basis points. However I know if you kept the Fed around, they'll eventually grow back into the monster they are today, with increasing powers, being used to solve problems they aren't supposed to solve... because that's exactly what happened after being established in 1913.

If the DoE was reduced solely to providing guidelines for special ed, or things like minimum instruction days and number of years in a K-12 education, I could agree to that. But once you set up an official guideline "expert" agency, the countdown starts for expansion, power grabs, and eventual subversion. It takes an extremely active and vigilant citizenry to prevent administrative creep like that, and we don't have the mechanisms to enable them right now.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

This is the case in my experience: young, cynical people. Or they're straight up shills.

I think that the biggest problem with the youngest generation is that half of them are cynical when it comes to politics, and the the other half is being misled by grifters. People like Fuentes come to mind regarding the second group

 

[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

It feels like the Kamala train is starting to run off the tracks. The "everything is fine just ignore the world" line she's running with is being rejected wholesale by anyone who isn't an NPC.

 

[The Ugly One]

There's a lot of federal agencies that could be good, in the theoretical ideal world where they have minimal responsibilities and never grow. But they always tend to overstep their bounds and grow into something terrible.

My classic example is the Federal Reserve; I want it abolished. Actually, I do want it around, with only a single function: provide emergency loans to insolvent banks, at punitive interest rates, something like prime rate +3000 basis points. However I know if you kept the Fed around, they'll eventually grow back into the monster they are today, with increasing powers, being used to solve problems they aren't supposed to solve... because that's exactly what happened after being established in 1913.

If the DoE was reduced solely to providing guidelines for special ed, or things like minimum instruction days and number of years in a K-12 education, I could agree to that. But once you set up an official guideline "expert" agency, the countdown starts for expansion, power grabs, and eventual subversion. It takes an extremely active and vigilant citizenry to prevent administrative creep like that, and we don't have the mechanisms to enable them right now.

There is a simple fix to all of this. Every year, we roll a d20. If it comes up 1, everyone in the federal bureaucracy is summarily executed.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

There's a lot of federal agencies that could be good, in the theoretical ideal world where they have minimal responsibilities and never grow. But they always tend to overstep their bounds and grow into something terrible.

My classic example is the Federal Reserve; I want it abolished. Actually, I do want it around, with only a single function: provide emergency loans to insolvent banks, at punitive interest rates, something like prime rate +3000 basis points. However I know if you kept the Fed around, they'll eventually grow back into the monster they are today, with increasing powers, being used to solve problems they aren't supposed to solve... because that's exactly what happened after being established in 1913.

If the DoE was reduced solely to providing guidelines for special ed, or things like minimum instruction days and number of years in a K-12 education, I could agree to that. But once you set up an official guideline "expert" agency, the countdown starts for expansion, power grabs, and eventual subversion. It takes an extremely active and vigilant citizenry to prevent administrative creep like that, and we don't have the mechanisms to enable them right now.

You and I are very much in agreement with one another. Where I think that we differ is that the end of Chevron Deference makes me hopeful that these bullshit agencies can and will be reined in.

I think that the biggest problem with the youngest generation is that half of them are cynical when it comes to politics, and the the other half is being misled by grifters. People like Fuentes come to mind regarding the second group

I agree with this. There is also a concerted effort by genuine crab-in-a-bucket assholes to convince themselves they are right by propagandizing others, coupled with genuine foreign shills.

There is a simple fix to all of this. Every year, we roll a d20. If it comes up 1, everyone in the federal bureaucracy is summarily executed.

I just want the commies gone. Is that too much to ask for?

 

[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

I have an idea for an executive order for Trump.

If you work for the ATF you are legally recognized as a homosexual. This won't change anything for the majority of those faggots, but it'll be nice to have them be cocksuckers on paper.

Edit: An inside source (I made it up) has informed me that the hiring process for the ATF involves kissing a bunch of dudes.

 

[Back me up!]

I have an idea for an executive order for Trump.

If you work for the ATF you are legally recognized as a homosexual. This won't change anything for the majority of those faggots, but it'll be nice to have them be cocksuckers on paper.

Lol, Trump doesn't have to do that. All he has do is make a executive order that says
"Every single ATF Agent is going to clean up and confiscate every unregistered and felony use handguns in Chicago/New York/<inserted deep blue city> due to their crime and murder rate usage".

A couple of amazing things will happen:
1. A bunch of ATF fed boys will quit on the spot
2. A bunch of black people murder ATF Fed agents.
3. A bunch of ATF Fed agents murder black people

Or a combo of all three!

 

[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

Lol, Trump doesn't have to do that. All he has do is make a executive order that says
"Every single ATF Agent is going to clean up and confiscate every unregistered and felony use handguns in Chicago/New York/<inserted deep blue city> due to their crime and murder rate usage".

A couple of amazing things will happen:
1. A bunch of ATF fed boys will quit on the spot
2. A bunch of black people murder ATF Fed agents.
3. A bunch of ATF Fed agents murder black people

Or a combo of all three!

Wait but what does that have to do with kissing men

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

An inside source (I made it up) has informed me that the hiring process for the ATF involves kissing a bunch of dudes.

Kamala would feel right at home in the ATF