Should Men Get Married?

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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I'd imagine most people nowadays, especially those raised by Boomers and Gen X, have really shitty relationships with their parents as well. Trying to guilt people by "but think of your poor poor parents" isn't gonna work anymore. In fact, guilting and shaming people doesn't work as strongly anymore anyway because the people that need to be shamed are resistant to it and those that aren't see that being shamed just fucks you.
 
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As long as you can avoid turning into some fat asshole posting /r/childfree, the leisure money a bachelor has to spend on himself is fantastic. Instead of a college fund for your children, create an "I'm getting laid budget" so you can afford to buy people drinks and impress them.

Here's a little pro tip for your "I'm getting laid" budget. If you dress like a homeless person and walk past a Planned Parenthood, they'll give you free condoms.

If you are unable to get free condoms from planned Parenthood, then offer a homeless black person an inexpensive bottle of watered sown gas station vodka to get those free condoms for you.
 
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I'd like you to expand on what you mean and how, if you think being anywhere near a woman will result in divorce rape
If a man wants to actually be a dad, pass his name on, build a family, and all that stuff. His options are mostly limited to surrogacy. Surrogacy has it's own risks, especially if done in the West, and it can be fairly expensive. However a way around this is to hire a surrogate from a poorer country while using an egg from a donor who meets your specifications. The risk of surrogates suing for custody of the child exists, but is absolutely negligible when compared to 50% like with marriage.

If a man just has a darwinist view of reproduction and does not give one single fuck, he can just have a lot of bastard children either through fertility clinics, or privately with married lesbian couples. Specifically married because that protects the man from being legally considered the father. This is done better if no names are exchanged. There are still risks of course, but it's a lot safer than 50%.

Anyway. That's what I meant and how. I'm not going to go into my private life obviously, but it's just me trying to counter the old tired "your genes and legacy die with you if you don't get married" crap.
 
What incentive is there for women to get married given the toxic attitudes, predominantly from White males, towards women and mothers? Pregnancy, excruciating life-risking childbirth, breastfeeding and childcare, etc., is considerably more difficult than ejaculating. Yet fathers are constantly made out to be victims, despite having done the bare minimum in comparison to the mother, even when they are the guilty party for the relationship breakdown.

I have never seen shit dads and shit husbands slagged off like mothers have been for the last thirty years. Then you wonder why women are rejecting you, are choosing not to be mothers and why the birth rates have plummeted to the point where the extinction of White people is pretty much guaranteed.

Superior in intellect and better at critical thinking skills, you say?

I seldom see the evidence.

You were manipulated into believing women were to blame for the state of the West, despite the majority of politicians and political leaders being male, and you fell for it like fucking chumps. Now you're going to go extinct.

You get what you fucking deserve..
 
What incentive is there for women to get married
Having all their needs and wants paid for by someone else in exchange for opening their legs every now and then, doing some cleaning, and cooking.
Yet fathers are constantly made out to be victims, despite having done the bare minimum in comparison to the mother
Because they are. They do by far the most work to make the lifestyle of the mother and children possible, and to secure a future for the children.
I have never seen shit dads and shit husbands slagged off like mothers have been for the last thirty years.
Welfare makes up the majority of government spending in the US. The primary beneficiaries of welfare programs are single mothers. The US is in over 30 trillion dollars of debt to keep single mothers happy.
Then you wonder why women are rejecting you
I don't give a fuck what women think of me. I got what I wanted out of them. Men are the ones saying no, and women are complaining.
I seldom see the evidence.
Men are smarter than women. Deal with it. https://www.richardhanania.com/p/ar...dium=ios&utm_campaign=post&triedRedirect=true
despite the majority of politicians and political leaders being male
The majority of the electorate are women.
Now you're going to go extinct.
You get what you fucking deserve..
Understand that this attitude is the exact same one that the women in Afghanistan had. Now they have no rights and are being kept barefoot in the kitchen as breeding sows for the Taliban.

If you want to bitch about men, go to the man-hate thread.
 
No we're being kind and compassionate by warning men about the trap so that they don't have their lives fucked up.
It's not kind and compassionate to walk other men into a life of misery and loneliness.

You have zero defense against this. Zero.
It's called don't be retarded when making decisions that will affect the rest of your life. Your defense is prudence and deliberation.

Talk about offspring and legacy all you want. There are ways to achieve that outside of marriage. Sinful? Probably. But cheaper, and far safer. It's something I value, and it's something I have achieved, and I put myself in minimal danger to achieve it.
You're dying spiritually and deserve the life you build for yourself. Your arguments about Eve being the tempter of Adam completely ignore that Adam still had agency in that situation just like Eve did. Cast Satan out of your life and live.

Your options are prostitute or marriage and the former will fuck you in all the wrong ways harder than divorce rape ever could. If you go down this path you will end up a bitter, angry old man who blames the world for his woes.

Get it through your thick, porn sick skulls that the path of joy is not to play it safe, shove your dick in the sand, and hope that the god of technology will come through and let you clone yourself while ignoring the rising tide around you. You're going to get old, you're going to die, and no amount of wealth will matter. You're cursing yourselves to an empty existence because you're worried a woman will run off with your strips of cotton and linen printed by the bunch of psychopathic pedophiles we call the government.

“It is not good for the man to be alone.” Even in a perfect, idealized Eden, not cursed by sin, Man wasn't deemed complete without a wife. It was so important to our existence that it's in the second chapter of the bible, right after creation. Money and shiny objects mean JACK SHIT in this life when compared to your relationship with God and then your relationships with your family.
 
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It's not kind and compassionate to walk other men into a life of misery and loneliness.
I'm offering other men a choice based on ACCURATE INFORMATION. If they still want to take the risk, that's on them. Not all men base their worth on the validation of women.
It's called don't be retarded when making decisions that will affect the rest of your life. Your defense is prudence and deliberation.
BE PSYCHIC AND PREDICT THE FUTURE AND READ MINDS
You're dying spiritually and deserve the life you build for yourself.
I love my life wtf you talking about bro?
Your arguments about Eve being the tempter of Adam completely ignore that Adam still had agency in that situation just like Eve did.
Adam had the agency to deny his wife and he chose not to. I advocate that men use their agency to deny women marriage. So they don't repeat Adam's mistake.
Your options are prostitute or marriage and the former will fuck you in all the wrong ways harder than divorce rape ever could.
I disagree, but this shows how uncreative you are. Do women mean nothing to you other than just being a hole to fuck? The fact you'd call a prostitute an alternative to a wife makes me think so.
You're cursing yourselves to an empty existence
I have friends, family, pets, and children. All of whom I love very much. What need for a wife do I have? I already have all the benefits a wife can provide.
 
Ehh, the Christian arguement falls flat when you realise that they don't even follow their own book
1 Timothy 2:12 : But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
You know how many female priests there are? Don't worry though they have all the answers now shut up and do as your told.
 
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Quit dragging people into your quagmire of miserable self loathing.
You're just projecting your own need for female validation and obsession with sex. Guys make their own choices, I made my own choice, and I want other guys to have full and accurate information before they make risky bets like marriage. What do you got? Guilt and shame? Lmao like @Burning Bridge said. Those of us raised by boomers and gen x are utterly immune to that crap.
 
If a man wants to actually be a dad, pass his name on, build a family, and all that stuff. His options are mostly limited to surrogacy. Surrogacy has it's own risks, especially if done in the West, and it can be fairly expensive. However a way around this is to hire a surrogate from a poorer country while using an egg from a donor who meets your specifications. The risk of surrogates suing for custody of the child exists, but is absolutely negligible when compared to 50% like with marriage.

If a man just has a darwinist view of reproduction and does not give one single fuck, he can just have a lot of bastard children either through fertility clinics, or privately with married lesbian couples. Specifically married because that protects the man from being legally considered the father. This is done better if no names are exchanged. There are still risks of course, but it's a lot safer than 50%.

Anyway. That's what I meant and how. I'm not going to go into my private life obviously, but it's just me trying to counter the old tired "your genes and legacy die with you if you don't get married" crap.
Jesus dude I hope you're baiting
 
Imagine your best buddy. Now imagine being with that best buddy all the time, there to help each other through the hard times and enjoy the good times. Imagine that buddy with boobs, a vagina, and an excitement to have sex with you. It's kind of a no-brainer. My wife is my best friend and it's fun being married.
People that say that either never had a real best buddy, have a low iq or found an unicorn
 
I'm not. If men want to survive, they need to adapt to their environment. The environment right now makes renting womb space or being a deadbeat much more viable and secure than getting married and having children that way.
You're only having children for selfish reasons, there's so much more to continuing your bloodline than just simply bringing children into existence. This will have a negative impact on society in the long run and won't fix anything. I still think you're baiting but I'll entertain it.
 
I'm not. If men want to survive, they need to adapt to their environment. The environment right now makes renting womb space or being a deadbeat much more viable and secure than getting married and having children that way.
There's nothing more demonic than surrogacy.
It's making a mockery of the miracle of life

Karma will get you just like Elon Musk and you will get troon children.
 
You're only having children for selfish reasons, there's so much more to continuing your bloodline than just simply bringing children into existence. This will have a negative impact on society in the long run and won't fix anything. I still think you're baiting but I'll entertain it.
Every single reason to have children is selfish. It's always about what the parents want with zero input from the child, because you can't ask them, because they don't exist until you make them. We're all products of one or more selfish desires. The method you use to have children doesn't really change that.
There's nothing more demonic than surrogacy.
How many decades have fertility clinics been making fatherless children at the behests of women? Why is assisted reproduction only a problem now that men have figured out a way to benefit from it?
 
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What incentive is there for women to get married given the toxic attitudes, predominantly from White males, towards women and mothers? Pregnancy, excruciating life-risking childbirth, breastfeeding and childcare, etc., is considerably more difficult than ejaculating. Yet fathers are constantly made out to be victims, despite having done the bare minimum in comparison to the mother, even when they are the guilty party for the relationship breakdown.

I have never seen shit dads and shit husbands slagged off like mothers have been for the last thirty years. Then you wonder why women are rejecting you, are choosing not to be mothers and why the birth rates have plummeted to the point where the extinction of White people is pretty much guaranteed.

Superior in intellect and better at critical thinking skills, you say?

I seldom see the evidence.

You were manipulated into believing women were to blame for the state of the West, despite the majority of politicians and political leaders being male, and you fell for it like fucking chumps. Now you're going to go extinct.

You get what you fucking deserve..
Go lie in the grave with the Troons and other freaks
 
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