Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Coo Coo Bird]

IDK maybe I'm in a minority here, but I'm not too bothered by these guys. Obviously they're mentally ill degenerates, but they're also sticking to their own very insular communities and for the most part don't seek "validation" from other people, and I haven't heard of "nullos" trying to force themselves into women's spaces or demanding that OBGYNs look at their origami'd genitalia. This fetish has been around for a loooooooong time (I'd argue it predates institutionalized troonery by a long shot) and they have certainly inhabited their own online spaces since the 90's.

The Eunuch community (we already have a thread for them) has been influential in pushing transgender ideology, because getting castrated didn't change them from being sexual predators.

EXCLUSIVE: Sadistic Pedophile Was Member Of Forum Cited By Transgender Medical Authority​

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A&N thread (sneed) (onion)
Reduxx covers how pedophile Jack Wayne Rogers was a member of the Eunuch Archive.

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-california-gender-academic-inspired-pedophilic-fantasy-on-castrating-enslaving-young-boys/

Another story by Reduxx on the pedophile academic Thomas W. Johnson and his castration-loving colleagues.

 

[Obnoxious Asshole]

The full paper is kind of hard to access, so let me know if you want me to copy/paste more of it (or alternatively, if you find a full copy online that doesn't require special access)

I'd like a link. This is begging for me to share.

 

[Cuckoman]

I never understood the resentment guys that got circumcised as a baby have. You literally cannot know the difference between how sex is with foreskin vs how it is without foreskin if your entire conscious existence has been without foreskin. Being salty about it accomplishes nothing except for making you look like a whiner baby.
I also don't understand when uncircumcised guys flex about how much better it feels. You don't know the difference either!
The only men that can say for sure had sex while intact, got circumcised, then had sex after healing. Those men are the only ones qualified to say what it's really like. And even if they say it's way better intact, there's no use being mad about being circumcised as a baby because you will never know the difference

t. circumcised man

That line of argument does not make sense.

Car analogy: If you own a shitty Trabant, you do not need to have previously owned and operated a Ferrari in order to be able to fully know and understand that the Trabant is a sub-standard experience and that you are missing out.

 

[Screamer_2]

My interest is piqued. I can’t begin to imagine the psychology behind a gay man doing that. Psychotic doesn’t cut it.

While none of this makes sense to me, that one is particularly strange. Are they gay men who are raised with internal homophobia that they want to remove the ability to have sex? Are they pedos who want to remove the ability to do so? It makes less sense that some porn sick retard who thinks they can cut their dick off and have the hole.

 

[DootSkeleton]

That line of argument does not make sense.

Car analogy: If you own a shitty Trabant, you do not need to have previously owned and operated a Ferrari in order to be able to fully know and understand that the Trabant is a sub-standard experience and that you are missing out.

I suppose. My point is I don't understand the desire to continue seething about something that you can't change.
Being mad about something you can't change that negatively impacts you when you first realize it is totally reasonable and understandable. Continuing to be mad about whatever it is won't improve your situation and will only make you miserable. It's better to focus on what you can change that will improve your life.

Unrelated to your point: I had never heard of a Trabant before your post

 

[Free the Pedos]

The nullo stuff disgusts me beyond words. At least troons want a body that exists in the world, not something that is a direct affront to God and nature. In a sane society they’d be institutionalized immediately.

Does this dumb deluded pooner not realize that men's testes continuously make new sperm? How TF is a frankenscrotum sewn onto a woman's crotch supposed to make sperm (out of some poor dead/dickless guy's 'dna')? Or does she just think they work like ovaries, which have all their ova for a woman's entire life already when she's born?

I really think these people’s conception of the human body has been massively impacted by computer game character screens. Everything can be hooked up and swapped out. It boggles the mind that they think the human body is so simple.

Odd question, but I have to ask...how the hell do these guys actually pass urine

I know past-o eunuchs sometimes had little metal straws they would insert into their urethra to help pass urine. Maybe something like that.

 

[Gog & Magog]

I never understood the resentment guys that got circumcised as a baby have.

I understand the resentment when it results in cock injury. (e.i. Null)

 

[Fapcop]

The nullo stuff disgusts me beyond words. At least troons want a body that exists in the world, not something that is a direct affront to God and nature. In a sane society they’d be institutionalized immediately.

Agreed, but the Nullos aren’t even the craziest or most degenerate part of the equation.

The real insanity, criminal insanity imho, is the fact that some doctor went: “Oh, you want your dick and testicles cut off for the coom and reroute your urethra so you can piss out of a little hole? Sure, no problem! Just sign this form right here!”

That’s some medical horror that would make goddamn Mengele blush.

Every one of these doctors need to go stand at the wall/be put in prison.

(And note how the doctors don’t exactly advertise these surgeries, like they do with the tranny shit, they know it’s hella dodgy!)

Look here for example:



Apparently the Crane center is one place that does these. But you don’t need a word about it on their website.

Probably because even the most liberal normie, who believes someone can be “born” with the wrong body, would go: “This is absolutely FUCKED!” If you described nullification.

 

[Positron]

Odd question, but I have to ask...how the hell do these guys actually pass urine?

How is this done to make sure that what remains of the urethral orifice does not scar itself shut?

Through the hole where their urethra used to be, like eunuchs of yore. As for preventing the orifice being scarred shut, the Chinese imperial court had a very cost-effective method: a straw in the hole, changed daily, for a few months.

 

[Screamer_2]

I really think these people’s conception of the human body has been massively impacted by computer game character screens. Everything can be hooked up and swapped out. It boggles the mind that they think the human body is so simple..

It hurts the brain to comprehend.

It's something I have never figured out a way to properly communicate to people I know who aren't aware. So much current nonsense in the world is linked directly to ideologies and being indoctrinated into thinking in a manner inconsistent with there being an objective reality.

I know plenty of people onboard or not onboard with so many progressive / woke and current day things where they have a reasonable interpretation because they would never actually think in such a retarded detached from reality manner.

 

[Paper Machete]

I watched that American Mary movie years ago (I think that was what it was called?) and have been reminded of it from time to time reading through threads like this. A woman studying to be a doctor (or interning, something) is raped and she deals with the trauma by going rogue and becoming a body mod surgeon doing crazy shit to people. One of the characters wants all sexual characteristics erased, no nipples, genitals smoothed. I can't remember if it's supposed to be a natal female or male. But I distinctly remember how clearly this is all framed to shock and vaguely disturb you. Someone wanting that, someone being willing to make it happen, and the results are supposed to be disturbing. And in the year of our Lord 2024 there are people getting shit like that covered on the insurance or some whack shit.

 

[Obnoxious Asshole]

EBaumsworld had some wild shit on their forums before the site got castrated.

 

[Gog & Magog]

IDK maybe I'm in a minority here, but I'm not too bothered by these guys. Obviously they're mentally ill degenerates, but they're also sticking to their own very insular communities and for the most part don't seek "validation" from other people, and I haven't heard of "nullos" trying to force themselves into women's spaces or demanding that OBGYNs look at their origami'd genitalia. This fetish has been around for a loooooooong time (I'd argue it predates institutionalized troonery by a long shot) and they have certainly inhabited their own online spaces since the 90's.

The Eunuch Archive, one of the most significant eunuch websites and explicitly cited by WPATH in it's Standards of Care 8, has a user-made "fiction" section containing thousands of stories all about castrating boys. Turns out men with insane masochistic fantasies enjoy indulging in insane sadistic fantasies as well. Every last one of these men are dangerous.

 

[Hepativore]

That line of argument does not make sense.

Car analogy: If you own a shitty Trabant, you do not need to have previously owned and operated a Ferrari in order to be able to fully know and understand that the Trabant is a sub-standard experience and that you are missing out.

Spoiler: off-topic sperging for a moment

It stems from the fact that it is an idiotic practice that continues in the US for no medical reason in most cases, and it has led to amputations and infections yet it still continues. A not insignificant amount of skin is removed during the procedure and if this were any other body part, the practice would be banned.

FGM is banned in most countries across the board, yet it can involve anything from the mere removal of the clitoral hood to the total removal of the clitoris and labia.

The only reason it persists in the US is because a religious fundamentalist named John Kellogg latched onto and promoted the practice as a cure for various dubious medical claims and because people like to hop on bandwagons, it stuck and nobody really can think of a good answer as to why it is done.

If somebody really wants to skin their penis, they are perfectly free to do so as an adult, otherwise it is something that should be outlawed. This is the last I will say on the matter as this belongs in another thread.

I have heard of the "sub" in bdsm relationships submitting to having themselves castrated by their "dom" but I hope most of the bdsm community does not take things that far as it seems that it would remove any ability to experience sexual pleasure at all...not to mention that injuries in that area of the body are very prone to infection because of the location.

It is a sad reflection on the current state of society where it has to be pointed out that hacking up your genitourinary system is a Very Bad Idea, and losing the ability to "coom" will be the least of your worries because of the medical domino effect it causes in the future.

 

[The Gunt Whisperer]

I watched that American Mary movie years ago (I think that was what it was called?) and have been reminded of it from time to time reading through threads like this. A woman studying to be a doctor (or interning, something) is raped and she deals with the trauma by going rogue and becoming a body mod surgeon doing crazy shit to people. One of the characters wants all sexual characteristics erased, no nipples, genitals smoothed. I can't remember if it's supposed to be a natal female or male. But I distinctly remember how clearly this is all framed to shock and vaguely disturb you. Someone wanting that, someone being willing to make it happen, and the results are supposed to be disturbing. And in the year of our Lord 2024 there are people getting shit like that covered on the insurance or some whack shit.

Yup. Ruby Realgirl, Beatress’ friend. She wanted to be a living doll, having her nipples removed, her vagina sewn shut, and all the other “unnecessary bits” removed.

Excellent movie. Even if the Soska sisters ended up being a couple of degenerate abusers with a nazi fetish. Katherine Isabelle did a great job as Mary.

 

[cuddle striker]

the eunuchs who get the removal done are the bottoms, masochists or submissive. they aren't bothersome to me. the surgeries they get are simple and long-studied, there's little risk to them. they have sequelae like depression, fatigue and weight gain which often are handled by antidepressants and/or physical therapy. it's not uncharted waters like the horrors we see in this thread. it's not in any way an experimental surgery.

as to the culture surrounding them, it's BD/SM, there will be terrible people in the mix. that's how any group of people are- but there's more than usual here since nonconsensual sadism isn't discouraged in a lot of those spaces.

some of those spaces online and irl are fairly dicey, whether they're gay- or straight-oriented.

edit: see any sexual deviant thread for evidence of BD/SM horrors, straight or gay.

 

[iSaidShhh]

the surgeries they get are simple and long-studied, there's little risk to them.

Of all people on the Farms, I'm not going to question you on medical stuff (or @Thomas Eugene Paris or @Aunt Carol), but it is absolutely fucking buckwild to me that chopping off a whole entire dick can be classified as simple and low-risk. But I guess it makes sense, there's been a couple millennia to really fine-tune the technique.

But still. The whole dick. The whole thing. Wild. Human bodies are nuts.

 

[cuddle striker]

Of all people on the Farms, I'm not going to question you on medical stuff (or @Thomas Eugene Paris or @Aunt Carol), but it is absolutely fucking buckwild to me that chopping off a whole entire dick can be classified as simple and low-risk. But I guess it makes sense, there's been a couple millennia to really fine-tune the technique.

But still. The whole dick. The whole thing. Wild. Human bodies are nuts.

millennia of surgeries indeed, and men who have cancers needing removed, or trauma to that anatomy. it's well-studied.
we perform amputations all the time. it's just another amputation (penile amputation). orchiectomy/castration has ongoing effects due to loss of testosterone, but that's even more researched. it's even older, castrati and eunuchs are a historical thing.

it's the reconstruction of these that is more modern.

it's the building of previously-non-existent bodily structures that's experimental.

similar thing with mastectomy. these have been done for hundreds of years; cancer, injury, or deformity as primary reasons. that isn't a controversial or very dangerous procedure and I've no issues with adults willingly getting these surgeries, generally speaking.

 

[iSaidShhh]

it's even older, castrati and eunuchs are a historical thing.

Sorry if I came across as snarky, I meant it when I said there's been a couple millennia to study it - I was thinking about Chinese court eunuchs and Renaissance-era castrati (fun fact, Anne Rice wrote a mildly to moderately insane book about Italian castrati and their various love affairs. I remember reading it as a young teenager and wondering how they were getting it up if they didn't have balls). It makes sense that removal and cleanly sewing up the stump/removal site would be significantly easier than trying to add on to the body, though; if you think about it like a BKA it doesn't seem so crazy, even though there's a lot more to remove there, but adding another foot to the ankle seems insane, because it's insane.

 

[Aunt Carol]

it's the building of previously-non-existent bodily structures that's experimental.

Aw, but it's fine, though. Completely safe; no risk of side effects whatsoever! You'll wear pantyliners for a week and go right back to working in the warehouse. Perfect sensation and orgasmic function; no loss of urinary continence. Gynecologists can't tell. Why, after a little while, the inverted penis just turns right into vaginal mucosa, because it knows it should have been that all along.

Just sign here.