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You’re right that the effects of millions of people starving/dying of thirst in cities and suburbs would reduce the population though. It’s a miracle things work now. They aren’t fixing anything in that scenario, and there won’t be fuel for their generators after a few weeks. US refining and shipping ports are hanging on by a thread right now as is.
The oil industry considers refining and so on 'downstream', as in basically overhead that they don't want to deal with really. Upstream, the drilling and exploration is where the profits are. All the rest is a loss leader, that's why when Exxon ate up Mobil they wrecked tons of the Mobil stuff which was a lot of downstream. BP is completely the same.

The min things that need to be done, backup refineries ( Expensive, bad for eco warriors, low profit, and take up land) and replacement transformers and so on for local power plants. Without those we're really in a terrible weak situation that only a few hundred/thousand well equipped people with bombs, small EMPs, and guns could mean bye bye electricity all over for years or ever.

ETA some typos, but really it's a fine line from now to disaster. After 9/11 I and friends of mine said 'infrastructure, water and power are next'. Somehow it hasn't happened, but it would be a real big problem.

I'm almost wondering if they don't do it because MAD situation might apply. Practically it's not hard. Like Cruz said, he doesn't know how we haven't been hit by at least mass school shootings like Beslan or worse.
 
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The oil industry considers refining and so on 'downstream', as in basically overhead that they don't want to deal with really. Upstream, the drilling and exploration is where the profits are. All the rest is a loss leader, that's why when Exxon ate up Mobil they wrecked tons of the Mobil stuff which was a lot of downstream. BP is completely the same.
Thats not always true. Marathon Oil was the sick man of Marathon. Marathon Petroleum (refining) was where all the money was. What you’re right about is that all oil companies hate to invest in downstream maintenance. That’s why BP Texas City exploded. At least Marathon is less retarded than BP.
The min things that need to be done, backup refineries ( Expensive, bad for eco warriors, low profit, and take up land) and replacement transformers and so on for local power plants. Without those we're really in a terrible weak situation that only a few hundred/hundred well equipped people with bombs, small EMPs, and guns could mean bye bye electricity all over for years or ever.
Exactly. The US hasn’t had a ground up new refinery built since 1977. Most of the grid is also decades old. It’s crazy what it takes to keep that stuff running.
 
Thats not always true. Marathon Oil was the sick man of Marathon. Marathon Petroleum (refining) was where all the money was. What you’re right about is that all oil companies hate to invest in downstream maintenance. That’s why BP Texas City exploded. At least Marathon is less retarded than BP.
Yes, there's also the plastics market, pretty much every sealed plastic chip bag's silver in-lining is produced from ExxonMobil downstream to Frito-Lay.

But overall, it's where they never want to invest in since there's so much damn oil for the next generations that's fairly easy to get, especially with fracking, that it's a like how TI considers calculators. A bit of a publicity stunt that's a tiny part of the business. Or why Apple keeps making Mac computers now, it's just goodwill stuff mostly. They really don't have to improve TI calcs any, they're locked in. Apple has a beholden Mac audience that's small too, no need to innovate much anymore.

Sorry to take this into a business discussion now, but Disney and game companies really lose the basic business idea of 'goodwill'. That is a very valuable idea in the real world.
 
Exactly. The US hasn’t had a ground up new refinery built since 1977. Most of the grid is also decades old. It’s crazy what it takes to keep that stuff running.
You know what's up. American infrastructure was and has been in a dubious wobbling jenga tower state for so long that it was still a "platform" to campaign on (and swiftly forget about after) ever since even when I was a little bastard kid begging for pan pizza for dinner to eat while watching glorified toy commercial cartoons after. It's the one thing that a lot of asia can hold over our heads as a "Ha ha you so BACKWARD" point because even jank ass regions like the philippines have fairly crispy and new transportation infrastructure and a lot of places outside the third world it is not considered normal to have their local power grids shit and die whenever a brisk windy rainstorm hits.

We're in a patchwork brain drained society where an alarming amount of our system critical shit is also running on ancient backends that use windows 3.1/DOS/XP and purpose code specialty software where the original coder has to be rang up in the retirement villa if it ever starts acting up and not enough people think that is concerning.
 
Substations hurt the plebes. The elites have their their own setups. Sometimes literally with solar and/or generators. Or just de facto because they dont live with the riff raff. And they get to blame the evil right to moralize to their plebes if you pop a citys station. Remember they want population down to 500 million.

You might pop a few of their substations. They will get annoyed and get guards for Marthas Vineyard and go on their yacht while it gets fixed. Or you can out a cities and they will use it to say how many babies died because the hospital lost power and how evil you are. They dont care. I dont think white resistance fighters are willing to start killing the children of their guards and maids. They are 100 percent willing to take your kids to get sex trafficked though.

Politicians hid under their benches due to a guided tour. They'd be absolutely slaughtered in a civil war.
 
The only silver lining is that it will destroy everything in a generation.
I simply do not understand this mainly /pol/tard mindset of "yes let it all burn"
How much of a fucking loser are you that you want everything to get fucked even more? For you to have NOTHING worthwhile in your life yet somehow think you'll survive everything going to shit completely is insane. You're a fag and everyone who says let it all burn are also fags.
 
I simply do not understand this mainly /pol/tard mindset of "yes let it all burn"
How much of a fucking loser are you that you want everything to get fucked even more? For you to have NOTHING worthwhile in your life yet somehow think you'll survive everything going to shit completely is insane. You're a fag and everyone who says let it all burn are also fags.
I'm starting to understand it. The US was nearly destroyed under biden with illegals. With harris. I mean really.

Yeah yeah there will be still gated nice places, but we're absolutely fucked already. And with her??? It's unthinkable now. I try to think about how bad it can get, but it's hard.
 
I simply do not understand this mainly /pol/tard mindset of "yes let it all burn"
How much of a fucking loser are you that you want everything to get fucked even more? For you to have NOTHING worthwhile in your life yet somehow think you'll survive everything going to shit completely is insane. You're a fag and everyone who says let it all burn are also fags.
It's vicarious suicide. They want to kill themselves but too coward to do it. This makes them angy at themselves and that's transferred to angy at society. So society must become just as miserable and kill itself, it vindicates them *somehow*
 
It's vicarious suicide. They want to kill themselves but too coward to do it. This makes them angy at themselves and it's transferred to society. So society must become just as miserable and kill itself, it vindicates them *somehow*
Otherwise 'suicide by cop' or whatever. It's weak, but I can understand it. Just let it all isn't such an unreasonable idea now.

If Harris wins, what can you think is worth living for really? I don't know.
 
Do you not have friends or family? Anything nice in your life? This is what I'm talking about when I say these dudes are fucking losers.
Shut up. Of course I do. But I can understand the lows of being suicide by cop or worse. I'm not in that situation now, but the entire country is getting in very bad shape now.

I had a better life than most before Biden/Harris. A LOT of people have lost everything since. Are you better off?
 
Otherwise 'suicide by cop' or whatever. It's weak, but I can understand it. Just let it all isn't such an unreasonable idea now.

If Harris wins, what can you think is worth living for really? I don't know.
Tell me you not only do not have kids, but don't have a nephew, cousin, or friend's kid in your life, without telling me.

Anyone with an investment in the future (wanting a kid to not fucking starve to death or be burned in their sleep by mobs of frothing antifa or stabbed by cartels) stops short of this nuclear strike level destructive attitude.

Vance was really onto something...
 
Lay off the doom fellas. That shit is gay.
Doomerism can be justified only after the liberal press is able to make the 2nd 1st Presidential Debate look like a Harris victory. Which will be a Herculean task.

We literally got a Dem Presidential Candidate who is too chickenshit to even do an interview with CNN or MSNBC. Kamala’s campaign isn’t prepared for even an oz of pushback.
 
If Harris wins, what can you think is worth living for really? I don't know.
Roasting the everloving shit out of her and mocking everyone who thinks she's actually capable of any real leadership. You're welcome!

Leadership and establishment HATES being mocked, so dig deep and let them know you do not fear them.
 
Tell me you not only do not have kids, but don't have a nephew, cousin, or friend's kid in your life, without telling me.

Anyone with an investment in the future (wanting a kid to not fucking starve to death or be burned in their sleep by mobs of frothing antifa or stabbed by cartels) stops short of this nuclear strike level destructive attitude.

Vance was really onto something...
I'm not into the 'whole world' has to die. I'm saying we're heading on that path. And if we vote for that, oh well!

You people are retards, I'm saying IF we vote for that route that's how it goes.


I'm not saying the world needs to get fucked lol. I like Elon's idea of Mars exploring and so on, but if we short term vote Harris in??? It won't happen and society will fall.

You guys, get real and read.
 
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