Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[ScurvyRat]

So I am a former troon. One thing I have noticed is that troons seem to want to convert people into trooners.

Can confirm. My troon cousin was trying really hard to convince me that I was XXY chromosome aka "intersex"
This came up before he came out to me. Raised some red flags for sure.
His evidence? My high testosterone, apparently. Because it's so hard to believe that people actually walk around with 1000 ng/dL of testosterone in their blood

 

[FedPostalService]

Wife is a bit tomboyish.

Living the tomboy enjoyer dream.

 

[Paper Machete]

Women have been doing short hair styles for around 100 years now and wearing pants has also been normal for decades. Most of them not even in a fashion that comes across as anything other than feminine. Casual wear for most modern women is jeans. Skirts and dresses are for more formal events and maybe an office job, then again, a lot of office workers still wear dressy slacks too. It's wild to me there are people who go out of their way to push such severe nonsense about what is considered feminine v. masculine and which you're allowed to get up to before you start being considered "abnormal" for it.

 

[Valstrax]

Ended up finding out that a Splatoon youtuber I used to watch when I was bored trooned out, it's a shame since his videos were pretty good as background noise.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Well, there are the 'gay male' pooners who have (bareback!) penis-in-vagina sex, and who haven't yet rotted out their ovaries and uterus with wrong-sex hormones, who suddenly discover oh wait my large, female gamete fused with a male's small gamete and now there's a baby a-coming.

Since many of these pooners have been slathering or injecting exogenous testosterone during their pregnancy (and some don't even stop when they discover they are, in fact, pregnant), you may have a point - the offspring are likely to have multiple medical problems and may in fact be sterile.

Man. Reminds me of this vanilla gay girly guy I knew. He dated a dude named fucking Joe. The most gay shit you could get into. Then he slowly trooned out, ditched Joe, and got with some actual girl. "Omg I'm so happy now!" etc etc. "Oh, got your libido back?" I asked. "Uhhh, sex is more than P in V...". You just fucking know the dude was pounding pussy and loving it

Women have been doing short hair styles for around 100 years now and wearing pants has also been normal for decades. Most of them not even in a fashion that comes across as anything other than feminine. Casual wear for most modern women is jeans. Skirts and dresses are for more formal events and maybe an office job, then again, a lot of office workers still wear dressy slacks too. It's wild to me there are people who go out of their way to push such severe nonsense about what is considered feminine v. masculine and which you're allowed to get up to before you start being considered "abnormal" for it.

I feel like I'm crazy. Troons dress like stereotypes only seen in comics about young girls. Stockings, red noses, freckles, polka dot dresses, hairbands. Real women wear jeans and shirts and their hair in a ponytail. They don't wake up soaked and horny at the thought of wearing a skirt.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Wife is a bit tomboyish. She recently admitted that people online have been trying to convince her that she must be non-binary and maybe even trans, simply because she has short hair and wears trousers. She's got a stubborn streak a mile wide, so she reflexively rejects attempts by self-assumed authority figures to coerce her behaviour, but I suspect we may have interesting conversations in the future. No chance of her pooning imo, but afaik she's still at the "live and let live" point when it comes to troonery.

Which "people" on what "online"?

Even someone who is relatively psychologically sturdy is not immune to the kind of advanced psychological weaponry deployed in some of these places. I'd be especially alarmed if she's getting this shit off Reddit or Tiktok, which have really refined methods of normalizing the abnormal with bots, astroturf, and algorithms.

 

[Fapcop]

Which "people" on what "online"?

Even someone who is relatively psychologically sturdy is not immune to the kind of advanced psychological weaponry deployed in some of these places. I'd be especially alarmed if she's getting this shit off Reddit or Tiktok, which have really refined methods of normalizing the abnormal with bots, astroturf, and algorithms.

Yeah, they often come to you when you’re at your lowest. Like any cult.

You may have lost a relationship or a job or you’re a little lost. And that’s when they come with the “here’s the one fix for all your issues”-angle.

Even intelligent people are susceptible to this bullshit.

 

[Seung-Hui_Cho]

Best friend came out as a troon to me yesterday. I’m guessing some people here know what that feels like lol. Feels like I just lost him completely and now all I can see is how he’s most likely a complete coomer degen like all the other troons are and he probably was like this in private for a year or so now which just disgusts me. Can’t look at him the same way anymore and I pray to god this is just a phase or some shit lmao

 

[Poyorin]

Can’t look at him the same way anymore and I pray to god this is just a phase or some shit lmao

Don't want to 'doom post' but it's going to be difficult. I advice you to approach it cautiously and try to be supportive, but realistic with him. We have a troon friend in our group; the first year was rough and he was deep into the whole movement. The backlash he received pushed him to go deeper into it. His 'groomer' (which is what I call the asshole who got him in all of this) poisoned him into thinking no one cared or supported the 'real' him.

They had a point. We were confused by this sudden reveal, since troon friend never showed signs to lean any sort of way but straight. Troon friend was a handsome dude who went through a bad break up while losing his job too. He was down in his luck when he met the 'groomer' and isolated himself from us. When he came back with this BS, of course we were shocked by his sudden change. He called us all sort of names for not accepting it.. We thought we lost him completely.

He started to see the light when his groomer (and the other troons attached to his new friend group) dropped him out of nowhere. Left him completely alone once the damage was done. From what we found out from someone adjacent to their group; 'groomer' found someone else to 'troon out' and just was overall angry/jealous of friend looking better on the magical E (He just cleaned up, followed a skincare routine and got a better haircut ).

That seemed to help him realize who his friends really were. We do care for him, but getting him to see the lunacy of it all has been a challenging process. Like I said before, the damage is done to his body. He's lucky he has good looks on his side, but getting on HRT didn't solve anything. It aggravated it. He's not happy with the way his body looks now. His dating issues are still there. He can't find a job, because he is not happy with the way he looks and mentally this whole process fucked him up even more. It's rough on him and us. I wish I had been more understanding at the start. That I could have been there more when he just needed someone to make him feel heard and understood, but someone preyed on his vulnerabilities and left him to suffer consequences he didn't deserve.

 

[Seung-Hui_Cho]

Same thing happened to my friend, I think. He’s kind of a loner. I have other friends but he spends a lot of time on discord and I don’t use discord at all basically. My belief is that he just started talking to some troon on discord and now he’s suddenly trans as well. He is a bit of a weird guy, autistic, nerd, the usual. In a way I guess he fits the troon stereotype because what I just said can apply to every single one of them lol.

 

[Poonocchio]

Same thing happened to my friend, I think. He’s kind of a loner. I have other friends but he spends a lot of time on discord and I don’t use discord at all basically. My belief is that he just started talking to some troon on discord and now he’s suddenly trans as well. He is a bit of a weird guy, autistic, nerd, the usual. In a way I guess he fits the troon stereotype because what I just said can apply to every single one of them lol.

Unfortunately that's pretty much the guarantee for a majority of them. Follows the same path in most cases. Is there any way you can get him to hang out more? Completely offline? Maybe go out as a group of guys more regularly to some more "masculine" type hobbies?

 

[Seung-Hui_Cho]

Same thing happened to my friend, I think. He’s kind of a loner. I have other friends but he spends a lot of time on discord and I don’t use discord at all basically. My belief is that he just started talking to some troon on discord and now he’s suddenly trans as well. He is a bit of a weird guy, autistic, nerd, the usual. In a way I guess he fits the troon stereotype because what I just said can apply to every single one of them lol.

Unfortunately that's pretty much the guarantee for a majority of them. Follows the same path in most cases. Is there any way you can get him to hang out more? Completely offline? Maybe go out as a group of guys more regularly to some more "masculine" type hobbies?

I hang out with him all the time but he’s still basically the same person, not troony fully or even trying to act “girly” thankfully. All the interests we share are basically a masculine things already which makes it even harder for me to understand why he thinks he’s trans all of a sudden. Might try to see if he’ll come with me and my friend to go fishing or something, at least give him a cool life experience he wouldn’t have gotten since he’s lived most of his life inside playing video games so far lol

 

[Fapcop]

I hang out with him all the time but he’s still basically the same person, not troony fully or even trying to act “girly” thankfully. All the interests we share are basically a masculine things already which makes it even harder for me to understand why he thinks he’s trans all of a sudden. Might try to see if he’ll come with me and my friend to go fishing or something, at least give him a cool life experience he wouldn’t have gotten since he’s lived most of his life inside playing video games so far lol

Just show him some of the horror stories from here. And gently explain that he will never be a woman, and whatever he’s trying to “fix” will only get worse.

 

[FedPostalService]

Best friend came out as a troon to me yesterday. I’m guessing some people here know what that feels like lol. Feels like I just lost him completely and now all I can see is how he’s most likely a complete coomer degen like all the other troons are and he probably was like this in private for a year or so now which just disgusts me. Can’t look at him the same way anymore and I pray to god this is just a phase or some shit lmao

This is going to sound harsh but it would be best to consider your friend as dead. That‘s going to sound terrible or weird but the person you know isn’t there anymore and there is now just a perverted stranger who is just going to get worse and worse the further he goes down this path.

Don’t worry about being seen as “the bad guy” as when he inevitably gets caught with a hard drive full of CP or consent accidents some handmaiden then you get to say “I told you so.”

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I hang out with him all the time but he’s still basically the same person, not troony fully or even trying to act “girly” thankfully. All the interests we share are basically a masculine things already which makes it even harder for me to understand why he thinks he’s trans all of a sudden. Might try to see if he’ll come with me and my friend to go fishing or something, at least give him a cool life experience he wouldn’t have gotten since he’s lived most of his life inside playing video games so far lol

There's always a grace period between coming out and the eventual burning of the bridges, They always say "i am just the same person, only a she now, nothing will change" then gradually escalate and demand people play more and more into a more elaborate pantomime until they block and delete everyone and never listen to reason again.

You have the right idea that you could take some of the inbetween time to get him to touch grass and maybe give him a piece of your mind. It might not work but its the best you can do.

 

[ScurvyRat]

Same thing happened to my friend, I think. He’s kind of a loner. I have other friends but he spends a lot of time on discord and I don’t use discord at all basically. My belief is that he just started talking to some troon on discord and now he’s suddenly trans as well. He is a bit of a weird guy, autistic, nerd, the usual. In a way I guess he fits the troon stereotype because what I just said can apply to every single one of them lol.

I'd like to echo what other people said in the thread. Your friend is dead and a demon is skinwalking in his body.

Don’t worry about being seen as “the bad guy” as when he inevitably gets caught with a hard drive full of CP or consent accidents some handmaiden then you get to say “I told you so.”

This is what I had to tell my family when my cousin trooned out. They looked at me like I had 3 heads. The dude was always into loli type shit so its inevitable that he gets popped for CP later on down the line.
@Seung-Hui_Cho you know better than I do what red flags your former friend is sending up. Pay attention. When he tells you who he really is, listen to him.

 

[Lemon Squeezer]

A very good friend from uni pooned out a few years ago after we had went different ways. Classic case, dropped out of uni, started hanging with poons and troons, consumed too much of the yaoi kool-aid. Girl was a bit chub' and small. Probably looks grotesque now.
Recently I had seen she was about to get the tits schnipped. Since then has dropped from the face of the earth, deleted all socmed. Hope she didn't 41.
Truly sad shit.

 

[Aunt Carol]

You have the right idea that you could take some of the inbetween time to get him to touch grass and maybe give him a piece of your mind. It might not work but its the best you can do.

Tell him the truth: he's your friend, you worry about him, you can see that the troon in his ear is telling him everything in his life will be fixed with one "simple" solution. Creating new problems so they can "help" him more and more into their group.

And that you've seen how the next step is for him to start cutting people off. You know he'll cut you off too; it makes you sad, but you're not closing the door on him. (Not "when you realize I'm right," because that's more of the cult psychodrama.)

Keeping the rest of the friend group is harder; this kind of thing is divisive on purpose. The less you know someone, stick closer to your "concerns" and your "this is oversimplifying."

Save the "troon groomers are Pod People looking for more victims and soon our friend will just be nothing but a distorted skin suit around a shrieking alien" for face-to-face discussions.

 

[Kiislova]

I am slightly effeminate homosexual

I am this, and I thank to whatever God that I hadn't been groomed, because I was peak troon groom material.

any femme guy or tom boy will be pushed into trooning out

Have you watched the SRS surgery thread? Is all tomboys chopping their tits off.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Which "people" on what "online"?

Fuck if I know. I assume some sort of writing-related people, which means probably redditors. She said she stopped talking to them when they did it. I'm not worried about her falling for it, because like I said, she's got that stubborn streak.