Canada is a failed state

[Jetpack Himmler]

I maintain that if the People's Party had better visibility, they'd be certain to win seats across the country. Anti-immigration sentiment is surging almost in real time, and we are the only party of any stature at all, however minimal, that wants to seriously reduce immigration. Even Poilievre's recent comments in which he rather tepidly criticizes mass immigration are clearly just politicking, pandering to the increasingly large majority who want an end to mass immigration. It wasn't all that long ago that Poilievre was openly calling for illegal immigrants to be given status and promising he'd make it even easier for immigrants from countries like India to flood into Canada. Sadly, the media has gone from openly attacking the People's Party to simply ignoring it.

One of the problems is that Bernier as failed to win a seat not once, but twice, so it's getting harder to see him or PPC as contenders. They are completely right about immigration, but I hear that the party (as an organization) is a mess and Bernier sometimes comes off as butthurt over what Scheer did in 2019.

Speaking of immigration, a friend and ex-housemate sent me this video of Moose on the Loose with a clip I found intriguing.

The TL;DR is that the West is not helping the world by allowing for unchecked migration through our border and that it is also immoral on many levels. Look at this way: we are attempting to poach professionals (doctors, engineers, etc.) from poorer nations to bolster our own. Many of these professionals immigrate because of dissatisfaction with corruption and other problems that plague their countries, which gives them an out and one less agitator for reform. Now we have gotten to the point where we are essentially taking the third world's refuse that gives corrupt regimes a release valve while exporting their problems. Cheating is becoming a problem in schools because nations like India are lower trust as these immigrants assume that everyone else does it. This mentality also provides a justification in their minds for exploiting loopholes (i.e. diploma mills) and our welfare state all while transforming the host society at a fundamental level.

We are not lifting them up, but bringing ourselves down over misplaced guilt for the last few centuries and destroying the social fabric in the process.

 

[wry wrangler]

In all fairness, the PPC won more than twice as many votes nationwide in the last election as the one before it; nationwide the party received more votes than the Green Party. Granted, many of those votes may have been protest votes, as the PPC was the only party of any stature to oppose covid lockdowns. Plus, a lot of the PPC's votes were received in deep conservative ridings where the Conservative candidate won an outright majority of votes and the PPC candidate was a distant second. Still, if present trends continue then the PPC will receive around 10% of the vote in the next election, which would surely translate into some seats. You can rate me optimistic if you want, but I hope rapidly rising anti-immigration sentiment could translate into at least a seat or two.

 

[STARS158]

This could probably apply to Britain right now really

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

I don't know about you guys but I'm still planning on voting People's Party in the next election.

Either that or just voting Liberal for Acceleration

ority of votes and the PPC candidate was a distant second. Still, if present trends continue then the PPC will receive around 10% of the vote in the next election, which would surely translate into some seats. You can rate me optimistic if you want, but I hope rapidly rising anti-immigration sentiment could translate into at least a seat or two.

True if Reform could win a few seats in the UK than PPC might be able to pull off 2 seats in 2025.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

I was having an interesting conversation with a friend via text on the docility of Canadians. He's not convinced that us Leaf will ever rise up, but I believe that it is still a possibility. Our current managerial state only has a veneer of legitimacy so long as they can maintain the illusion of prosperity and stability--usually through panem et circenses. Civility is a luxury that you can afford when you can pay the mortgage and grocery bills with enough left over for your smartphone and internet connection. Cracks are beginning to show in the facade now that standard (and dare I say quality) of living is in decline. Mass migration has caused wage suppression, made affordable housing all but impossible, and pushed our welfare state to the breaking point. Crime is shooting up with law enforcement and the courts being worse than useless. We see increased homelessness and open drug use in the streets with so-called "experts" making our problems worse. This country is a pressure cooker waiting to explode.

However, I am not under the delusion that things will get better. This country is screwed beyond redemption
as is the rest of the world. Like my friend said, Trudeau and his cronies gamed the system to amass sizable fortunes for themselves. The Boomers similarly gamed the post-war order to amass sizable assets and accumulate debts that their descendants (of whom they left only the scraps) will be paying off in more than money. My view is that we are caught in a cycle as many nations and empires fell throughout the whole of human history from the Bronze Age civilizations to the Roman Republic/Empire to countless Chinese dynasties to the Soviet bloc. We are likely seeing the end of the post-World War II order that has been on life support for that last decade or two decades and is liable to flatline in the near future.

One horrifying truth I have come to realize is that living in current year Canada has become a soul-crushing experience. We have effectively turned our back on our history and traditions to embrace a culture of decadent and hedonistic nihilism where deferred gratification is an alien concept. People used to build cathedrals in medieval Europe knowing that they would never live to witness their completion whereas postmodern humanity is looking for a fleeting dopamine hit by acting indignant over the cause du jour. Meanwhile, industrialization and post-modernism reduced humans to mere cogs in a machine. No longer are we considered unique beings with out own thoughts and feelings, but economics units for an indifferent bureaucracy to exploit as it sees fit.

Call me optimistic, but I think some Leafs are catching on to how contrived and artificial the world presented to us truly is. Predicting the future is betting against God so I cannot tell what is going to happen in the coming decades though it is possible to extrapolate from what we know from history. While I remain pessimistic about the future, I find some odd solace in knowing that perhaps this is the natural course of events. Sometimes a fire is necessary to clear all the dead wood and old growth so that new life can flourish We just had the misfortunate to live in these hard times.

My apologies for if I sound semi-coherent. I've been trying to organize my thoughts for weeks now and this was the first time something gelled.

 

[PhoBingas]

Throw them in jail until their addiction goes away.

That's what my premier is talking about doing. Lots of people are pissed about it, but it's better than letting addicts run amok.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Canada lost 2.8k jobs in July. "Experts" were estimating 25k jobs created.

Unemployment did not go up

But immigration did.

Canada is "welcoming" approximately 45k "permanent" residences a month.

That in it of itself paints bleak number and clearly beneath the number of job creation.

Compounding immigration numbers from visitor visa, student visa, temporary workers visa, work permit visa, and of course, refugee claimants, Canada's real net negative job trend may be hitting 70k to 100k a month.

To surmise, Canada is projected to hit net negative job growth by a million at the end of the year.


This is not counting the youth entering the workforce or seniors coming out or going back into retirement.

Just to bring it back, so apparently the result comes from the fact that private sector lost 42k while public sector added 41k jobs.


Approximately 1 in 4 Canadians now work for the government.

Canada is going to become Greece 2.0 very....very soon.

 

[Day of the Cope]

This is fucking beyond parody.

 

[wry wrangler]

That's what my premier is talking about doing. Lots of people are pissed about it, but it's better than letting addicts run amok.

Forced medical treatment for addiction would be unconstitutional as it would violate your right to security of the person. Also addicts would still have access to drugs in prison.

 

[12345]

Honestly I'm surprised anyone is surprised that this is happening when asked about why he should be elected as Prime Minister of a country the man chose to show on television a "magic trick" that consisted of him throwing himself down a set of stairs.

And then people voted for him.

<Insert surprised Pichachuface here>

 

[Baraka Obama]

Forced medical treatment for addiction would be unconstitutional as it would violate your right to security of the person. Also addicts would still have access to drugs in prison.

Drugs are illegal. If they keep using just keep throwing them back in jail. Use the notwithstanding clause to get around the worthless piece of paper Trudeau Sr tricked the Queen into signing.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Forced medical treatment for addiction would be unconstitutional as it would violate your right to security of the person. Also addicts would still have access to drugs in prison.

They are mentally unwell and therefore unable to have agency.

 

[macrodegenerate]

That's what my premier is talking about doing. Lots of people are pissed about it, but it's better than letting addicts run amok.

Isn't your guys' schtick to just kill people now if they're becoming a drain on the system? The rest of the world hasn't taken notice yet or doesn't care, so why not get a head start and just start executing addicts who won't reform. Better to ask for forgiveness than permission. Especially when there's no consequences to your citizens not forgiving you.

 

[BeetleBug242]

There is nothing that I can add that you aren't already feeling from this video. Use the hate, anger, and rage to better yourself and others. When they try and take your hate away, unleash with a barrage of reasons systematically deconstructing everything they say. There is no way that I will ever be permitted to succeed or progress in this country. Everything I stand for, everything I act on, and every bone in my body seems to be genetically designed to hate the current system. I have made something from nothing, I beat the odds. I felt the pain, I built the house.

At any second it will, and can be stripped from me. My existence is an existential threat to the entire machine. They want people like me to suffer, to suffer psychologically, physically, and spiritually. Everything in its current design is constructed to make me blow my brains out all over the Indian shared slum lord apartments. I either flee or kill myself from the walls closing in. I know this is what the goal is. I feel it in my soul in a way no one will ever be able to remove. I have felt attacked every single step of the way. The older I got the more restrictions, critique, and punishment I saw being handed to people who have done nothing. People far less aware, people far more trusting, people just trying to do good.

Anyone who tells you this is the same, or has happened before is a fool. The world is different. No one even understands it anymore. The only thing that seems to remain constant is war. Not against dictators or brown terrorist countries. Against the human.

 

[Anti-Intellectual (AI)]

They already

Forced medical treatment for addiction would be unconstitutional as it would violate your right to security of the person. Also addicts would still have access to drugs in prison.

Drug addicts inevitably violate the rights of everyone around them, drug use is not a victimless crime as in time the user will begin to have erratic behavior at best to criminally violent at worst, to sustain their habits. Certainly they have access to drugs in prison but the logistics of it make it far more difficult, you say it as though there would be similar ease of access between prison and being free in society.
I don't believe that incarceration into a prison system is ideal for reforming drug addicts, but this idea of handling them with kiddy gloves is not working either, as one poster has mentioned, they've abdicated any sense of agency or responsibility and there needs to be a stricter response to dealing with them.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

Canada's foreign worker program called 'contemporary slavery' in new UN report​

I'm not a fan of the UN by any stretch, but I love watching lefties wince and complain that their beloved organization is setting its sights on our immigration system. Let's face in many cases it is indentured labor because we have crooked immigration agents charging 80-100K dollar LMIAs for service industry and entry level jobs. Combine that with rising cost of living and we basically have de facto slavery in this country.

 

[Never Scored]

Canada's foreign worker program called 'contemporary slavery' in new UN report​

I'm not a fan of the UN by any stretch, but I love watching lefties wince and complain that their beloved organization is setting its sights on our immigration system. Let's face in many cases it is indentured labor because we have crooked immigration agents charging 80-100K dollar LMIAs for service industry and entry level jobs. Combine that with rising cost of living and we basically have de facto slavery in this country.

I feel so vindicated. I was on Reddit and shit back in like 2013 saying that these programs suppressed wages, drove up housing, had little benefit to the average Canadian and were basically slavery and was called racist online for it. That's a downright mainstream opinion now.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Canada's foreign worker program called 'contemporary slavery' in new UN report​

I'm not a fan of the UN by any stretch, but I love watching lefties wince and complain that their beloved organization is setting its sights on our immigration system. Let's face in many cases it is indentured labor because we have crooked immigration agents charging 80-100K dollar LMIAs for service industry and entry level jobs. Combine that with rising cost of living and we basically have de facto slavery in this country.

Well, shit, I can see why all the jeets and sandniggers from Abu Dhabi is coming here. It's basically the same country.

 

[wry wrangler]

I don't disagree that the current practice of legally enabling drug use is an abysmal failure that has only increased harms for drug users and the wider society, but forced treatment isn't the answer. If you want such a program to stick in the courts, you need to amend the constitution to modify the right to security of the person. There is just no universe in which compelled medical treatment would be constitutional, except in the very limited set of circumstances in which a person poses an immediate threat to harm themselves or others (e.g. psychiatric commitment of suicidal people).

In addition to being blatantly unconstitutional, it just won't work from a medical standpoint. The only real barrier to an addict's sobriety is their own will to become sober; if an addict doesn't want to become sober there's nothing you can do to compel him to sobriety. A majority of currently addicted persons don't want to become sober, although many of them may reach that point some time in the future. Even the best treatment programs attended voluntarily only have success rates of something like 20-30% anyways. A return to emphasizing law enforcement would be a much better idea, as first contact with law enforcement has historically been one of the first steps in many addicts' road to recovery.

 

[Baraka Obama]

Canada's foreign worker program called 'contemporary slavery' in new UN report​

I'm not a fan of the UN by any stretch, but I love watching lefties wince and complain that their beloved organization is setting its sights on our immigration system. Let's face in many cases it is indentured labor because we have crooked immigration agents charging 80-100K dollar LMIAs for service industry and entry level jobs. Combine that with rising cost of living and we basically have de facto slavery in this country.

This report focuses on farm work temporary hires and I strongly disagree with the findings. Farm labour is really hard to come by in Canada, there are not enough people willing to work for minimum wage (which is already insanely high) in the middle of the countryside. So they bring in people from the Caribbean seasonally to work, most of these people are making good money for a Caribbean country and only need to work a few months in Canada to cover the rest of the year. Most of these farms have a really good relationship with their TFW and hire the same people year over year as they develop good skills.

These people aren't abusing the system to come into Canada.

As a contrast, the TFW program for low wage earners means that every Tim Hortons and Subway franchise in the country is avoiding hiring actual Canadian teenagers and instead mass importing Pajeets. This lowers wages and raises housing prices but both sides of that system are exploiting each other. The worthless UN report doesn't even care about that side.