Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

@behindyourightnow Agree with all of your points, but I believe you left an important one out: all the way to the end, Gruffin herself was a perpetuator of that very same moral injury. Not only did she refuse to renounce transgenderism as a concept, but she actively refused to acknowledge the surgeries as the cause of her ever-deteriorating health; in her most recent Instagram post she blames post-Covid or some shit.

This is very clearly a person who chose to go to hell in a handbasket, and she did everything she could to rope in other impressionable teenagers into the same ideology that destroyed her from the inside out. I've tried to feel sympathy towards her, because I know that objectively she was a victim of this bullshit, but her own behavior made it very difficult for me to regard her with anything but contempt.
 
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Also, homosexuality. Not to open another can of worms, but I suspect every young person who's trying to figure out themselves and has same-sex attraction spends some time considering "gee, it would have been better if I'd been a boy/girl instead."

Look at any adult homosexual's autobiography. We can argue about whether homos should be allowed all day, but the point is that that was kid logic, they thought about it off and on, but realized that sex was immutable and went on to be a successful talk show host or tennis player or w/e instead of falling into the immobilizing Pit of Gender.
It's literally just a normal stage that all homos go through. If a homo was born the opposite sex they could follow a path, they'd have a well trod one to follow and they could have kids and a family. Being a homo precludes you from all that, you're pretty much on your own, people who go off by themselves tend to get lost, they tend to make mistakes because there's no path to follow.
The gender delusion is an easy pit to fall in for a butch dyke or a femme faggot, it's a simple child-minded way to navigate a difficult life path (That being the case on purpose because it's kids they want to groom into the gender cult). It's a lot more difficult to accept that you are the outlier, the weirdo, the one on the side of the field watching all the other people play a ball game you don't even get the rules to.

As it turns out there are a lot of people who maliciously and otherwise want to mutilate people so their personality fits someone else's idea of acceptable for their sex. Unfortunately for those wanting absolution from their weirdness, those wanting to experiment or "fix" what's not broken, and those wanting to goon and bate to their fetishes, humans can't change sex. You are what you are and everything else is just your personality, the sooner you accept that the sooner you can just live your life and try and enjoy the time you have.
 
Got 75% through this and thought omg Iron Jaguar and I agree...and then you had to go with the usual dismissive and ignorant bullshit. No, this is not feminism's fault. God
I didn't say it was solely the fault of the Feminist movement, but denying that it played a part, however small or large, is simply dishonest.
 
That's you, projecting. Or you're a flat chested woman.

You have to admit, it's better than all that money going to unemployable niggers and Mexicans who are working cash jobs under the table. Or foreign aid.


PL but I’ve been both flat chested and massively endowed (weight loss and gain). If you are someone who has had huge tits, you generally loathe them. My own mother got a reduction as big old tits aren’t fun, she’d throw out her back once a year or so from them, they dig horrid dents in your shoulders from the bras, which are never cute, you can’t find cute clothes to wear, it gives you unwanted attention, etc.

I’m really sorry to PL so hard but as I went from slightly above normal weight to very very thin, I lost my huge boobs and I thank God every single day they’re gone. The idea of fake boobs, which can and do cause autoimmune disease and other issues, is just utterly insane to me. Plenty of men (and women, whatever you’re into, I don’t judge) will like you how you are. Accepting your body and being the best you that you can be, is truly the best thing you can do.

I’m definitely not against plastic surgery to fix ugly, but it can only do so much. My mother has had extensive plastic surgery (the PLs keeps on coming lol) she’s very beautiful but she asked her surgeon once if they could fix ugly and he said nah, look at Tori Spelling, it didn’t fix her. But it can, if you do it sensibly, make you less ugly or even average. Which is what some of these people should do.

As I was born into a very shallow, looks centric family, I get it. My grandmother taped my uncle’s ears to his head to keep them from sticking out, stuff like that. If people were honest and did what they could when they can do it, with less invasive methods, we’d all probably be happier. The worst thing ever is to tell an uggo that they’re beautiful, it’s gaslighting and cruel. FIX THE FUCKIN PROBLEM.

Like any problem, ugliness can be fixed to an extent or at least mitigated, and I think it’s your duty as a parent to be honest (not cruel) and do what you can for your kids. A stink ditch or rot pocket ain’t it. Make your kids get off the GD internet, get some exercise, appreciate their healthy bodies and what they can do, get some sun, eat healthy, know how blessed they are to BE healthy and stop this asinine bullshit delusional nonsense. Definitely don’t go along with it.

Thanks for reading my extremely tl;dr (and kinda late) take on this all.
 
Being ugly isn't the worst thing in the world, either. Sure, you'll never be Chad or Stacy, but even they will get old and gross one day, if they live long enough. Instead you can get fit and strong, study things that interest you, learn some skills, earn some money, look after your neighbourhood and the people in it, do good deeds, learn languages, take up hobbies, whatever. There's so much that you can do, not just what you look like. Tons of ugly fuckers have great lives.
 
Babysoots deathwatch status:

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Last proof of life two days ago.
Im sorry I am months behind in this thread so if this was mentioned between then and now- my bad. But after seeing that pitchfork necrosis crotch from u/babysoots and then this post, I looked up the username to see if any more post were made or not. This is still the latest post, 4 months ago now. I think you called it... I think he did 41%

Good God this shit is horrifying. So horrifying.
 
Got 75% through this and thought omg Iron Jaguar and I agree...and then you had to go with the usual dismissive and ignorant bullshit. No, this is not feminism's fault. God

Some of you ladies (and men I guess) reminds me of college communists when you point out that their ideas don’t work in practice.

You can point to countless feminists promoting gender nonsense, or blue haired, middle class chicks who push, sweep and handmaiden for trannies, but the response is always a: “OMG! NO! Feminism is not at fault!”

Just need a: “Well, they’re not ACKSHUAL feminists!”

(Now granted: It may not be the ONLY reason, but it sure as hell is a factor.)

Being ugly isn't the worst thing in the world, either.
Can you imagine if plastic surgeons started to use tranny logic?

“Do you rather want an ugly and dead child, or a mid child with breast enhancements who’s alive?!”
 
Alright time to bring back some content.
This Top surgery caught my attention. disabledqueer
She's a munchie who uses a wheelchair and walker because she has Ehler Danos Syndrome.
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Hey, everyone. I'm trans non-binary and 8 months post-op DI w/o nipple grafts, w/ a connected incision. I had surgery with Dr.Kristin Skinner in Rochester, NY. Great experience overall, especially given my more complex medical needs (psa: she accepts Medicaid).

Relevant info: I have hEDS, and I use mobility aids (rollator and manual chair, former used most during initial weeks of recovery). I have an adhesive allergy, so mesh/glue was used. I turned out to be allergic, had to use benadryl and a topical steroid. I had drains removed at 6 days due to hives. I did half-assed scar care (mainly massage to avoid adhesions) the first few months. Oh, and I was on T in 2022, but not at the time of surgery/since.

Happy to answer any/all questions, or talk about my experience. They/He, generally any terms/language accepted.
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Anyone else get reminded of dolls when they see the nipple-less top surgeries? I know there's already a connection between trannies and an obsession with dolls.
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And on r/phallo this woman who is dating a TiF is allowing us to see a TiF realizing her phallus isn't like the real thing from the girlfriends perpective. CryCurious3928
The girlfriend is a straight woman who did not know she was trans until well after they met.
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Boyfriend is acting different after his phalloplasty. What should I do?
Hey guys

I’ve (24F) been with my partner (29FTM) for about 3 years. I met him when he had already transitioned but he only had bottom surgery a year ago. Before the surgery our sex life was great and we’d have sex pretty much every day. Both of our sex drive is high and also I want him as physically close to me as possible because he’s my favourite human being in the world.

Since he’s had his surgery though he’s not as enthusiastic/ interested in sex? Idk like he treats it more like a chore than something fun for us. I selfishly love the surgery because, although strapons were fun, nothing feels as good as his penis. I'm really enjoying the sensation and just how intimate it feels compared to a strapon. However, I feel as though I'm having to initiate sex all the time when it was usually a 40/60 thing before the surgery (he would be the one initiating a lot). He did recently tell me that the sensation isn't as pleasant as it used to be for him and that it will take some time for him to adjust to it, which I completely understand, but I feel like I practically have to beg him for sex everyday.

Is it worth me taking a break if we’re not sexually compatible anymore? I love him so much but I also have such a high sex drive that I physically cannot take going long periods without it. He’s offered other solutions to help me (tmi graphic) like oral etc but I feel the most pleasure w his penis inside me. To also make it clear, I was strictly dating cis men before him and I did tell him multiple times in our relationship that I miss the sensation of hetero sex.

I don’t know if I’m being irrational. I love him and I want us to be together forever but I can’t imagine a future where I constantly have to initiate and beg for sex? He reassures me and tells me that he still loves me and that it’s just the surgery but I’m honestly starting to feel unloved.
I was strictly dating cis men before him and I did tell him multiple times in our relationship that I miss the sensation of hetero sex.
This particular phrasing really pissed off the TiFs.
Your (multiple) comments of “missing hetero sex” is probably messing with his head… that’s a pretty rude thing to say to a partner, especially one going through transition and surgeries. Bottom surgery leaves someone the most vulnerable they’ll ever probably be, and every little comment can have long lasting effects. It’s not easy to be confident and happy with your body especially after surgery. It’s major, and with all the wound care and pain and recovery it can take a lot of time mentally to be confident or even comfortable using things with a partner. Not to mention the physical effects which take a long time to sort out (sensation, any residual discomfort, etc)

This sounds better suited for couples therapy. You shouldn’t ask us if you should take a break, that’s on you to decide. But I think “taking a break” because you’re not getting sex is pointless, just break up if you’re going to be like that.

You say you “completely understand” but then that you “practically have to beg for sex every day”…that doesn’t sound very understanding to me. I think you need to just masturbate and take care of yourself. It’s not that hard. You make it sound like you’re going to die without sex, and it does sound irrational from this post.

Do you think this is a forever issue? Or do you think you both can overcome it? Again, something to work out with each other and possibly in the setting of couples therapy so you both can talk freely and get to the core of the issues. It sounds like your partner is dealing with a lot and you pushing him to do things he’s not comfortable with isn’t helping the situation.

He's a man, you're a woman, so fyi you are having hetero sex. Regardless it's pretty rude, especially in this situation, to say you miss the sensation of your previous partners.

He's only had phallo a year ago? How many stages? Is he even finished with surgeries? This is a physically intense surgical procedure and recovery (physical and emotional) can take a while. If you truly need PIV more than your partner is comfortable with currently don't frame it as "a break," just go your separate ways. I remember being 24 and horny but not being up for PIV doesn't mean he doesn't love or desire you. If you don't like begging for sex then don't, either let him initiate (communicating this so the reason for the change is apparent) or decide to move on

Telling a man you, a woman are having sex with that you miss hetero sex is a dick move. You were having hetero sex even if his dick was a prosthetic at the time. He’s still healing, he’s likely still regaining sensation in his penis. I think if you want to salvage this relationship you need to understand that those comments probably deeply hurt him. I’d also suggest couples counseling or having some Sincere communication with him about how He is doing right now. And if he’s not up for PIV right now and that’s a big deal for you? Just end it

I'm sorry but I know I wouldn't be able to move on with my girlfriend if she would have said that she missed heterosex..😕

This is quite toxic and selfish from you. This path he's going through is a massive life changing experience which needs time to recover from physically and mentally even without a relationships circumstances. He's getting to know a completely new body part from 0. And he had have 1 year of recovery as you said in the comments. Do you actually have any idea how long it takes to grow nerves. Also it's not guaranteed, that he will have a sensation as he wishes for. Like at all. Some transmen are only able to have orgasm with more the mindset as by the sensation alone. Some aren't able to have orgasms at all. If you're not able to deal with that, you should seriously think about breaking up as your act of love you feel for him. Because the things you wrote that you told him, are surely hurting and damaging him in long term. Especially with making the difference between born men and him. In the end you shouldn't make him feel guilty for not being able to give you what you need - a penis - as you said. To hear this would be fatal to me and I deeply hope it isn't for him.

Your post reads as though you view cis and trans men differently. A lot of people are going to take that to mean you are a chaser, because that’s usually the reason why people see them different. See: “I miss the sensation of hetero sex” (which you already are and ALREADY WERE having). The lines blur very easily. This requires an in-depth discussion with you and your boyfriend, and I hope both of you get individual therapy and couple’s counseling.

Always funny to see them antagonize the very people who are actually accommodating. This woman will walk away from this post with a much more negative view of Transpeople. And when she finally breaks up with the pooner she's gonna avoid all transmen. You must be 100% accommodating or you're a terf.
 
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I wanted a mullet, but now I don't feel safe expressing my opinions online.
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I would bet Gruffin’s opiate addiction was as much social contagion as the pooning out was. All the cool kids are doing it, and bragging in their discord about pill parties, so she had to as well. Same as all the illness faking, transing etc.
That's a good point. Really, I can't decide if it would make her a better or worse candidate for surgery.

And on r/phallo this woman who is dating a TiF is allowing us to see a TiF realizing her phallus isn't like the real thing from the girlfriends perpective. CryCurious3928
The girlfriend is a straight woman who did not know she was trans until well after they met.
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This one should just put a billboard outside her "boyfriend's" house that says "HONEY, I HAVE A CLUSTER B PERSONALITY DISORDER". It would be much faster and more efficient than explaining all...this shit.
 
This pisses me off. She obviously uses the farms for all her content (update about parents after @Larry David's Opera Cape posted here, for example), but she takes all the credit.

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I got some interesting news.
Anyone remember TentacleDick a.k.a. Gruffin? Of Exulansic's Phalloplasty files fame? (link)
exulansic has done a lot of original work in this field, her Odysee channel hosts a lot of he videos from her earliest you tube channel. You can see her original documentation there
 
There's a kind of deep frustration and horror that you get watching all the institutions and people around you cheer on evil and being essentially powerless to stop it
This. This nails it for me and it’s not just stuff like the tranny nonsense. You know it’s bad, you know people are going to get screwed over and hurt and they’ll call you an alt-right bigot fascist as they do it if you speak up.

It’s a bit surreal watching TERF Twitter talk about Griffin now she is dead. A part of me is glad people are finding out and another part feels like they’re just vultures. I guess it’s the awh poor liddle lady was just confused and needed help some are spinning that I find distasteful.
You can point to countless feminists promoting gender nonsense, or blue haired, middle class chicks who push, sweep and handmaiden for trannies, but the response is always a: “OMG! NO! Feminism is not at fault!”
The problem here is that feminism is a very nebulous thing and easy to blame. Anyone can say they are one and they all (crude analogy here) belong to different camps that want different (and often competing) things and often fight amongst themselves (again, see TERF Twitter). All feminists get tarred for the actions of a subset and the rest push back whilst the guilty ones double down. This isn’t unique to feminists.

@batteredpancakes a munchie pooner! My favourite. I especially love it when they accidentally (start to) peak an ally.

Edit: @Croctopus she has a thread here, just search her name
 
You say you “completely understand” but then that you “practically have to beg for sex every day”…that doesn’t sound very understanding to me. I think you need to just masturbate and take care of yourself. It’s not that hard. You make it sound like you’re going to die without sex, and it does sound irrational from this post.
LOLOLOLOL!!!

Holy shit these chicks are really terrible at LARPing as men! Fuck, the chick who’s supposed to be married with a “man” sounds more like a dude than these pooners.

You can only lie to yourself so much.

Deep down inside, these chicks KNOW that they’re not men and that nobody sees them as such. But they still HATE being reminded of it.
 
a proper team for this kind of surgery would be a urologist, a plastic surgeon, a neurologist, anesthesiology, psychiatry, orthopedics, and physical therapists as well as a dedicated wound care and follow-up team.
I've never thought about that - is there a different setup when it's a "real" surgery and not extra special lifesaving Gender Affirming Care(tm)? I would hope so.

Since there are no pictures of her actually being anything other than overweight, I'll assume it was bulimia or binge eating disorder
I'm going to assume she was full of shit. She might have truly believed she had an ED or she might have been deliberately lying, but everything this girl posted screamed "boring, lower-class straight white girl" and she was desperately clawing for anything to make her seem compelling after the Who's A Big Strong Boy energy wore off. She saw someone else claim and ED and a drug addiction and knew nobody could (or would care enough to) call her out and say she was lying.

That, or she felt bad and weird about being a fatass and decided that feeling bad and weird was the same as having an eating disorder. Her saying "disordered eating" and not "an eating disorder" is telling.

Most pooners can only dream of that.
Most pooners can only dream of this woman's entire life. 6'1, almost passes, and clearly comes from money - her "job" is nonsense quasi-hick art, horses are expensive, and she schedules her surgeries around her travel and summer fun. The Gofundme-begging broke white trash on r/phallo are seething with jealousy.

There's no way, and the fact that she claims as much destroys whatever credibility she might have had.
Yeah, @Fapcop nailed it and said everything I wanted to before I could finish the thread. Sure, she could've gotten into grandma's percocets, but an opioid addiction is one hell of a monkey on your back and that bitch plans on staying. If she'd been an opioid addict, she would have died of an overdose a lot sooner than this, whether from her own prescriptions or from hitting up old friends when she realized her painkillers weren't going to cut it.
 
Spoilering both of my replies bc is OT, and also: I always appreciate a discussion/ debate, but if this is spiraling to some kind of positional disagreement, I'm not really feeling it. I trust that thoughtful people will consider perspectives.

Maybe I am not looking in the right forums to see this- it's a big board. But while I see plenty of what might get characterized as sexism or misogyny (fairly or unfairly) that particular tic is not one I see here on anything like a regular basis. I see thot and related behavioral terms a lot more than any kind of anatomical reductionism. That strikes me as fair enough as it goes- no one can help having holes (except persons of stinkditch) but anyone can choose to be or not be a hoe, thot, or trollop.

And I see a kind of board immune system activate to bully the irritant into silence when someone gets carried away and starts sounding like some twitter redpill homo. But maybe this stuff is going on in a corner I never look in.
Well, I'm on mobile so my searching is a slog. And for one thread with a some examples, I'm unable to quote so I saved a couple but now cannot remember how to access my saved comments (stress sigh).

But in addition to the couple of examples below, if you search Shut up hole you'll get some more.
Shut up hole
Hit the gym
This reminds me of my shorthand for women in general: "holes"
Hole alert
Links to one particular thread:

Post in thread 'Official Kiwifarms Woman-Hate Thread'
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/official-kiwifarms-woman-hate-thread.169356/post-16808986

Post in thread 'Official Kiwifarms Woman-Hate Thread'
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/official-kiwifarms-woman-hate-thread.169356/post-16808989

Post in thread 'Official Kiwifarms Woman-Hate Thread'
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/official-kiwifarms-woman-hate-thread.169356/post-16803510

Post in thread 'Official Kiwifarms Woman-Hate Thread'
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/official-kiwifarms-woman-hate-thread.169356/post-16808949

Post in thread 'Official Kiwifarms Woman-Hate Thread'
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/official-kiwifarms-woman-hate-thread.169356/post-18846787

Post in thread 'Official Kiwifarms Woman-Hate Thread'
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/official-kiwifarms-woman-hate-thread.169356/post-18259845

Again, I do not have time or patience to point anyone to more examples. But I will say that I don't recall hearing that term used to refer to an entire woman more than a handful of times before Current Day (tm) - and never irl. And it's often enough here that it registered with me, someone not particularly naive nor sensitive nor unused to or avoiding of crude spaces. And it's not unique to here at all, but it is used far more "these days" than I've ever observed - and I have a fairly long history to refer to.

(Now granted: It may not be the ONLY reason, but it sure as hell is a factor.)

What's feminism a response to?

Not trying to be an asshole. But there would be no need for "feminism" (or at least 99% of the varieties) if women had not been historically formally designated, and currently informally+ designated, as something less than human and/or a tool fit only for a specific purpose.
 
Spoilering both of my replies bc is OT
All I can say is if you click on "official womanhate thread" you can't claim to be surprised by what you find in there.

I'm sure there's vile stuff in the official manhate thread too. Not going to check because I don't care. Both of those threads are like the internet version of a 72 hour hold.
 
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