Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Nah I had a doc who I think was genuinely autistic (she could have been high or massively sleep deprived I suppose).

She just didn't pick up on basic social queues it was an impossibly awkward interaction, she made me that uncomfortable I never went to the follow up appointment.
She was more likely high/sleep deprived. But what I hate most about the austism rights movement is the number of assholes claiming to be autistic, so you have to celebrate their asshole behavior or be a bigot.
 
know of a visual example of a female nullo. A psycho called psychedelic666
She explains it well in her transbucket post. Only the clitoral nerve is left but they can keep their ovaries if they want.
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Nullo creeps me the fuck out, maybe more so than the others. You just know a shit ton of these people have been through sexual abuse and that’s why they’re doing it.
 
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See, that's how you view yourselves and your traditional roles. "Being a woman means degrading drudgery and unpaid concubinage. We're no more than ambulatory Fleshlights and child minders."

Normal men do not think of women that way, and never have. You continually project your own self-loathing onto men, then say it's our fault.
On reflection, this is probably why women are so prone to Pooning Out: you hate yourselves.

Nope. I love myself, and I love being a woman. I am also a professional (and mother) and don't consider either of those situations to be drudgery. Never felt that being a woman = fleshlight or concubine.

But how I feel and how I am in the world is different than a macro understanding of how repeated messages (nevermind formal policies and mores, etc.) can be debasing to a population at large.

If it's necessary to you to make things personal or if you find separating the individual from gross trends an impossible chasm to bridge, then we probably can't have a reasonable discussion. Unfortunate, but acknowledged.

See this is why it doesn't pay to be nice in the gender wars- you set me up with this "either you cosign my assertion that the men of KF are going around calling women holes constantly, and sincerely thinking of them as such, or, alternatively, you don't really think it's a bad term at all."

I stand by my original position- it's not the norm here, all kinds of outlying speech and views are by the nature of the place tolerated here, and purposely seeking out the worst of "the other" to roll around in it like a dog in a 2 day roadkill finding is not good for anyone.

Now I am not engaging with this anymore- done.
As you wish.

But since I hit a nerve, which was not my intention: I know there are good men here and everywhere, and I've never suggested otherwise. I understand it is difficult to talk about general/macro things without it feeling personal. If you took my comments as personally directed, then I suppose I did not express myself carefully enough to diffuse that possibility, though to be frank I don't think, "well, for example, this is one example of a thing that could burrow into an impressionable young person's brain that might add to their confusion and concern" is a particularly inflammatory thing to reference. Ymmv.

That said, I think it is important to be able to acknowledge that there may be reasons that some people develop poor senses of self, and not all of it is internally generated. If that's a non-starter, then it is.

I know of a visual example of a female nullo. A psycho called psychedelic666
She explains it well in her transbucket post. Only the clitoral nerve is left but they can keep their ovaries if they want.
I don't even understand this. How is this any "better"? She's still very clearly female, both visually and functionally. I guess I'd assumed that somehow they'd graft over everything so there was not even a center line [I'm not wise in the ways of plastic or other surgery ok]. This just looks like an immature female, sort of. Yuck. Makes it look more fetishistic than anything.
 
She's still very clearly female, both visually and functionally.
Comparing the male and female nullos makes it obvious how the male and female pelvises are shaped differently, even without the external genitalia. It's yet another thing that contributes to the wrongness of the ordinary trans "bottom" surgeries.
 
Poor poor Gruffin .. I’m so sad about her. She was unable to see where this all left her .. careering from one surgery / complication to the next with no intellect to see where this was really going. I can’t help but wonder at what point she could have stopped it all and survived. Also I have to mention what a terrible voice Glinner is in all this. There are so few voices that can actually explain what’s going on, Helen Joyce is pretty good. Glinner is too angry /emotional, unable to clarify the multifaceted nature of all this. It’s so complex and he just really muddies the waters for people that know nothing about it but obviously need to. Whenever he is invited to speak from what I have seen he just gets very sweaty, upset and cannot express what needs to be understood by people that still don’t know what’s going on. It’s obvious his heart is in the right place but he should move aside for someone with more abilities and understanding. It’s too deep of a subject.. imagine if you knew nothing and he was where you started ! This needs to be expressed in a smarter way, for the completely ignorant there needs to be the ABC of what’s been happening. Really frustrating.
 
I wish people understood "poor bedside manner" usually means "psychopath" and not "awkward autist." There's no such doctor as Dr. House. There's no asshole with a heart of gold. If a doctor is arrogant and rude, it's because he doesn't like you, and doesn't have your best interests at heart. If the doctor is rude, run.
TBF: When it comes to doctors who deals with troons, I’d expect that “poor bedside manner” is just either:

A: The doctor didn’t sufficiently play along with the crazy. Or:

B: It’s a side effect of dealing with too many troons scratching about NEEDING their vagina to squirt, and pooners complaining about how it’s fascist that they don’t operate on chicks with a BMI of 40.
 
It doesn't really make sense that troons are allowed "gender affirming surgeries" on insurances and taxpayers dime but normal people aren't. If you're just a really manly looking woman, how is it less "gender affirming" for you to get feminization surgery than it is for a man? It affects their life just as much as it does the troon, probably even more given how many troons seem to be fine until they decide they're trans and then suddenly "need" a boatload of surgeries. Compare that to getting called man face your entire life.
Overly masculinised women or pear shaped men often have hormone problems, I would much rather my taxes go into getting manface Molly a browridge shave than pay for one single cross-sex hormone pill. One of those might actually do some good and lift poor Molly's spirits and give her some confidence. It's not her fault she has a hormone problem.
 
Insufferable to the last, eh? - That's totally on-brand.


You misunderstood the post. What he/she meant was that Pooners will try to retcon the cause of Gruffin's death.
Her insufferable nature makes me glad she's gone, TBH. No, I do not think she "deserved" to die, but I'm certainly not mourning her loss. I do wonder if her parents and living grandmother feel some measure of relief as well and are kicking themselves for it. Let's face it; her health has been in serious decline for a number of years, and I can guarantee you that the "talk" of what would happen to Gruffin and who would care for her as she got more and more infirm was brought up amongst her relatives. Her mother is elderly and looks to be in bad health herself; Gruffin ought to have been her support instead of the other way around. The father was remarried and I doubt his new wife would have liked to be saddled with a useless pooner potato care package.

The way she was gleefully and smugly boasting(!) about the enormous cost of her rotdog surgeries made me realize "Gruffin" was a truly ugly human being inside and out.

Everyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, here's a link to a prior post from 2022 chronicling Exulansic's "Phalloplasty philes" videos about Gruffin. Truly, I recommend everyone who hasn't already seen them to check them out. Even if you can't stand Exulansic, they're still worth a watch.
 
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I wish people understood "poor bedside manner" usually means "psychopath" and not "awkward autist."
This is way too broad. Sure, the medical profession has more than its share of narcissists and sociopaths but bear in mind that Doctors and nurses also see way too many losers, junkies, fatties, liars and general shitbags than a Normie would, and they get jaded. The same thing happens with cops, paramedics, prison officers and public defenders.
 
Peaches, I get what you're saying. It's probably all true.

But that's all the more reason to hate these fucking doctors. An elderly woman had to care for an invalid before finally burying her. I'm sure the step-mom is helping everybody grieve while swinging by the salon to get her hairs did and get a mannie/pedi as a treat.

It's still awful to lose a kid, though. I knew one woman whose son was a mistake. He was a complete shit bag. Watching how he treated her would make anyone pro-choice. She absolutely should have picked abortion. She even bitterly confessed to me that it was hard to love him, and I totally understood why. Well, he died, and she was still distraught. Like, this guy dying was definitely helpful to a lot of people. It destroyed his mom anyway.

Since I'm not a believer in free will, I think Griffin might have been better has she not been pumped with testosterone. That is KNOWN for turning women into angry assholes. That crap scrambles your brain the way booze and other drugs would. Most people aren't their best selves on it.

Griffin must have been an awful teenager, and she sort of stayed a teenager into her mid-20's, even as she was dying.

So her parents get to grieve AND feel guilty that they're kind of relieved. They get to add that to the guilt of their obvious failures in their parenting.
 
Update (lemme know if you’re tired of my Xitter addiction): 1,7 million views.

Oh God, there's a good chance this might hit the mainstream, isn't there? That's what I dread the most, the articles by the ever-present swarm of media enforcers stepping in to re-educate us all.

This Young Person's Kidneys Rotted After Their Phalloplasty Surgery and They Died in Agony. Here's Why That's a Good Thing.
 
Oh God, there's a good chance this might hit the mainstream, isn't there? That's what I dread the most, the articles by the ever-present swarm of media enforcers stepping in to re-educate us all.

This Young Person's Kidneys Rotted After Their Phalloplasty Surgery and They Died in Agony. Here's Why That's a Good Thing.
"Griffin had a pre-existing condition that killed him, it wasn't the phalloplasty itself!" Yeah, Griffin was prone to blood clots through her genetic information. Which is why the doctor should have looked at her medical history and said no. This surgery shouldn't be performed on anybody anyway, but it seems like they don't disqualify anyone for any reason.
 
Oh God, there's a good chance this might hit the mainstream, isn't there? That's what I dread the most, the articles by the ever-present swarm of media enforcers stepping in to re-educate us all.

This Young Person's Kidneys Rotted After Their Phalloplasty Surgery and They Died in Agony. Here's Why That's a Good Thing.
I'll bet you anything they'll blame the lupus, OR frame it as some freak medical occurrence like that woman who contracted flesh-eating bacteria from stepping on a seashell.
 
Also this though. But also, I am starting to wonder if elective masectomies are something of a scam, like troon surgeries. One of my favorite lolcows got one, and it was clearly just for attention and not medically necessary.
I always point out, you don't see the equivalent marketed to men. They market this idea to women that you are better of "preventively" lopping off your boobs and uterus. No one goes around telling men "well your uncle had ball cancer, time for a castration procedure- it's easier now than when the cancer is there! And you can just take replacement T!"

Same with breast reductions. There was a phase where every decently stacked girl was told she "needed" one (but only if she was middle class with decent insurance, somehow). Medical industry making hay from women's anxieties. No conscience and as we see, no line they won't cross.

Her insufferable nature makes me glad she's gone, TBH. No, I do not think she "deserved" to die, but I'm certainly not mourning her loss. I do wonder if her parents and living grandmother feel some measure of relief as well and are kicking themselves for it.
Again to cite the drug analogy, it's like the death of a big time addict who also dragged down friends and family. Got the younger brother hooked. Had a friend OD on his watch. You sigh for a minute, thinking of the innocent baby boy some mother once held. Then you think of the human toll of his soulless compulsion, the others who were ruined through his selfishness, and shrug.

Oh God, there's a good chance this might hit the mainstream, isn't there? That's what I dread the most, the articles by the ever-present swarm of media enforcers stepping in to re-educate us all.

This Young Person's Kidneys Rotted After Their Phalloplasty Surgery and They Died in Agony. Here's Why That's a Good Thing.
And lupus is sitting right there for some smug waste of skin "expert" to point at. "Well AKSHUALLY, many people with lupus have kidney issues." Problem solved for the troon docs.

Considering there is some wiggle room and discretion involved in diagnosing lupus, it almost makes you wonder if some of the "care team" was eager to find an alternate hypothesis to blame this big flub on.
 
I don't know if anyone has picked up on this (taken from the Twitter thread @Zemblan Physics posted)

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Working and living through the trauma I was suppressing for over a decade while recovering from surgery after surgery and dealing with suicidal thoughts was one of the hardest things I've ever done and I'm still struggling but I'm pulling through

That was posted at the end of 2021, when Griffin/Makayla would have been 22. So if it's true and she had been suppressing trauma for over a decade, she is talking about something happened when she was around 11 or 12. Only a year or two before she suddenly decided she was a boy and socially transitioned.

So, like Nex Benedict, we most likely have another example of a little girl who was sexually abused as a preteen, and was then told by trusted adults: "Don't worry, the fear and disgust and confusion you feel after being abused is due to a completely coincidental case of being born in the wrong body! Let's ignore the real source of your issues and encourage you to live the rest of your life in a state of permanent denial and dissociation." Life-saving care, everyone.
 
Same with breast reductions. There was a phase where every decently stacked girl was told she "needed" one (but only if she was middle class with decent insurance, somehow). Medical industry making hay from women's anxieties. No conscience and as we see, no line they won't cross.
I remember when there was a huge push for it in the mid 2010s, and while there are definitely women ferrying around a wheelbarrow of titty who need one and should be able to get one on the public dime as a matter preventative healthcare, they were pushing it on any woman with a full C, yet at no point did anyone talk about strengthening shoulder and back muscles. As much as I believe it's money motivated in the US, these things also come to Europe as fads.

I think it's also why the tranny madness isn't as bad here, because it's not a money maker it's a money sink. What we are dealing with is purely ideological.
 
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