EU Founder and CEO of encrypted messenger Telegram questioned in France - Telegram founder Pavel Durov detained on arriving in France from Azerbaijan. shit is VERY BAD

https://www.tf1info.fr/justice-fait...ee-telegram-interpelle-en-france-2316072.html ( archived https://archive.ph/edvkC )

Pavel Durov, the founder and CEO of the encrypted messaging Telegram, was arrested around 8 p.m. this Saturday evening when he got off his private jet on the Tarmac of Bourget Airport. This 39-year-old, this Franco-Russian was accompanied by her bodyguard and a woman.

The arrest was carried out by the gendarmes of the GTA (gendarmerie of air transport). Boarded at the FPR (File of Les Persons sought), Pavel Durov arrived straight from Azerbaijan. Above the head he had a French research mandate issued by the OFMIN of the National Directorate of the French Judicial Police issued on the basis of a preliminary investigation.
Why was he under the threat of a research mandate?
Justice considers that the absence of moderation, cooperation with the police and the tools proposed by Telegram (disposable number, cryptocurrencies ...) makes it accomplice of drug trafficking, pedocriminal offenses and scam.

This research mandate ran if, and only if, Pavel Durov was on the national territory. "He committed a dumpling tonight. We don't know why ... was this flight only a step? In any case, he is boxed!", Slips a source close to the investigation at TF1/ LCI. Since he had known himself persona non grata in France, Pavel Durov used to travel to the Emirates, in the countries of the ex-USSR, in South America ... He traveled very little in Europe and avoided the countries where Telegram is under surveillance.

And now ?
Investigators of the ONAF (National Antifraude Office attached to the Customs Department) notified him and placed him in police custody. It should be presented to an investigating judge this Saturday evening before a possible indictment on Sunday for a multitude of offenses: terrorism, narcotics, complicity, fraud, laundering, concealment, pedocriminal content ...

"Pavel Durov will end up in pre -trial detention, for sure," comments an investigator from TF1/LCI. "On his platform, he suggested an incalculable number of crimes and crimes for which he does nothing to moderate or cooperate," analyzes a source close to the file.

His pre -trial detention at the end of his indictment is in fact no doubt. Pavel Durov, a billionaire, has substantial means for fleeing and its guarantees of representation will hardly convince the judges.

A draft to international resonance
For investigators, this draft with international resonance with various objectives. First, it allows you to kick the anthill, impress and dissuade the authors of crimes and crimes which, so far freely, on Telegram. Then, they aim to put pressure on European countries to accentuate the common work to bend the encrypted messaging on terrorist files.

Indeed, Telegram is a hive for criminal content. At the moment, the platform is making the news with the illegal broadcast of Ligue 1. matches but on this encrypted messaging, many accounts are used by organized crime. Beyond terrorism, the most dangerous pedocriminals communicate on Telegram to exchange content. "For years it has become the number 1 platform for organized crime," comments an investigator.

 

[deadtofaunus]

To be fair, Telegram has very poor and (intentionally?) finicky moderation and tools, not just for governments but also for regular people/admins/scam victims, on top of poor opsec.

Which still does not justify criminal prosecution in any way.

 

[AmpleApricots]

What a curious timing with the attacks in france and germany. Somebody was finally let loose to do as they want it seems. Wonder how they managed to trick him into france.

 

[Sneed S. McSneedensen]

Don't laugh too hard Americans,
This will be the standard in the states soon enough.

I would literally firebomb my government if they tried that shit.

In real life.

 

[WhatIsThePunchline]

What I don't understand with this arrest is that say, a paedophile sent horrific images through the post, to their network. The Royal Mail wouldn't be held accountable for not opening the envelope and intercepting it.

The rationale is just an excuse.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

Lol, fuck the French.
Nobody likes them.

They're like the USA of Europe.

 

[MushroomPizzaEnthusiast88]

God I fucking hate France

 

[Soyjack Pinhead]

Don't laugh too hard Americans,
This will be the standard in the states soon enough.

If only you knew how bad things will be after Harris wins.

 

[Preacher ✝]

Hard to feel bad for the guy when all he had to do was not fly his private jet to France.

I've been avoiding France my whole life without even trying.

 

[MeltyTW]

aka you can criticize actual terrorism and child rape happening via migrants on telegram and france sees an easy opportunity to shut down critics of its agenda while pretending it fights real terrorism

 

[Disaffected Coyote]

Fucking faggot frogs. The US never should have saved you from the Germans. Suffer fags

 

[Inspector Rex]

Fucking cunts.

This is a caution tale for future "refugees" from Russia who have made them name the way Pavel have done.

Garbage opinion. It's not like he could stay in Russia and deal with Telegram how he dealt with it previously. The main takeaway here is that you should roundkick glowies into the concrete, regardless of the country they "protect"

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

The French are as bad as the English.

6 of my colleagues were arrested a gunpoint in Paris a few weeks ago, they were denied access to lawyers, phone calls, were threatened with prolonged periods in custody, denied food and drink and the women were subjected to strip searches. What had they done?

Had a bus protesting the Opening Ceremony of the Olympics.

https://premierchristian.news/en/ne...ers-arrested-paris-over-olympic-ceremony-demo

What I don't understand with this arrest is that say, a paedophile sent horrific images through the post, to their network. The Royal Mail wouldn't be held accountable for not opening the envelope and intercepting it.

The mistake you are making is to try and hold them to the same standards they hold you to.

The actions of the state are justified by being the actions of the state, nothing a state actor does can be bad because it is inherently good as being an action of the state. It doesn't matter if you are in the right, the state has a monopoly on violence and political power flows from the barrel of the gun.

It doesn't matter if you have done anything objectively bad, all that matters is that you have committed heresy against the new orthodoxy of a size 12 rhinestoned stiletto stamping on a human face, forever.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Don't laugh too hard Americans,
This will be the standard in the states soon enough.

See:

So they charged him not for enabling the alleged crimes but for causing them due to lack of moderation? Fucked up, man, fucked up.

I think that Section 230 protects American sites at the moment. However, I also think that pineapple with ham on pizza is delicious, so I may be retarded.

 

[The Bunk]

В свое время Паша уехал из России искать лучшей жизни.
Доехал, хуле.

This is a caution tale for future "refugees" from Russia who have made them name the way Pavel have done. Not to shit on men's abilities and knowledge, determination to make his life a better one, but he should've known better that one day his platform would cause a serious ruse and that returning back to the Motherland will be at the menu, whenever he like it or not.
And so you have it. Arrested by snail gurglers. Must be very embarassing. On the other hand, praise not get jailed by bri*ish.

My drug, I really don't want to shit this thread with Slav politsperging, but Russia is not exactly a beacon of free speech and individual liberty.

 

[Balr0g]

As Musk said "Go fuck yourself"

 

[Drive-By Comment]

So is the case that cops don't have access to Telegram groups, unless they get access through a member of a group?
If that is the case, sure it will cause problem in about every country.

*I actually assume Telegram is co-operative with US authorities as they have not gone down.

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

See:

I think that Section 230 protects American sites at the moment. However, I also think that pineapple with ham on pizza is delicious, so I may be retarded.

It will protect them in so far that Americans do not physically find themselves in Europe.

Europe (and the UK) generally accept the idea that they have a right to prosecute incidents they deem crimes that happen outside their borders. Hence why the UK was reported to be making attempts to extradite Americans it knows will be rejected, but will still undertake anyway.

This guy made the error of crossing into Europe. Anyone who finds their way into European territory who doesn't play nice with the European leadership apparently might likewise find their schedule...Adjusted.

 

[Major Discord]

Whatever happens in this particular case, I think this shows the general tendency that any centralized service cannot be trusted and it's not "the future". I think as we go down this road everyone will find decentralized services more and more appealing.

P.S. Everyone shilling Signal should understand that it is a fully centralized messenger and thus a bad idea.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

>people think that the French actually value Liberté, Égalité, and Fraternité

The lesson of the French Revolution and the Paris Commune is that Europeans can’t have nice things. The only thing they are allowed to have is shitty healthcare systems they gaslight themselves into worshiping and a boot on their throat.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

, a telegram account is like 50 cents on grey markets

how would someone buy one of those isn't it linked like facebook or appleid?