Disaster NASA Decides to Bring Starliner Spacecraft Back to Earth Without Crew - The astronauts are still trapped in space

Jessica Taveau
AUG 24, 2024

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NASA Administrator Bill Nelson and leadership host a live news conference on Saturday, Aug. 24 at the agency’s Johnson Space Center in Houston to give a status update about NASA’s Boeing Crew Flight Test.
Credit: NASA


NASA will return Boeing’s Starliner to Earth without astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams aboard the spacecraft, the agency announced Saturday. The uncrewed return allows NASA and Boeing to continue gathering testing data on Starliner during its upcoming flight home, while also not accepting more risk than necessary for its crew.

Wilmore and Williams, who flew to the International Space Station in June aboard NASA’s Boeing Crew Flight Test, have been busy supporting station research, maintenance, and Starliner system testing and data analysis, among other activities.

“Spaceflight is risky, even at its safest and most routine. A test flight, by nature, is neither safe, nor routine. The decision to keep Butch and Suni aboard the International Space Station and bring Boeing’s Starliner home uncrewed is the result of our commitment to safety: our core value and our North Star,” said NASA Administrator Bill Nelson. “I’m grateful to both the NASA and Boeing teams for all their incredible and detailed work.”

Wilmore and Williams will continue their work formally as part of the Expedition 71/72 crew through February 2025. They will fly home aboard a Dragon spacecraft with two other crew members assigned to the agency’s SpaceX Crew-9 mission. Starliner is expected to depart from the space station and make a safe, controlled autonomous re-entry and landing in early September.

NASA and Boeing identified helium leaks and experienced issues with the spacecraft reaction control thrusters on June 6 as Starliner approached the space station. Since then, engineering teams have completed a significant amount of work, including reviewing a collection of data, conducting flight and ground testing, hosting independent reviews with agency propulsion experts, and developing various return contingency plans. The uncertainty and lack of expert concurrence does not meet the agency’s safety and performance requirements for human spaceflight, thus prompting NASA leadership to move the astronauts to the Crew-9 mission.

“Decisions like this are never easy, but I want to commend our NASA and Boeing teams for their thorough analysis, transparent discussions, and focus on safety during the Crew Flight Test,” said Ken Bowersox, associate administrator for NASA’s Space Operations Mission Directorate. “We’ve learned a lot about the spacecraft during its journey to the station and its docked operations. We also will continue to gather more data about Starliner during the uncrewed return and improve the system for future flights to the space station.”

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NASA’s Boeing Crew Flight Test astronauts (from top) Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams pose on June 13, 2024 for a portrait inside the vestibule between the forward port on the International Space Station’s Harmony module and Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft.
Credit: NASA


Starliner is designed to operate autonomously and previously completed two uncrewed flights. NASA and Boeing will work together to adjust end-of-mission planning and Starliner’s systems to set up for the uncrewed return in the coming weeks. Starliner must return to Earth before the Crew-9 mission launches to ensure a docking port is available on station.

“Starliner is a very capable spacecraft and, ultimately, this comes down to needing a higher level of certainty to perform a crewed return,” said Steve Stich, manager of NASA’s Commercial Crew Program. “The NASA and Boeing teams have completed a tremendous amount of testing and analysis, and this flight test is providing critical information on Starliner’s performance in space. Our efforts will help prepare for the uncrewed return and will greatly benefit future corrective actions for the spacecraft.”

NASA’s Commercial Crew Program requires spacecraft fly a crewed test flight to prove the system is ready for regular flights to and from the space station. Following Starliner’s return, the agency will review all mission-related data to inform what additional actions are required to meet NASA’s certification requirements.

The agency’s SpaceX Crew-9 mission, originally slated with four crew members, will launch no earlier than Tuesday, Sept. 24. The agency will share more information about the Crew-9 complement when details are finalized.

NASA and SpaceX currently are working several items before launch, including reconfiguring seats on the Crew-9 Dragon, and adjusting the manifest to carry additional cargo, personal effects, and Dragon-specific spacesuits for Wilmore and Williams. In addition, NASA and SpaceX now will use new facilities at Space Launch Complex-40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida to launch Crew-9, which provides increased operational flexibility around NASA’s planned Europa Clipper launch.

The Crew-9 mission will be the ninth rotational mission to the space station under NASA’s Commercial Crew Program, which works with the American aerospace industry to meet the goal of safe, reliable, and cost-effective transportation to and from the orbital outpost on American-made rockets and spacecraft launching from American soil.

For more than two decades, people have lived and worked continuously aboard the International Space Station, advancing scientific knowledge and demonstrating new technologies, making research breakthroughs not possible on Earth. The station is a critical testbed for NASA to understand and overcome the challenges of long-duration spaceflight and to expand commercial opportunities in low Earth orbit. As commercial companies focus on providing human space transportation services and destinations as part of a robust low Earth orbit economy, NASA’s Artemis campaign is underway at the Moon where the agency is preparing for future human exploration of Mars.

Find more information on NASA’s Commercial Crew Program at:
https://www.nasa.gov/commercialcrew

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Finally. NASA has been ideologically compromised for a while now, but it was asinine that they spent months dragging their feet on a SpaceX rescue mostly to avoid giving good press to Elon. They had an RFP out to SpaceX for this while at the same time dropping press releases that they had no plans of ditching Boeing.

I wanted to see what Ars Technica had to say about this since they’re usually pretty good on space news and the comments over there have mega deranged takes like “great, now we’ve given control of low earth orbit to a fascist.” Risking the death of two astronauts to own the chuds I guess.
Well their choice was risking the crew on a known broken ship, or have the Boeing crew greeted on landing by Elon or Putin.
I am legit surprised they didn't just sacrifice the crew rather then the humiliation of having SpaceX or Roscosmos bail them out.
The ideologues have been propping up Boeing for so long it has completely undermined the credibility of NASA.
 
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Lost all respect for NASA years ago when the new director said one of his top priorities was to reach out more to Muslims.



Then the Obama regime said the director misspoke. Didn't believe them then, don't believe them now.




Also during the Obama regime the US Army made 'lactation support' one of their top priorities.



Believe future historians studying the demise of the USA will peg the start of the demise with the coming to power of the Obama regime.


Believe Elon will get it done; he doesn't seem to give a flying fuck about DEI.
 
Space is dumb and gay. Would be best to blow the whole station up. Coordinate and publicize the event in advance so I can watch the craft burn up in the sky on an otherwise quiet afternoon.
I think we should launch enough explosives into orbit, starting at geostat and working our way down, so NOBODY can travel past the Karman line due to too much shrapnel. Then we can stop wasting effort on dumb gay rockets for a few thousand years, as well as get rid of GPS, surveilance satellites, and VH1.

A golden era.
 
It's amazing how we allegedly went to the moon thanks to Germans with Slide Rulers and Autism. Now that we have computers more powerful than anything at that time that can fit in your pocket, and we can't even safely return people to the ground. A curious person might find themselves asking, "What went wrong?"

I also doubt this is less about Elon and more about Russia. Elon says a lot of shit, but is completely untrustworthy; I'm sure the Russians could rescue them since the ISS was a joint venture between us and them; but the USA doesn't want that look, so they're being held hostage due to politics.
 
It's amazing how we allegedly went to the moon thanks to Germans with Slide Rulers and Autism. Now that we have computers more powerful than anything at that time that can fit in your pocket, and we can't even safely return people to the ground. A curious person might find themselves asking, "What went wrong?"

I also doubt this is less about Elon and more about Russia. Elon says a lot of shit, but is completely untrustworthy; I'm sure the Russians could rescue them since the ISS was a joint venture between us and them; but the USA doesn't want that look, so they're being held hostage due to politics.
I mean there are 3 easy answers. 1) it was a lie, 2) niggers, 3) military industrial complex became unshackled from their stuff working and its more important for a project to exist than to get delivered
 
10 to 1 the astronauts just refused to get in the spaceliner

They already beat big odds just getting up there they probably don't want to push it any further by riding down in a know high risk ship.

Fuck it, stay up there until SpaceX is ready to go up again. That's what I would do
 
It's amazing how we allegedly went to the moon thanks to Germans with Slide Rulers and Autism. Now that we have computers more powerful than anything at that time that can fit in your pocket, and we can't even safely return people to the ground. A curious person might find themselves asking, "What went wrong?"
all the smart people got snapped up by hedgefunds so they can make .00001 percent more profit for mr shekelstein
 
Looking at the Challenger, I wouldn't say that they were all that competent
NASA's mistake always has been the lack of will to double and triple down and tell the politicans to get fucked.

"NOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT WE DECIDE YOUR BUDGET!"
"Get the fuck outta here, we just patent all that juicy applied research shit we have and then we don't need your bullshit anymore. Security will escort you out of the building."

Given that most of the US government has gone rogue in the past 60 years, I really like to see a pissed off NASA admin doing this and then some.
 
I'm sure the Russians could rescue them since the ISS was a joint venture between us and them; but the USA doesn't want that look, so they're being held hostage due to politics.
There is no "was". It still is. There is a Soyuz with a Russian, American, and Belarusian crew docked there now. There is also another Soyuz planned for next month with 2 Russians and 1 American crew. After the Shuttle was canceled and before SpaceX, Soyuz was the only way to the ISS. And since SpaceX, Russians have been flying in the Dragon too. ISS amazingly so far hasn't been fucked up by geopolitics. There is no technical reason the Russians couldn't rescue them.

But ya I think having Boeing ask the Russians to bail them out is just bridge to far for them.
When Boeing was deciding Elon, Putin, or just "Let the crew die" I wonder how many votes just letting them die got. My bet is it was non-zero.
 
Given that most of the US government has gone rogue in the past 60 years, I really like to see a pissed off NASA admin doing this and then some.
It'd be nice, but NASA of today is a shadow standing on the corpse of a once powerful giant. Being a part of the government, they drunk the kool-aid by the bushel and went hard on diversity; and not the kind of "smart black woman can actually do math," but jut the more women/non-whites, just because. Like that article from years ago, some woman did the math or computer program or something to map a black hole or something like that; but if you look at the who wrote what, she did like a small fraction of the work compared to some other guy; but the woman got the glitz and glamour because diversity. Meanwhile the European Space Agency lands a probe on a meteor, and the dude gets attacked for wearing a shirt some shrill fucking harpies don't like. The Aerospace agencies have been poisoned by the same shit everything else has.

We can't go back to the moon because according to NASA they destroyed everything related to the Saturn V and it's just gosh-darn too difficult to do these days. Is it really nigger? I'm at a juncture in my life where hearing this shit has me going 50/50 the moon landing was a hoax, because what the fuck kind of response is that; and wanting every suit, front-hole carrier, and non-white to admit that NASA was better under a bunch of fucking Nazis. I don't know which one will happen first, but I'm fucking waiting.
 
It's amazing how we allegedly went to the moon thanks to Germans with Slide Rulers and Autism. Now that we have computers more powerful than anything at that time that can fit in your pocket, and we can't even safely return people to the ground. A curious person might find themselves asking, "What went wrong?"
You can't use a slide rule to download tranny porn.
 
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