Apple Thread - The most overrated technology brand?

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This is why your grandparents allowed communism to happen.

The Apple ecosystem and the larger economic system it operates in is about as capitalist as one can get. A company such as Apple could never and has never emerged from anywhere that practices communism.

 

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This is why your grandparents allowed communism to happen.

I own a 15, of course. Only the best for Quence!

Why haven’t you gone with some sort of android phone?

 

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I own a 15, of course. Only the best for Quence!

Why haven’t you gone with some sort of android phone?

i had an android back in the 4.0 days, and i currently own an android tablet. the issue is, most of the android devices have like 2 years of support while ios has it for like 5-7 years. and not every custom rom is compatible with every android device (if they even have unlockable bootloaders)

 

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i had an android back in the 4.0 days, and i currently own an android tablet. the issue is, most of the android devices have like 2 years of support while ios has it for like 5-7 years. and not every custom rom is compatible with every android device (if they even have unlockable bootloaders)

I wish more Android models adopted the 7 year updates that Samsung flagships and Pixels now have.

Samsung Flagships and Pixel phones 2 to 3 years of support was a bit offputting and one reason I bought an iphone 13 a few years ago.

 

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i had an android back in the 4.0 days, and i currently own an android tablet. the issue is, most of the android devices have like 2 years of support while ios has it for like 5-7 years. and not every custom rom is compatible with every android device (if they even have unlockable bootloaders)

How important are custom ROMs to you?

 

[Betonhaus]

How important are custom ROMs to you?

I would suppose it depends on how much you hate Google but still want an Android phone.

 

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How important are custom ROMs to you?

as a privacy interested normie, alot i guess.

 

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I would suppose it depends on how much you hate Google but still want an Android phone.

That’s a good point. Is there a decent and usable smartphone OS that is not android or iOS?

 

[Betonhaus]

That’s a good point. Is there a decent and usable smartphone OS that is not android or iOS?

Not really. Harmony OS is a Chinese fork, KaiOS is for featurephones, Sailfish OS only works on some Sony Xperia phones and an unreleased device.
There are some linux based OSs (Ubuntu Touch, Mobian, Plasma Mobile, PureOS, and postmarket OS), but none of them have any really good support for apps or devices

 

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The Apple ecosystem and the larger economic system it operates in is about as capitalist as one can get.

That's not really true, apple as a walled garden is similar to costco, while obviously anyone can sign up/buy their way into both. They can easily toss out any "unsavory" types easily and censor and shut down things for the good of the rest of the population (their members) which is closer to a fash system in a way. all their bullshit initiatives are also done with the express purpose of helping the company as a whole grow, which you can argue every corporation does, except apple is a fuckload better at it, you don't see Microsoft or Facebook having a successful streaming service or music streamer that is considered the best.

And just like Costco because of their totalitarian ways, it let's them have a great reputation to where people would be fine living in Apple built neighborhoods or drivine Apple cars or going to an Apple university or high school.

I own a 15, of course. Only the best for Quence!

stupid question, but is that how normal slav languages sound? like that weird narcissism. i want to know if your sentences just sound normal to you.

Samsung Flagships and Pixel phones 2 to 3 years of support was a bit offputting and one reason I bought an iphone 13 a few years ago.

exactly.

 

[Betonhaus]

And just like Costco because of their totalitarian ways, it let's them have a great reputation to where people would be fine living in Apple built neighborhoods or drivine Apple cars or going to an Apple university or high school.

the Costco Villas in Los Angelas will put that to the test

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

the Costco Villas in Los Angelas will put that to the test

great example, those 5 over 1s are notoriously demonic, they're like something an autist would have come up with in a city builder because its maximum revenue with the cheapest dogshit materials known to man barely following the minimum standard on building codes to a T. They're tenement buildings but priced for email-job types to rent. And yet people will line up around the block for them.

 

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Not really. Harmony OS is a Chinese fork, KaiOS is for featurephones, Sailfish OS only works on some Sony Xperia phones and an unreleased device.
There are some linux based OSs (Ubuntu Touch, Mobian, Plasma Mobile, PureOS, and postmarket OS), but none of them have any really good support for apps or devices

I’ve heard stories around the campfire that Microsoft at one time had its own mobile OS. Did anyone here ever try it? If so, was it any good.

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How hobbled are those OSs in terms of things they can’t do when compared to, say, iOS?

That's not really true, apple as a walled garden is similar to costco, while obviously anyone can sign up/buy their way into both. They can easily toss out any "unsavory" types easily and censor and shut down things for the good of the rest of the population (their members) which is closer to a fash system in a way. all their bullshit initiatives are also done with the express purpose of helping the company as a whole grow, which you can argue every corporation does, except apple is a fuckload better at it, you don't see Microsoft or Facebook having a successful streaming service or music streamer that is considered the best.

I agree that if you go the iPhone route there will be some limitations. But at this point most people know about those limitations, so as a consumer you’re weighing that information against all of the great things that are built into iPhones. It’s still a very consumer-centric transaction. No one is forced to buy an iPhone or android phone.

It would be nice if there were 1 or 2 other major smartphone manufacturers and quality OSs to go along with them. Honestly, how difficult is it to create an OS that’s legitimately competitive with iOS and android?

And just like Costco because of their totalitarian ways,

I love Costco

stupid question, but is that how normal slav languages sound? like that weird narcissism. i want to know if your sentences just sound normal to you.

Da, very normal. Спасибо, что задали вопрос, товарищ!

 

[Betonhaus]

I’ve heard stories around the campfire that Microsoft at one time had its own mobile OS. Did anyone here ever try it? If so, was it any good.

I had a Windows Mobile phone that I bricked the first day that I got it, because it cane with version 6 and i thought it would be fine to install version 6.1 from a different carrier.

I had the Alcatel Idol 4s with Windows 10 and it ran very well. Honestly I liked it a lot, but app compatibility was an issue. I had an HTC 8X which felt really nice to hold, it had Windows Phone 8 which worked well.

 

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I had a Windows Mobile phone that I bricked the first day that I got it, because it cane with version 6 and i thought it would be fine to install version 6.1 from a different carrier.

I had the Alcatel Idol 4s with Windows 10 and it ran very well. Honestly I liked it a lot, but app compatibility was an issue. I had an HTC 8X which felt really nice to hold, it had Windows Phone 8 which worked well.

Why wasn’t MSFT able to develop a stable smartphone + OS business? Did Apple simply run over them with a better product and better sales?

 

[Betonhaus]

Why wasn’t MSFT able to develop a stable smartphone + OS business? Did Apple simply run over them with a better product and better sales?

Windows phone was a fairly popular device that competed with Blackberry OS in the business world. in 2008 the iPhone launched and initially Microsoft dismissed it, but it grew to be very popular so Microsoft was caught on the backfoot trying to modernize their os to keep up. So they launched a revised version in 2010, then again in 2012, 2014, and 2015. And every time the new version completed dropped support for applications written for the previous version, so developers stopped trying to keep up. And once Windows phone stopped having major third-party apps it lost the app war to the iPhone which had apps for everything

A really stupid move, because even Microsoft knew that developers were important.

 

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And once Windows phone stopped having major third-party apps it lost the app war to the iPhone which had apps for everything

It's somewhat surprising actually that even with their walled garden approach, if you search for some app for some obscure purpose on iPhone it's usually there. Okay, sometimes it's shitty, but if it's possible to do on an iOS device, there's probably an app for it.

 

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It's somewhat surprising actually that even with their walled garden approach, if you search for some app for some obscure purpose on iPhone it's usually there. Okay, sometimes it's shitty, but if it's possible to do on an iOS device, there's probably an app for it.

To be fair, the main reason is probably:

1. iOS big in US and anglosphere (lots of people willing to waste money)
2. Android big in China, other more mid-income countries
3. Windows Phone big in India

As an app dev, you'd have to be mad to try and sell an app to Indians if you want to make any money.

 

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As an app dev, you'd have to be mad to try and sell an app to Indians if you want to make any money.

How many apps for finding the designated shitting street can there be?

And if there were an app for just generating jeeet code, it would have already replaced all jeets.