EU Founder and CEO of encrypted messenger Telegram questioned in France - Telegram founder Pavel Durov detained on arriving in France from Azerbaijan. shit is VERY BAD

https://www.tf1info.fr/justice-fait...ee-telegram-interpelle-en-france-2316072.html ( archived https://archive.ph/edvkC )

Pavel Durov, the founder and CEO of the encrypted messaging Telegram, was arrested around 8 p.m. this Saturday evening when he got off his private jet on the Tarmac of Bourget Airport. This 39-year-old, this Franco-Russian was accompanied by her bodyguard and a woman.

The arrest was carried out by the gendarmes of the GTA (gendarmerie of air transport). Boarded at the FPR (File of Les Persons sought), Pavel Durov arrived straight from Azerbaijan. Above the head he had a French research mandate issued by the OFMIN of the National Directorate of the French Judicial Police issued on the basis of a preliminary investigation.
Why was he under the threat of a research mandate?
Justice considers that the absence of moderation, cooperation with the police and the tools proposed by Telegram (disposable number, cryptocurrencies ...) makes it accomplice of drug trafficking, pedocriminal offenses and scam.

This research mandate ran if, and only if, Pavel Durov was on the national territory. "He committed a dumpling tonight. We don't know why ... was this flight only a step? In any case, he is boxed!", Slips a source close to the investigation at TF1/ LCI. Since he had known himself persona non grata in France, Pavel Durov used to travel to the Emirates, in the countries of the ex-USSR, in South America ... He traveled very little in Europe and avoided the countries where Telegram is under surveillance.

And now ?
Investigators of the ONAF (National Antifraude Office attached to the Customs Department) notified him and placed him in police custody. It should be presented to an investigating judge this Saturday evening before a possible indictment on Sunday for a multitude of offenses: terrorism, narcotics, complicity, fraud, laundering, concealment, pedocriminal content ...

"Pavel Durov will end up in pre -trial detention, for sure," comments an investigator from TF1/LCI. "On his platform, he suggested an incalculable number of crimes and crimes for which he does nothing to moderate or cooperate," analyzes a source close to the file.

His pre -trial detention at the end of his indictment is in fact no doubt. Pavel Durov, a billionaire, has substantial means for fleeing and its guarantees of representation will hardly convince the judges.

A draft to international resonance
For investigators, this draft with international resonance with various objectives. First, it allows you to kick the anthill, impress and dissuade the authors of crimes and crimes which, so far freely, on Telegram. Then, they aim to put pressure on European countries to accentuate the common work to bend the encrypted messaging on terrorist files.

Indeed, Telegram is a hive for criminal content. At the moment, the platform is making the news with the illegal broadcast of Ligue 1. matches but on this encrypted messaging, many accounts are used by organized crime. Beyond terrorism, the most dangerous pedocriminals communicate on Telegram to exchange content. "For years it has become the number 1 platform for organized crime," comments an investigator.
 
The issue is that he is influenced by those masses, and apparently by the garbage slop his own algorithm feeds him.
Many of the most popular accounts post nothing but misleading or factually wrong nonsense. This has wide-reaching impacts on society, as most people uncritically believe what they see online.

I think being able to say unpopular things on a public platform is good, but does anyone even see the things that go against the mainstream but are true, among all the things that are not in the mainstream because they're actually insane and factually wrong?
It's not just about what is getting banned, but also what is being amplified.

Goddamn speaking of slop, you got the "muh misinformation" censorship talking points down pat, comrade.

There's always been a sea of false info out there, and two of the biggest culprits in that regard are the press and world governments.

Neither you nor anyone else is the proper arbiter of what is factual. And governments are the least desirable arbiters of what is fact since they are incentivized to lie and to hide the truth in furtherance of their own power.
 
Guess the Telegram guy will be this decade's Assange...

My memory is hazy, but I think he renounced his Russian citizenship shortly after he left the country.
From one tyranical shithole to another, feels bad man.
Nigga, you do understand that if Josh was born Ivan Lunov in Saratov, then he'd be figuring out his place in prison hierarchy just about now? I mean, half the threads in thunderdome would consitute a felony, not to mention shit people post on the site, and no, Russia does not have article 230.
My point is, if I have to choose between sucking tranny dick and having phone wires attached to my balls, then I'd rather not choose at all.
Never forget that a "Ho ho holocaust" meme got the farms banned from Russian hosting.
He briefly considered moving to the US after he had left Russia. He changed his mind after a gentleman of a certain socio-economic status tried to mug him on the streets of San-Francisco. Truly a land of opportunity.
Very stupid of him to believe that faggot meca was the only option for him in the US. He could have still had a "flight accident" in the US, but Europe is a lot likelier to pull this bullshit happening now.

Also, any faggot thinking this is due to child or drug traficking is a mouth breathing retard. There is a strong "fuck the goverment" spirit in multiple EU nations growing by the day and that has the unelected faggots panicking, so they are going full shut them down to the app used to organize this discontent. It's not the first time goverments in Europe have sperged about how Telegram is a "Threat to our democracy tm" either, this is just the latest escalation.
 
He deserves everything he gets for cucking this hard and pozzing himself so hard with EU Citizenship, what a fucking idiot.

Not entirely sure not having EU citizenship would help.

The EU styles itself as the ultimate international arbiter of justice, see the human rights convention. It very openly imposes itself on other countries in areas from trade to climate targets.

They'd be just as happy to do this to any other nationality. Yes, even Americans.
 
imo if anything its a very good sign to start deleting accounts and downloading data before the servers get handed to mutts, eyrops or ruskies otherwise
 
what a coincidence
 

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isn’t the crazy woman who was on the board of the Wikimedia foundation also on the Signal board? The one who now heads NPR? Giant glowie vibes.

This woman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Maher
Not just that. This bitch gave a Ted Talk suggesting that our reverence for the truth is getting in the way of getting things done.

Isn't a phone number also required for Telegram?
Yes, but it easily allows you to use a temp number. It is at its heart, it was meant as a phone app. I only use it on desk top though.

I want to remind people that running a drug market place is also illegal, even in the USA.
Yes, however requiring a private communication entity to police the speech it hosts is akin to forcing the the telephone company to police what people when talking about on their land lines. Its evident that you have been conditioned to believe that free speech is is dangerous as opposed to an essential element of democracy. Without it, it is not democracy at all.
 
I don't want to hear another fucking word from smug faggot Europeans on this site again. YOU LIVE IN A POLICE STATE. YOU ARE AN INMATE. Get on your knees and shine my shoes and thank god (America) you are able to speak to a free man. You will address me as LORD and in turn I will address you as inmate.
Sit your fucking ass down. Not only should you realize that we're in this together, TPTB don't give a fuck if you're in snailfuckingstan or niggertopia. Josh's situation should make that absolutely fucking clear
 
reminder that Telegram has been giving Russian authorities access to data since 2020 and Russian authorities have been using this data to go after activists


But in June 2020, Russia suddenly announced it had reached an agreement with Telegram to unblock the app, the exact terms of which remain undisclosed despite requests for transparency from cybersecurity researchers, journalists, and human rights groups. (A Telegram spokesperson said that "no deals were made to inspire the unblocking of Telegram. That decision was made solely by the authorities in Russia.”) Most Russians, Matsapulina noted in her thread, laughed off the possibility that Telegram had made any concessions to the Kremlin. But when Russian authorities announced the agreement, she wrote, they “literally stated” that the two sides had reached it “in the context of terrorism,” the very context invoked in the arrest of Matsapulina and others. In fact, the fuller story surrounding Telegram’s ban and reinstatement does raise the question of whether Moscow has gained some leverage over Durov.

Same with German authorities

Contrary to what has been publicly stated so far, the operators of the messenger app Telegram have released user data to the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) in several cases. According to SPIEGEL information, this was data from suspects in the areas of child abuse and terrorism. In the case of violations of other criminal offenses, it is still difficult for German investigators to obtain information from Telegram, according to security circles.


Telegram has been compromised for at least 4 years and people have just been taking Pavel's word for it
 
reminder that Telegram has been giving Russian authorities access to data since 2020 and Russian authorities have been using this data to go after activists
In the BBC they mentioned this

On Sunday, the Russian Embassy in France said it was seeking access to Mr Durov.

It wrote on Facebook: "Following the media reports about the detention of P. Durov, the French authorities were immediately requested to clarify the reasons for the detention and to provide for the protection of Mr Durov’s rights and facilitate consular access.

"As of today, the French authorities are, at the present time, not cooperating on this issue.

"We are in contact with P. Durov’s lawyer.”

Russian Foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova posted on Telegram asking whether Western human rights NGOs would be silent on Mr Durov's arrest, after they criticised Russia’s decision to “create obstacles” to the work of Telegram in Russia in 2018.

Several Russian officials condemned the businessman's arrest, saying it showed the West has double standards when it comes to free speech and democracy.
 
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Doing more research on it, fucking WhatsApp has handed over less information to the government than Telegram and is safer due to the default end to end encryption

why the fuck did anyone ever trust this app when anyone from the company that runs telegram can intercept the messages. on top of that Telegram uses their own homebrewed encryption algorithm (which you have to enable manually) and does not encrypt groups for whatever reason

Durov is also a WEF Young Global leader


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telegram glows hard
 
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