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[John Badman]

It makes you wonder how Trump will steal her thunder like he did after the DNC.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

Shapiro takes orders from Israel not from the DNC.

Shapiro really really wants to be President in 2028

He will lick taint to get the DNC on board if necessary. Plus don't you think Israel would kill to see a Jew become PotUS?

Thankfully I think the American people are still wise enough to know that putting a Jew in the highest office in the world isn't a really good idea. But who the fuck know. This is clown world and the Democrats would vote in Satan himself if they were told to by their talking heads on TV and Twitter.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Shapiro really really wants to be President in 2028

He will lick taint to get the DNC on board if necessary. Plus don't you think Israel would kill to see a Jew become PotUS?

Thankfully I think the American people are still wise enough to know that putting a Jew in the highest office in the world isn't a really good idea. But who the fuck know. This is clown world and the Democrats would vote in Satan himself if they were told to by their talking heads on TV and Twitter.

Wouldn't Shapiro fuck up the election against DNC if he wants to run in 2028.

 

[John Badman]

Shapiro really really wants to be President in 2028

He will lick taint to get the DNC on board if necessary. Plus don't you think Israel would kill to see a Jew become PotUS?

No sane democratic 2028 candidate is hugging Kamala right now. They want nothing to do with what the current party ended up as being Hillary 2.0 black and tan.

 

[spinal gas chamber]

it's like how the movie gals back in the day were often like, "sassy", only nowadays in order to even hit basic "sass" you have to call somebody at LEAST a buttgargling faglord

Makes sense, shitfucker.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Wouldn't Shapiro fuck up the election against DNC if he wants to run in 2028.

By 2028, the DNC will be running a vtuber personality that's controlled by a dozen or so zoomer staffers.

 

[John Badman]

By 2028, the DNC will be running a vtuber personality that's controlled by a dozen or so zoomer staffers.

Skibidi Biden children will be old enough to vote.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

By 2028, the DNC will be running a vtuber personality that's controlled by a dozen or so zoomer staffers.

fr fr on god no cap bussin with the goat sauce?

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

I dunno what you guys are smoking

No matter what you still need the big honchos who make up the DNC inner circle favour to get even a shot at a PotUS nod.

Shapiro knows that he will need their support and blessing if he wants to get the nom. So yah he will tork the Penn results as much as he can because despite what people on this thread think the DNC still wants to and thinks they can win with a Harris ticket. If Harris needs Penn, and she does very badly, then by giving it to her Shapiro gets his "you owe me moment" when the choice for 2028 rolls around.

So yah, Penn is off the table and probably Wisc too. Trump has got a very narrow path to victory in November.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Trump and Vance did a similar joint interview. This looks like a nothingburger

What? Trump does 100's of interviews at this point and does one right as he picked Vance. Kamabla's done nothing for 40 days.

 

[Rimanah]

So yah, Penn is off the table and probably Wisc too. Trump has got a very narrow path to victory in November.

You may as well say Trump will lose then. He’d have to win Michigan in your scenario, and if we’re going to work off this theory that state governors will just rig elections, then Whitmer will rig that one. I’m sure she’s just as eager to get DNC favor as Shapiro. Not to mention trump is polling worst there of all swing states.

I don’t see any logical reason to write off Pennsylvania but not the other necessary swings.

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

It's not Doomerism if it's true guys.

So yah, Penn is off the table and probably Wisc too. Trump has got a very narrow path to victory in November.

I'll never get tired of using this GIF on doomers.
"Waaaah! The West has fallen so I'll say the same shit 50 fucking times because you just have to know the West has fallen!"

If you think it's already lost then spare me the impotent whining because it adds nothing to the discussion.

How's about we wait and see what will happen instead of crying like a pathetic faggot?

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

You may as well say Trump will lose then.

yah, I've said that a few times.

With Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin all of the table that pretty much means the end. The time to turn the tables has past as all those new voting laws are still on the books in the swing states so I don't expect anything different from 2020. Trump will do well in the non-fortified states but just like in 2020 he will hit the wall after Florida and never pass 232 votes again.

Now of course I hope I am wrong but I just don't see what has changed legally in the last 4 years in the critical states.

What's the old saying? Doing the exact same thing over but expecting a different result...?

 

[Harvey Danger]

My misgivings about RFK's ballot shenanigans are starting to pan out.

RFK Jr. to remain on the ballot in key battleground states of Michigan and Wisconsin (archive)

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. will still appear on the ballot in Michigan and Wisconsin despite suspending his presidential campaign — and could remain on the ballot in other critical battleground states, including Nevada and North Carolina.

The former independent presidential candidate, who suspended his 2024 bid on Friday and endorsed former President Donald Trump, said he would take his name off the ballot in key states where he could hurt the Republican’s results.

However, his request to escape has already backfired in at least two swing states that could decide the election.

In Michigan, it is too late for him to be removed.

Minor party candidates cannot withdraw, so his name will remain on the ballot in the November election,” Cheri Hardmon, press secretary for Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, told Axios on Tuesday...

Meanwhile, the Wisconsin Elections Commission also voted Tuesday to deny Kennedy’s request to be removed from the ballot.

The Commission based its decision on a Wisconsin law that says anyone who files nomination papers and qualifies to appear on the ballot cannot decline nomination.

“You’re not going to be able to cut a deal with someone and play last-minute games,” Democratic Commissioner Mark Thomsen said. “Which is what I think is happening here, frankly… We know Trump and Kennedy are playing games.”

According to an earlier NPR article, he missed the deadline to drop off the Nevada ballot, so he's stuck there too. North Carolina already printed ballots, they haven't decided whether to drop him and re-print yet.

Anyone who thinks this doesn't matter should re-watch the portion of his interview with Tucker, where he says internal polling showed him spoiling the election for Trump. That same polling also showed Trump winning if RFK was gone, which affected his decision. But now he won't be completely gone.

Yes, he can do a media blitz and tell all his supporters to ignore his name and vote for Trump. But now the "automatic" benefit of him dropping out requires advertising and asking, instead of forcing a decision on the cleaner ballot.

 

[draggs]

Biden overpolled by 3-6 points in PA in 2020, he only "won" by 1.17% after leading by anywhere from 4.7 to 7.3 points in all of October's polling. His smallest lead from July 1 to October 1 was 4.3%

Kumala ain't winning Pennsylvania no matter what Shapiro does if Trump is ahead, or tied, or she barely leads before election day. Same thing in Wisconsin and Michigan

 

[Sekirodiealot]

If trump wins, the left will be like: HOW DID HE AND JD VANCE WIN? THEY'RE WEIRD!!!

 

[General Emílio Médici]

My misgivings about RFK's ballot shenanigans are starting to pan out.

RFK Jr. to remain on the ballot in key battleground states of Michigan and Wisconsin (archive)

Could he just ask the electors who go to him to then cast their votes to Trump?

Didn't something like that happen in the 1810 election to break the deadlock?

 

[Puff]

Anyone who thinks this doesn't matter should re-watch the portion of his interview with Tucker, where he says internal polling showed him spoiling the election for Trump. That same polling also showed Trump winning if RFK was gone, which affected his decision. But now he won't be completely gone.

I'm generally confused as to the game they're playing here, but seriously, if he's spoiling Trump votes, there's no downsides to him dropping and endorsing now, even if it's not going to help some key spots.

 

[John Badman]

If trump wins, the left will be like: HOW DID HE AND JD VANCE WIN? THEY'RE WEIRD!!!

Brats will storm Capitol Hill.

 

[Nate Scully 025]

yah, I've said that a few times.

With Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin all of the table that pretty much means the end. The time to turn the tables has past as all those new voting laws are still on the books in the swing states so I don't expect anything different from 2020. Trump will do well in the non-fortified states but just like in 2020 he will hit the wall after Florida and never pass 232 votes again.

Now of course I hope I am wrong but I just don't see what has changed legally in the last 4 years in the critical states.

What's the old saying? Doing the exact same thing over but expecting a different result...?

… you don’t see any changes? Look, I’m not saying fraud is impossible this election, it absolutely is on the table unfortunately.

But you’re an absolute retard if you think the same political will is in the air now as in 2020. Things fucking suuuuuuck right now, and nobody but the most deluded blame Trump now, though they don’t necessarily apply that blame to those who deserve it either. Regardless, pretending that everything is in the same position as last time and any fraud will be 100% memory holed and smoothed over without question is a smooth-brained doomer pilled take.

Not saying fraud can’t happen, and even won’t say that it isn’t possible it fucks Trump out of the presidency again. But claiming there aren’t any differences between then and now is a stupid take, I’m sorry.