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[The Ugly One]

I think women finally being allowed to trust their intuition about men has led to a massive spike in involuntarily celibate men. I think incels are statistically more likely to have abusive tendencies and women can sniff that out. Kinda like we all have an uncanny sense of who’s a real woman and who’s a troon.

Women are repulsed by weakness, not violence. The greatest threat to a woman is Nature, as she herself lacks the physical ability to control it, which is why she instinctively recoils from men who are clearly unable to protect her from Nature, and is attracted to men who can control it. The latter man might also be a threat himself, but he's still less dangerous than Nature. Incels are more likely to be sniveling weaklings who feel sorry for themselves and are unable to sack up, grab life by the pussy, and take what they want. Women find this disgusting. Abusers typically have no trouble finding women; it's been shown over and over that women find Dark Triad traits attractive.

The deeper problem, though is that while women are now 100% free to have sex with whomever they want, they're choosing to not have children at all. From an evolutionary standpoint, they're not really selecting mates. They're engaging in a simulacrum of mate-finding, like eating a completely synthetic meal with zero nutritional value. This isn't because they're evaluating the men they have sex with and determining none of them are worthy of stopping the Pill for. A woman's instincts didn't evolve in the presence of the Pill at all; stopping and starting the Pill isn't part of her natural mating instincts, much like regulating our Coca-Cola consumption to avoid obesity, tooth decay, and diabetes isn't part of how our food-finding instincts evolved.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

I think women finally being allowed to trust their intuition about men has led to a massive spike in involuntarily celibate men. I think incels are statistically more likely to have abusive tendencies and women can sniff that out. Kinda like we all have an uncanny sense of who’s a real woman and who’s a troon.

You're buttressing a foregone conclusion that men are evil, violent and defective.

If all you hold is a Feminism, everything looks like a misogyny.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

The greatest threat to a woman is Nature, as she herself lacks the physical ability to control it, which is why she instinctively recoils from men who are clearly unable to protect her from Nature, and is attracted to men who can control it.

Counterpoint: technology has nullified the threat of nature so thoroughly men are the number 1 threat in most women’s minds. Consider how most women currently answer the question of whether they’d rather run into a man or a bear in the woods.

women are now 100% free to have sex with whomever they want, they're choosing to not have children at all

I agree that this is an observable fact and non-reproductive women are also being pruned from the gene pool. However, like the study you posted indicates, ~80% of women are still having children. I think social media over represents non-reproductive women who hoe around because reproductive women are too busy raising their children to twerk on TikTok. Also, keep in mind that some of the non-reproductive 20% are disillusioned women, like are common on BP. It’s sometimes difficult to paint statistics with broad brushstrokes.

You're buttressing a foregone conclusion that men are evil, violent and defective.

If all you hold is a Feminism, everything looks like a misogyny.

#notallmen
By and large, the men who are currently reproducing are statistically less likely to be evil, violent, and defective, IMO.

Are there exceptions? Of course. Some insane women swoon over serial killers and stand by their rape ape, even as he beats her. Some incels are truly respectful and will incorrectly trip a normal woman’s intuitive alarm bells. Animal nature is an imperfect system that is refined through natural selection.

My overall opinion is the cream of the crop for men are statistically the ones who find a way to reproduce in this genetic gauntlet.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

#notallmen

my point was #you'rebiased. Nice attempted deflection to #notallmen

 

[Sniperwoof]

Question Bully, is your incredibly negative view of your own gender and men in general something you developed on your own or was it a result of spending too much time in feminist spaces?

I assume it is the latter based on how butthurt you are about being banned from the man hate thread and BP.

 

[The Ugly One]

Counterpoint: technology has nullified the threat of nature

The technological cocoon has only been around for about 50 years; women haven't evolved an all-new neurochemical soup in that time. Rationality has nothing to do with it - a woman's rational mind might know that she's safe and doesn't need a big, strong, powerful man, but her primate hindbrain that releases hormones in response to the pheromones and behaviors of virile mates doesn't know this.

 

[The Punished Mitch]

Consider how most women currently answer the question of whether they’d rather run into a man or a bear in the woods.

Definitely sounds like a group of people who are very adept at sniffing out and correctly assessing danger

 

[The Ugly One]

Definitely sounds like a group of people who are very adept at sniffing out and correctly assessing danger

People took this way too seriously anyway. I bet if you asked a bunch of guys, "Which would you rather do, walk through the desert for 40 days and 40 nights or listen to a woman talk about Sex and the City," you'd get some pretty funny answers that would not actually be what we would actually do if faced with possibly dying of sunstroke & thirst vs listening to a woman talk.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

The technological cocoon has only been around for about 50 years; women haven't evolved an all-new neurochemical soup in that time. Rationality has nothing to do with it - a woman's rational mind might know that she's safe and doesn't need a big, strong, powerful man, but her primate hindbrain that releases hormones in response to the pheromones and behaviors of virile mates doesn't know this.

Definitely sounds like a group of people who are very adept at sniffing out and correctly assessing danger

Intuition works on an unconscious level, which why women often struggle to articulate their issues. That purity spirals, and predator males masquerading as allies are why male feminism has struggled to get off the ground.

I think a significant portion of a woman’s intelligence is wrapped up in her intuition. Almost all of a man’s intelligence is “liquid” in the sense he can apply it to anything. This explains why men are better at abstract activities, such as chess, mathematics, and video games, in addition to physical ones.

In a technological environment, a woman’s intuition only cuts its teeth on assessing the threat of men. I’d wager that the few women who’ve seen a bear irl would approach the question differently. Pictures of bears, which look like big, fluffy dogs, clearly don’t trigger intuition alarm bells.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

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Something is very, very wrong with liberal women.

"Hating my own race will help society and politics." – whore propagandized to support her own people's genocide

Question Bully, is your incredibly negative view of your own gender and men in general something you developed on your own or was it a result of spending too much time in feminist spaces?

"Hating my own sex will help society and politics." – failed male propagandized to support his own people's genocide

My overall opinion is the cream of the crop for men are statistically the ones who find a way to reproduce in this genetic gauntlet.

Men succeeding in love does not make women's expectations reasonable nor their demands possible, and it does not undo the adversarial lens Feminism warps everything in.

 

[pajeetprideworldwide]

Research indicates that a woman’s intuitive sense of whether or not her partner will be violent toward her is a substantially more accurate predictor of future violence than any other warning sign. (Page 406)

I can gauge your intellectual capacity from your ability to link a book with a normal font size, or lack thereof. How am I supposed to take this obvious coffee table book made up of articles published in women's gossip magazines seriously? The author (woman) doesn't even pretend to have any sources, there's not a single doi in the book. This is equivalent to a buzzfeed article that goes "Erm... Actually, Experts have said that diversity is our greatest strength chuddie." Do better.
Beyond that I genuinely do not think there's any substance to this argument because its based on opinion so we'll agree to disagree. On a different note, are you a Tails subscriber?

 

[Kalsarikännit]

Intuition works on an unconscious level, which why women often struggle to articulate their issues. That purity spirals, and predator males masquerading as allies are why male feminism has struggled to get off the ground.

I think a significant portion of a woman’s intelligence is wrapped up in her intuition.

>women inherently know what’s right, we just have to work backwards from that conclusion and rationalize it

You’re an idiot.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

The author (woman) doesn't even pretend to have any sources, there's not a single doi in the book.

Lundy is a man who has helped victims of abuse for over 30 years. The primary purpose of that book is to take abstract concepts of research and boil them down into an easy-digestible format for female victims of abuse. However, the resources section is quite thorough.

In this article, he specifically references the research of Jacquelyn Campbell, Neil Websdale, and David Adams. Those studies will have the graphs you’re looking for. However, I still recommend reading Lundy’s entire book.

Beyond that I genuinely do not think there's any substance to this argument because its based on opinion so we'll agree to disagree.

Yeah, at the end of the day, we’ll agree to disagree. And no, I’m not a tails subscriber.

>women inherently know what’s right, we just have to work backwards from that conclusion and rationalize it

You’re an idiot.

You fundamentally do not understand my position. I understand your sentiment that women shouldn’t vote (but disagree with it for practical reasons). Like with bears, most women’s experience with Somali Islamic immigrants comes from carefully tailored WEF propaganda, which does not trigger their intuition and explains why women tend to have self-destructive voting habits. I think those voting habits change as their actual experience with immigrants increases, which is why Europe is currently experiencing a “conservatism crisis.”

A woman’s intuition is best used for screening out dangerous dating partners because you fundamentally need to meet them.

 

[Sniperwoof]

Bully I say this from a genuine place of man love, you need to make some male friends to go out drinking with, this kind of self hatred can't be doing your mental health any favors.

 

[Spud]

from a genuine place of ♂man ♂love♂,

Lmao, gay.

this kind of self hatred can't be doing your mental health any favors.

Nah, let him suffer. It's want he wants, he's got the ability to solve his own problems, he just chooses not to. I say let him have the agency to wallow in his own self loathing.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

Bully I say this from a genuine place of man love, you need to make some male friends to go out drinking with, this kind of self hatred can't be doing your mental health any favors.

How about I summarize my position like this:

Women, for better or worse, primarily make decisions with their gut. The reason for this is an evolutionary mechanism designed to root out abuse. Men make abstract decisions through rational reasoning and physical drives, such as the sexual urge.

Civic planning of a healthy society where the interests of both parties are accounted for needs to take into account how both parties make decisions. I don’t particularly hate either party.

 

[Kalsarikännit]

You fundamentally do not understand my position.

I’m gonna flip this on you by pointing out that you fundamentally do not understand either this thread or its counterpart.

You were banned from there because you were male. Males are not allowed there, period. That’s the rule you broke.

As for this thread, and as others have pointed out, it is the “Woman hate thread” not the “debate people who want to shit on women about if women are really actually totally fine” thread.

Tl;dr no u and you’re pissing both groups off by your failure to understand this.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

Tl;dr no u and you’re pissing both groups off by your failure to understand this.

My opinions are my opinions. I pooost them in this thread because I’m allowed to. I used to poooost them in the other thread but now I’m not allowed to. Apparently, the true rules of each thread are “men post here” and “women post there” since I was banned for being a man, even though I was on-topic.

I don’t particularly care if both sides don’t like me I’m just here to spew my opinion. Thanks for listening

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Women, for better or worse, primarily make decisions with their gut. The reason for this is an evolutionary mechanism designed to root out abuse. Men make abstract decisions through rational reasoning and physical drives, such as the sexual urge.

Civic planning of a healthy society where the interests of both parties are accounted for needs to take into account how both parties make decisions. I don’t particularly hate either party.

"Women are irrational and society should account for and work around their irrationality." – enlightened male Feminist

Gee I wonder why you were kicked out of the women's thread.

 

[pajeetprideworldwide]

Lundy is a man

I guess I should take him more seriously then

article

Factors that should be taken particularly seriously include:

• The woman has a strong “gut” sense that the man could kill her or her children, or could carry out a serious and dangerous assault against any of them or against himself.
• He is extremely jealous and possessive. This characteristic becomes even more worrisome when he appears to be obsessive, constantly keeping her at the center of his thoughts and appearing to be unable to conceive of life without her. He has, for example, made statements such as, “If I can’t have you, nobody will.”
• He has a history of severe or very frequent violence toward her, or toward other individuals such as past partners.
• He follows her, monitors her whereabouts, uses high-tech means to keep tabs on her, or stalks her in other ways. He knows where she lives and works, knows names and addresses of her friend or relatives, or is in very familiar with her daily routines.
• She is taking steps to end the relationship, or has already done so.
• He was violent to her during a pregnancy.
• There are stepchildren involved.
• He has threatened to kill her or to hurt her severely, has strangled her, or has threatened her with a weapon (including making verbal reference to using a weapon, even if he did not actually brandish it)
• He has threatened to kill the children or the whole family.
• He has access to weapons and/or he is familiar with their use.
• He is depressed, suicidal, or shows signs of not caring what happens to him. He has, for example, threatened to kill himself if she leaves him.
• He is unemployed.
• He isn’t close to anyone, and no current relationships with friends or relatives are important to him.
• He has a significant criminal history and/or he has a history of using violence or threatening violence against other people.
• He abuses alcohol or drugs heavily, especially if his habits involve daily or nearly daily intoxication.
• He has been violent to children.
• He has killed or in other ways been violent to pets, or has used other terror tactics.
• He uses pornography heavily and/or has a history or perpetrating sexual violence or degradation against his partner or others.
• He has exhibited extreme behaviors when his current partner or past partners have made attempts to leave him.

research of Jacquelyn Campbell

You will get no arguments from me against anything stated above, but you inferring that any of what you sourced is somehow indicative of women being able to sniff out these abusive men is disingenuous. This is a simple matter of taking past behaviour and similar incidents into account, all common sense. Except the first sentence mentioning gut feeling the primary method to determine whether a man would be abusive and violent is to find out if he has previously been abusive and/or violent, this isn't based on women getting the ick. I'm trying very hard to be fair to you but you don't make it very easy for me. Can intuition be correct? Absolutely. But stop presenting women's intuition as if its some divine blessing bestowed upon them by God.
Even the chapter you linked from Lundy's book is not about intuition whatsoever, its about women ignoring or rationalising away signs of abuse, and having to make it visible to them, I have no idea how that strengthens your argument.

I’m not a tails subscriber

You talk like one

I think those voting habits change as their actual experience with immigrants increases, which is why Europe is currently experiencing a “conservatism crisis.”

Can you elaborate? I haven't really seen a massive change in women's voting habits, will be a great whitepill if true but I am sceptical.