Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

[sorrycharlie]

I know a Mexican cultural Catholic who was married with a family, and he still cheated on his wife with a woman and with anonymous men from Craigslist. It happens. And he seems slightly less gay than Glenn…

 

[Evan]

Her Instagram says 'Say goodbye to fatigue and hello to cellular energy."

For somebody that looks physically and mentally exhausted at basically all times, that's an interesting claim.

 

[GenociderSyo]

 

[Ethyllithium Boybortion]

So, cotton-balls in a sock & 5000 beets will heal Luna right up? Got it. It is both awesome & awful, the hole of delusion this woman continues to dig for herself.

 

[ZB927]

"Nothing fights cancer more effectively than the immune system"

Not actually true, you bunch of fucking quacks. Someone in my immediate family had a tumor completely covering one of his tonsils (get your kids the Guardasil vaccination people). The main treatment was 8 weeks of radiation to his neck, with once a week chemo (cisplatin) as an adjuvant treatment. So, the theory is that, since his immune system couldn't differentiate between tumor and healthy tissue (and it obviously wasn't successful in fighting the cancer off to begin with), the chemo kept his immune system just busy and suppressed enough that it wouldn't try to repair the tumor we were trying to kill, thinking it was a healthy tonsil.

Plus, y'know, if the immune system was that good at fighting cancer, it wouldn't kill millions of otherwise healthy people every year.

 

[Mauve Olive]

Plus, y'know, if the immune system was that good at fighting cancer, it wouldn't kill millions of otherwise healthy people every year.

Our bodies produce cancerous cells all the time during cell replication, and the vast majority of the time the immune system destroys them. Rarely some cells slip past our immune system and that's what causes cancer. Now, I'm not 100% sure how often our body makes/destroys these cancerous cells to say that what the quack says is accurate. But I can see where he is coming from and why he is making that claim.

 

[ByeByeBlackbird122623]

I’ve felt a lot of emotions since reading the whole thread, mostly revulsion and anger toward Blob because of Buna, but I’m so fucking monumentally annoyed with anything she says about her multiple MLM scams. This unbelievable clown cunt is trying to monetize her mostly, dead by her hand, potato child’s feeding tube contents! The lows to which the bitch won’t sink to make a buck. Blob, that makes you no better than a common drug dealer, pimp, or backyard dog fight promoter, I truly cannot wait for MLM to bite you in the ass and bankrupt you, you smug fat toad. I hope they investigate all the unfounded health claims she’s making and stick it to her harder than Glunt whenever she wants to make another waterhead.

Spoiler: MLM Sperg

I decided to do a little digging into Alovea in a moment of boredom, and went through their initial onboarding process up until the point where I had to pay for their kit to continue. During the process they make you e-sign a LONG document stating you absolutely WILL NOT make health claims using the company name etc. etc. and can unequivocally say that what she’s doing, is, according to their own (not very well written) policies, illegal.

 

[just lurking]

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Look at her foot. Holy. Fuck. I thought her foot wasn't completely flat to the floor while being twisted up but it absolutely is.

 

[BoobWhiskers]

I'm not even remotely informed when it comes to medical stuff, but does a nasal spray for a barely sentient potato lacking most lizard brain functions seem like a bad idea to anyone else? I'm assuming it must be some sort of grift item from another potato mom based on it being labeled all cutesy as 'Haighley's Hope' , but I feel like if she wanted to give her kid anything it would surely be more effective to... not clumsily squirt it up the nose of a kid who struggles just breathing and swallowing?

 

[Barbarella]

But I can see where he is coming from and why he is making that claim.

I suspect he’s making that claim because the latest (legit) cancer treatment (for some cancers) is immunotherapy. But I don’t thinks it works the way these idiots think, they are just jumping on the word.

Cancer is not a single disease, it’s thousands. Certain cancers bind to certain proteins in the body, and that can differ, even within the same cancer type. For example, an ER+ breast cancer will bind to estrogen whereas an HER2+ breast cancer will bind to HER+ receptors. Now, there are relatively new immunotherapy drugs like Herceptin and its descendants that block that binding and the cancer doesn’t grow. (With ER+ cancers the standard was to completely block estrogen with drugs like tamoxifen, which was hard on women. . Now there are immunotherapy drugs for that too-in certain cases.)

Cancer is extremely complicated, and there are thousands of possibilities. So anybody who says a cure for cancer is coming is being naive. Certain types of cancer have new treatments and people are living longer, and some (not all) people given a couple years to live have tried these drugs and are still alive more than two decades later. But saying cancer is going to be cured by a beet is like saying every infection will be killed by the same antibacterial.

As far as our bodies putting out deformed or cancer cells, it does happen often but it has to bind to the right thing and grow. Odds are more likely as a person gets older and mitosis is not as efficient. Or, if you are a deathfat who has wrecked their lymphatic system, which helps carries this body junk away.

(Disclaimer: everything super simplified and one of our med fags can clean up my explanation.).

Bottom line with no mistake: no woo product cures cancer. And won’t cure a kid with oatmeal for brains either.

 

[TractorGirl]

Really Robyn, really??

 

[The Judean People's Front]

Look at her foot. Holy. Fuck. I thought her foot wasn't completely flat to the floor while being twisted up but it absolutely is.

Did you guys see Luna's legs spasming all over the place while Robyn stuffs that first hot pink sock? All I could watch was the sideways foot flailing in the background (and the one in the cast moving too much, too).

Spoiler: Luna's right leg/foot mid-spasm

Look, I'm not religious or even spiritual, but I truly hope some divine being can soon release this tortured creature from its flesh prison

Also, that "grounding band" she has on Sapling is like a fabric wristlet with silver fibres throughout. It's supposed to help connect you to the healing powers of the Earth or something.

At this point, it's pretty much just a long slide into death, right? I know we've been saying that about Buna for her whole life, but that femur doesn't have a single chance of getting better.

 

[Breadbear]

Did you guys see Luna's legs spasming all over the place while Robyn stuffs that first hot pink sock? All I could watch was the sideways foot flailing in the background (and the one in the cast moving too much, too).

Spoiler: Luna's right leg/foot mid-spasm

Look, I'm not religious or even spiritual, but I truly hope some divine being can soon release this tortured creature from its flesh prison
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Also, that "grounding band" she has on Sapling is like a fabric wristlet with silver fibres throughout. It's supposed to help connect you to the healing powers of the Earth or something.

At this point, it's pretty much just a long slide into death, right? I know we've been saying that about Buna for her whole life, but that femur doesn't have a single chance of getting better.

That femur is one seizure away from severing her femoral artery.
And no, it's not going to heal. Her bones are like chalk, it's not going to heal.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

Our bodies produce cancerous cells all the time during cell replication, and the vast majority of the time the immune system destroys them. Rarely some cells slip past our immune system and that's what causes cancer. Now, I'm not 100% sure how often our body makes/destroys these cancerous cells to say that what the quack says is accurate. But I can see where he is coming from and why he is making that claim.

I think you’re mixing up some stuff. Our bodies don’t make cancer cells them kill it off. What you mean is cells with damaged DNA either repair themselves or die off through apoptosis. If neither happens, then it can result in cancer.

Normal cells grow and divide only as needed to replace damaged or aging cells. Mature cells have specialized functions. Once they fulfill their purpose, they die off, completing their life cycle.

Cancer cells have mutated genes and are less specialized than normal cells. Cancer cells don’t follow the regular routine. Needed or not, they grow and divide and don’t die off when they should. It’s this out-of-control growth that leads to cancer

 

[Oracular Slug]

Our bodies do produce cancer cells though, it's not some intentional thing, and it's not one specific Cancer™ -- but a cell is doing its thing and oops! Cancer! I'm not even going to try explaining that, you guys have done better than I could. But our immune system may "clean up" cancers before they can take over. I won't have library access again until Tuesday but this looks like a close enough example: https://ascopubs.org/doi/10.1200/JC...median follow-up time,and not reached for MUP

Sorry for the awful formatting, I'm on mobile and lucky to have a connection at all

 

[Mauve Olive]

Our bodies don’t make cancer cells them kill it off.

Our bodies do make cancerous cells though - you're correct through DNA mutations (either randomly during mitosis or through damage from carcinogens) and not on purpose but it's our body producing them.

The immune system can also kill cancerous cells - immunotherapy is also used to treat some forms of cancer. Monoclonal Antibodies can be used to recognise proteins on cancer cells to get the body's immune system to destroy them.

Although I agree with everything else you've said. And basically, we can all agree that whatever Robyn believes is dead wrong...

 

[GenociderSyo]

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

I know a Mexican cultural Catholic who was married with a family, and he still cheated on his wife with a woman and with anonymous men from Craigslist. It happens. And he seems slightly less gay than Glenn…

There's a few who do this, in a few different religions too. They'll never leave their wives and have a husband or long-term monogamous boyfriend, because that'd be a continuous sinful lifestyle, but they can rationalise having lots of anonymous gay hookups and then confessing each one afterwards. It ends up being worse than if they'd just made a clean break and divorced, bringing back monkey pox and shit to the poor wife and keeping her trapped in a sham marriage.

 

[ILikeYou]

In that fourth screen cap of written info from PubMed about fascia, it refers to 'tense areas [in the fascia] related to previous traumatic or disease experiences.'

Is there where she's getting the idea that 'emotional trauma is stored in your fascia,' supposedly? Does she think they mean mental trauma, rather than the medical meaning of, like, a physical injury caused by bonking or otherwise hurting the area? I love how she combines actual medical info w/ the dumbest medical misinformation & the most moronic medical solutions ever.

ETA: She mentioned a few days ago that she thinks that her family having gone through 'medical trauma' has effected Luna's fascia.

 

[Awwtismo]

There's a few who do this, in a few different religions too. They'll never leave their wives and have a husband or long-term monogamous boyfriend, because that'd be a continuous sinful lifestyle, but they can rationalise having lots of anonymous gay hookups and then confessing each one afterwards. It ends up being worse than if they'd just made a clean break and divorced, bringing back monkey pox and shit to the poor wife and keeping her trapped in a sham marriage.

I encountered women and occasionally men suffering from tertiary syphilis where I lived a decade or two ago. Sadly, it was usually because the person they thought they were in a monogamous relationship with was in fact a serial cheater. The types of dementia and skin lesions they suffered were like nothing I have seen since that time.
ETA: Not that I feel an ounce sympathy for Robyn or Glenbro, because they are the architects of their weird lives. I do feel badly for her children.