Trashfire TENET Media / Lauren "Chen" / Lauren Yu Sum Tam & Liam Donovan - Rightoid grifting network funded by the Kremlin, were the sole live reporters at AFPAC IV. Hired Tim Pool, Lauren Southern, Dave Rubin and others.

The problem arises when you're paid by a foreign country and don't disclose it. This is what they're being charged for.
Oh I understand this, but the problem with this is that Merrick Garland is very clear that these Breadtubers and grifters were deceived by Russian agents against their knowledge. He specifically calls them all victims. The DOJ doesn't think they necessarily did anything wrong. At the moment, at least. That can change in the future but the FBI is apparently still doing their investigation and interviews.
 
Being skeptical of one's government, especially when that government has provided more than good reasons for such skepticism, is not only NOT unpatriotic, it damn well ought to be a condition of citizenship (a healthy, thoughtful skepticism, not a blinkered, partisan one). Only subjects (or worse) just accept without question the shit from their government that they're given, even if that government provides some legitimate gold nuggets along the way. And the US Government has provided ample evidence of its corruption and incompetence such that people would be well within the bounds of reason to be skeptical, even distrustful of it.

This Department of Justice has been weaponised against the government's political opponents in a way I've never seen before, and doing it so brazenly in a "Yeah? What're you gonna do about it, punk" manner. Hell, even COINTELPRO was kept secret until well after it was called off in 1971.

Relatively few things are black and white, either/or. One can cast a wary eye of one's government's actions in some things AND be open to the idea that its action in another thing has merit.

This indictment could epitomise the moral of the "Boy Who Cried Wolf" story -- for the past eight years has gone up the cries of "Wussia, Wussia, Wussia," with nothing of substance to support them (Russian hacking, Steele dossier, Russian collusion, all the hallmarks of Russian interference). If this story turns out to be true, don't be alarmed if a fair number of people express their lack of concern, saying they've heard it all before.

The problem arises when you're paid by a foreign country and don't disclose it. This is what they're being charged for.
This. The indictment has bugger all to do with whether what "information" was requested to be put out was true or not.

But remember, it is the government's sole burden to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. The defendants don't have to prove shit.

Oh, one last thing: Timmeh is unbelievably stupid for talking to the FBI about even the colour of an orange without a written guarantee of immunity, signed by the US Attorney over the case or his authorised deputy.
 
That was a dumb video on Tucker’s part. He had the benefit of the better exchange rate between USD and the ruble, so of course groceries were going to be cheaper having that advantage. If he had to shop based on the average Russian grocery budget, he couldn’t have done as many impulse buys. Additionally, if he made a fairer comparison, he wouldn’t have been able to be like “Russian groceries being cheap is radicalizing” to his followers.
The average russian has better purchase power than the average american. Goyslop in Russia is not as bad, but also more expensive. Issues in Russia are different, but it does not mean living there is better or worse. "Grass is greener on the other side" videos are dumb indeed.
 
Evil Russian propaganda that is a threat to Democracy™®©℗:
"White people losing jobs"
"Traditional family values"
"Politicians are m'bad m'kay"
>NOOOO only WE can brainwash goyim worldwide
 

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Russia was just LARPing as the US State Department and trying their hand at their NGO fostering and color revolution thing.

You gotta work on it Ivan, some real beginner mistakes there.
Actually though. Thing is reading through the report, TENAT was underperfoming compared to the money they put in. It still did damage, immense damage, people were being paid off by a guy that didn't even exist and it still did influence people while acting like it was their True and Honest TM opinions. Greed is one hell of a drug man.
 
What does this have to fucking do with anything alleged or documented in the thread? Cenk Uyugur isn't (at this time anyway) the recipient of any kind of FARA violating foreign financing, and neither is Al Jaezeera. By all means call them retarded on your own time, what does this have to do with this case at all?
That's because it's currently in violation of the law and furthermore I was responding to somebody else's comment.


https://www.grassley.senate.gov/new...tment-determination-senators-want-to-know-why
 
People bringing up AIPAC, but the big thing is Saudi’s funneling money through various shell companies. You don’t know if you get Saudi money. Israel really doesn’t need foreign groups to do this, they have American Jews (not even dual citizens) who will work within their interests.

Honestly I'm sick of Russia dick gobbling both in alt media and here. No one fucking wants to live in that shithole yet people behave as if they are some economical and civic milestone people should emulate.
My opinion of the war is that ultimately Ukraine is effectively destroyed and is going to be destroyed further when cheap foreign labor and Blackrock firms rebuild it. I’ll probably profit off the rebuilding, I work in a field that’ll be needed post-war and know a professor has connections for jobs when the war ends.

There should have been a peace treaty 4 months after the war/ special military operation/ Slavic slap fight/ brother war, but the West did keep it going.
 
You dumb niggers are jerking yourselves off about how you're critical thinkers and don't understand the problem here. I've explained this multiple times in the thread.

There is nothing wrong with them saying their opinions on Russia and Ukraine. The DOJ is not going after them for that. There's not even a problem being paid by a foreign country if you openly disclose that you're being paid and register under FARA as a foreign agent.

You can see people who have registered under FARA here


The problem arises when you're paid by a foreign country and don't disclose it. This is what they're being charged for.

People going muh AIPAC ignore that AIPAC is public about contributions and all AIPAac contributions are made by private citizens

yes I'm sure the Israeli lobby does not have any ties to the state of Israel you know most of the people making those contributions have dual citizenship to the United States and Israel same thing with Diane Feinstein Nancy Pelosi Chuck Schumer I wonder why senior members of Congress have dual citizenship to America's supposed greatest ally.

You know the US government should really go after all of those foreign agents working at the Washington Post you know like the wife of Max boot
or hunter Biden who is an agent of the Ukrainian government and Chinese government.

You see guys if we create this legal loophole where we get dual citizens funnel money fun on to them from the state of Israel to give it to senators and congressmen is totally different from being a foreign agent for reasons.

Oh don't forget the ADL at one point was busted by the FBI for taking money from the Israeli government but they were never prosecuted because prosecuting Jews for undermining the United states is anti-Semitic

you know this all sounds like a bunch of McCarthyism actually which is now the argument I'm going to make anytime people bring up any foreign influence it's all just sounds like McCarthyism even though McCarthy was proven right
 
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Oh I understand this, but the problem with this is that Merrick Garland is very clear that these Breadtubers and grifters were deceived by Russian agents against their knowledge. He specifically calls them all victims. The DOJ doesn't think they necessarily did anything wrong. At the moment, at least. That can change in the future but the FBI is apparently still doing their investigation and interviews.
I might be missing something here, but it's my understanding that the DOJ believes that the presenters (Pool, Rubin, Southern, etc.) are all innocent, but that "Chen" and her husband might still be in hot water.

I kinda think she HAD to know something was going on here. That that money was coming from a sussy source.
 
I wonder why senior members of Congress have dual citizenship to America's supposed greatest ally
You see guys if we create this legal loophole where we get dual citizens Google money fun on to them from the state of Israel to give it to senators and congressmen is totally different from being a foreign agent for reasons.
What is it with retards and assuming all Jews are dual citizens? Just because you're eligible to be a citizen of Israel doesn't mean you are. I see the same thing from Jake Shields and his brain is a sponge from CTE


Oh don't forget the ADL at one point was busted by the FBI for taking money from the Israeli government but they were never prosecuted
Conficious institutes are directly funded by the Chinese government as well, no one goes after them. The ADL is an ethnic advocacy group, they don't comment on foreign relations as much.

I might be missing something here, but it's my understanding that the DOJ believes that the presenters (Pool, Rubin, Southern, etc.) are all innocent, but that "Chen" and her husband might still be in hot water.

I kinda think she HAD to know something was going on here. That that money was coming from a sussy source.
Chen and her husband knew but there's specific wording in the indictment that suggests they flipped. Probably going to get a plea deal.
 
Evil Russian propaganda that is a threat to Democracy™®©℗:
"White people losing jobs"
"Traditional family values"
"Politicians are m'bad m'kay"
>NOOOO only WE can brainwash goyim worldwide
Lol I see the MAGA retards are still in denial about being brainwashed by Russian propagandists on /pol/ :story:

Take it from someone a lot smarter than you: Just take the L here and try and do better in the future.
 
Lol I see the MAGA retards are still in denial about being brainwashed by Russian propagandists on /pol/ :story:
What brainwashing occurred? Go ahead, name some things that these Russian operatives apparently promoted that a majority of Americans weren't already thinking.

I kinda think she HAD to know something was going on here. That that money was coming from a sussy source.
Depends how much she knows. I really doubt Chen will face any serious consequences. It seems like Garland is more interested in going after the Russians. Which is...odd because that implies he's doing for once. I'm kind of at a loss as to why the DOJ seems to be going after a lot of foreign agents at the moment. Is he trimming the fat and getting rid of non-important liabilities? But I guess I shouldn't complain.
 
What brainwashing occurred? Go ahead, name some things that these Russian operatives apparently promoted that a majority of Americans weren't already thinking.
Everything that you posted in your post is not something that the majority of Americans think. Look, I know it's hard to accept for you, but you got duped by Russian propagandists and now your life is miserable. You spend all day online in your circlejerk echo chambers because no one in real life wants to be around you and women find you absolutely repulsive because you're a right-wing retard who does nothing but parrots extreme right-wing shit like wanting to ban birth control and claiming gays are the root of all evil in the world. You have two options here. You can either accept you were duped and try and do better, or you can double down and increase the miserable things in your life. You should choose the former, but I know you're a stubborn sped so I expect you to choose the latter.
 
Re: HHH posts

It's a shame that this Web 1.0 advice has to be repeated in 2024, but

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS
It's fucking hilarious that you chuds are still in denial about being duped by Russian propagandists. Then again, I know you retards love to be grifted, which is why you worship and want to have sex with an obese, elderly grifter.
 
Chen and her husband knew but there's specific wording in the indictment that suggests they flipped. Probably going to get a plea deal.
I would still consider that "in hot water."

Tim Pool and the others will probably walk away unscathed, but Chen and her husband might be in for a far rougher ride.

And hell, that's not even the "leftoid" line. Blaze fired her ass immediately. They know she's radioactive. Moving forward, everybody will now question whether anything she says or does is at the behest of Putin.

Frankly I think Chen is a dumb bitch. Even if you wanna argue that the DOJ is doing this in an election cycle for political reasons, Chen is still a dumb-dumb for taking that much Russian money and obfuscating it. Way to paint a target on her back. Herp derp.
 
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