General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

CyrusHowler said:
I find the people who hate male vtubers, specifically HoloStars, to be extremely funny. I’m not even a fan of HoloStars (My only Knowledge is one is named Bettel and there’s one named Axel that is Australian) but watching internet weirdos get mad that these dudes exist is so funny.
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It's not so much hate, so much as nothing about them butters my biscuits.
 
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Forte said:
Vesper getting mind broken by girls will never not be funny. I hope he does it more with the phase girls.
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Tenma does seem to be a special case where her fans are mostly free of autistic unicorns (with the added bonus of getting viciously ridiculed by the woman herself), so I'm not too optimistic about the other girls getting to chat with the orc.
It's a long shot compared to Pippa or Lumi but I kinda want to see him pitted against Clara.
 
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Airless said:
ngl, I really enjoyed ENReco. Made me like both Minecraft streams and /vt/ and it seems to have been a pretty big boon for Gigi and ERB
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Gonathan got his happy ending despite the true antagonist Irys.
Meanwhile Faun this whole week:

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Btw: the (15) maps were built by one single guy within 5 months and a team of scripters
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She was evil all along
 
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Airless said:
ngl, I really enjoyed ENReco. Made me like both Minecraft streams and /vt/ and it seems to have been a pretty big boon for Gigi and ERB
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Well if this entire Kingdom hearts chain of memories knock off has made deranged unicorn types on that site appreciate EBR more than at least something positive came out of this
CyrusHowler said:
Not just that. The EU and even some US money went to it.

I always lol when they post pics of Goob holding up a sign that says “No Homostars allowed” as if she’d not rather interact with them than some weird stinky freak from the internet.

Yeah, I can understand not liking any content creator. I don’t care for Ironmouse or Zentraya but I’m not gonna go on a weird crusade against them.
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The main reason for these consistent oddities is because Vtubing is the unholy fusion between anime and idol stan culture which are both notorious for pandering to mentally ill and very lonely types of the world.

In fact, the medium simplifies things considerably by taking an anime archetype, making it intractable and therefore seemingly obtainable which allows for parasitic bonds to form between both parties.

This pseudo wish fulfillment gets broken when you throw another person from the opposite sex into the mix because it breaks the immersion and causes the above to realize that this is indeed an illusion and after getting a big spoon of reality they proceed to lash out at all parties involved.

In the world of English dubbing you never really see this happen without the party involved getting dealt with but in Japan and it's smile through the pain approach to everything allows for bad actors to get away with this and so much more because there are basically no consequences.
 
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X-avier cuck said:
The main reason for these consistent oddities is because Vtubing is the unholy fusion between anime and idol stan culture which are both notorious for pandering to mentally ill and very lonely types of the world.
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Unholy fusion really is a perfect way to phrase it. I don't know if it is some stroke of genius or just plain luck that vtubing ended up bringing the japanese idol culture to the mainstream in western internet, but it makes complete sense given that it takes the most subjective appeal of idol culture in japan, which is the idols being japanese, to something that does away with that by using a more universally acceptable anime visual. I don't know how much being an actual pseudo idol agency has to do with the popularity, but if i had to guess its probably related to how detached the vtubers are from being actual people, specially in hololive's case.

And on that point, that is the exact reason i do not really enjoy hololive, but occasionally enjoy indie/vshoujo vtubers. Hololive reeks of the exact same reason i never enjoyed idol stuff, which is being so completely parasocial with its viewers that it barely feels like you are watching a streamer, and more like you are watching a person playing a role of an anime character being a streamer.
 
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dezazlop said:
Unholy fusion really is a perfect way to phrase it. I don't know if it is some stroke of genius or just plain luck that vtubing ended up bringing the japanese idol culture to the mainstream in western internet, but it makes complete sense given that it takes the most subjective appeal of idol culture in japan, which is the idols being japanese, to something that does away with that by using a more universally acceptable anime visual. I don't know how much being an actual pseudo idol agency has to do with the popularity, but if i had to guess its probably related to how detached the vtubers are from being actual people, specially in hololive's case.

And on that point, that is the exact reason i do not really enjoy hololive, but occasionally enjoy indie/vshoujo vtubers. Hololive reeks of the exact same reason i never enjoyed idol stuff, which is being so completely parasocial with its viewers that it barely feels like you are watching a streamer, and more like you are watching a person playing a role of an anime character being a streamer.
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The parasociality was always inherent to streaming and it shows with indies and other agencies like Niji who didnt subscribe to idolfaggotry as much as Holo did. Dare i say that Unicorns were always just a gaggle of more impotent tards compared to the sheer force of autism wrangling that Fujos did to Nijisanji, to the point where they were brigading streamers like Reimu for collabing with Vox and are constantly alluded to whenever Matara/Nina talks about her reasons for leaving
I think it was a huge issue with Rushia and you can definitely point to her as a very open and shut case of idolfaggotry poisoning the career from both a creator and fan perspective, but i think Hololive has steadily been having more of a hand of reigning the faggotry while Niji does nothing and countless /asp/ tards reap what they sow with parasocial tards. Or sometimes some 4/10s get 2k dollar wedding rings

I think an unholy fusion is pretty apt though, Streamer simping has been reaching critical mass and whatever exec who thought of using streaming to trojan horse idolfaggotry into the mainstream weeb internet is having a giggle right now
 
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dezazlop said:
Unholy fusion really is a perfect way to phrase it. I don't know if it is some stroke of genius or just plain luck that vtubing ended up bringing the japanese idol culture to the mainstream in western internet, but it makes complete sense given that it takes the most subjective appeal of idol culture in japan, which is the idols being japanese, to something that does away with that by using a more universally acceptable anime visual. I don't know how much being an actual pseudo idol agency has to do with the popularity, but if i had to guess its probably related to how detached the vtubers are from being actual people, specially in hololive's case.

And on that point, that is the exact reason i do not really enjoy hololive, but occasionally enjoy indie/vshoujo vtubers. Hololive reeks of the exact same reason i never enjoyed idol stuff, which is being so completely parasocial with its viewers that it barely feels like you are watching a streamer, and more like you are watching a person playing a role of an anime character being a streamer.
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IMO, I would say the medium is still pretty niche because outside of certain parts of the internet and Japan it's largely unknown by the general public.

But one day — and mark my words — Hollywood’s gonna get a hold of it. Yup. You’re gonna see Oscar bait movies with A-list celebrities as Vtubers. Leonardo DiCaprio’s gonna be voicing a virtual cat boy, and Netflix is gonna go, “You know what? 20 shows. Right now. All of them have Vtubers. Let’s go.”

I also completely agree with your stance on the Holo side of things ( especially on the English side)
They sign up thinking it’s all fun and games, but suddenly they’re locked into playing this character for hours. Day in, day out. And now they’re being virtually stalked by guys with waifu pillows who think this anime persona loves them back! Which — look, I wouldn’t wish that mental pressure on anyone.

The only thing worse than what I just described is if you happen to be a male talent in a very female-centric company because not only do you have to also deal with that stan behavior but you also get to be a second-class citizen that has to deal with the aftermath of angry simps who are mad that their virtual crush talked to you.

It really sucks but the anime industry as a whole has been built off of this for decades now but I don't think this translates well into the very individualistic ideals of what most western places are built on
 
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Deluxe2 said:
I've been following her for a while. She's always been menhera but her numbers have 10x since her graduation episode. She does some very funny stuff like demanding naked prostration photos from her listeners, showing gorilla mating on stream and letting chat decide what medicine she has to drink from amazon.
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I've noticed that these unhinged chicks will do anything for views and followers. Like what's next, drink water with radioactive materials mixed in with it?
 
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Another Gura stream:
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I can't believe that they are finally going to fix Shin Umiushi's fucked up rhombus rigging after all these years.
I was curious to see what the dude was up to these days and his twitter media feed looks like he has become a professional pokemon go Player. Doesn't look like he is drowing in work.
 
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X-avier cuck said:
Well if this entire Kingdom hearts chain of memories knock off has made deranged unicorn types on that site appreciate EBR more than at least something positive came out of this
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I'm still optimistic and think those are mostly just trolls, but either way, her getting more popular definitely makes it harder for people to do that
 
Airless said:
I'm still optimistic and think those are mostly just trolls, but either way, her getting more popular definitely makes it harder for people to do that
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Nah, there are definitely a sizable portion of people who don't like the stars typically because they believe that they steal resources from the actual money makers of the company and her endorsing them is kind of seen as a blight on that Holo shine.

I'm just looking forward to that 3D debut where he's an everly going to probably have a representation from every Branch performing a song with her
 
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