US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[oh no its pipkun]

If Hitler said he hated Trump progressives would probably try to apply identity politics to Nazis the same way they apply it to minority groups.

"hitler let gay men into his cabinet"

 

[CaddestSlown]

"hitler let gay men into his cabinet"

I can see the articles now...

"Nazi Fashion and its Importance to Queer Culture"
"Israel is a Problem, LGBTQ+ Jews Could Be the Final Solution"
"Josef Mengele's Revolutionary Influence on Sexual-Reassignment Surgeries"

Honk honk!

 

[FlappyBat]

This was posted in r/murderedbywords as a “mic drop”.

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This is just black people shouldn't vote at a course enough level of analysis to get a conclusion they find palatable.

 

[Chad Holdenford]

This was posted in r/murderedbywords as a “mic drop”.

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So they do admit that they want to be the ones to call the shots because they're smart. So smart, they have no idea of cause and correlation. Like the fact the states with high gun violence are almost all either blue, or have big cities/counties that vote Dem every single time.

And as mentioned many times before, those poor areas that shouldn't dictate economy and education policies, especially in the South, are mostly black.

Redditors aren't people.

 

[Seething Troon Collector]

This is why they're dead set on phasing out audience reviews lmao

Why wouldn't they. Why have an opinion when a braindead fart sniffing coastal elite liberal movie critic can tell you great a comedy special is when it's literally just some angry cathedral lesbian screaming about men for an hour and not making a single joke that lands. See Nanette (it used to be worse, some serious Ministry of Truth astroturfing was performed between now and when I looked at this years ago)

Meanwhile, how is Dave Chapelle, in my opinion the true heir to the void that Carlin left when he died, doing? According to the above costal liberal elites, terrible, but normal people fucking love it.

There must be something wrong, it can't be the cathedral sanctioned critics who are wrong, no, it must be everyone else. Yet another reason why I don't believe any shit about how great Kamala is doing. Who is conducting, interpreting, and explaining the results of these polls again?

 

[I Hate The Disabled]

This was posted in r/murderedbywords as a “mic drop”.

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This faggot needs to be shot. Several times.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Kamala Harris has finally put up a policy page:

https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

Every section has a special Trump section:

Vice President Harris will never hesitate to take whatever action is necessary to protect U.S. forces and interests from Iran and Iran-backed terrorist groups. Vice President Harris will always stand up for Israel’s right to defend itself and she will always ensure Israel has the ability to defend itself. She and President Biden are working to end the war in Gaza, such that Israel is secure, the hostages are released, the suffering in Gaza ends, and the Palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom, and self-determination. She and President Biden are working around the clock to get a hostage deal and a ceasefire deal done.

havent seen this much hedging outside of a maze

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

Nah, this is just the end of Kamla's honeymoon,

Can someone explain this mentality to me. I just don't understand someone going "Yes, I'm going to vote X because of this single event" only to a couple weeks/month later to suddenly change their mind "Nah, my enthusiasm has worn off. I don't think I'm going to vote for them anymore.

 

[CaddestSlown]

Can someone explain this mentality to me. I just don't understand someone going "Yes, I'm going to vote X because of this single event" only to a couple weeks/month later to suddenly change their mind "Nah, my enthusiasm has worn off. I don't think I'm going to vote for them anymore.

It's because of the excitement regarding a recent happening that might blind them to (gonna put it very nicely) the shortcomings of a particular person. They're still going to vote for them, probably, but the outward positivity just won't be as rampant. Maybe you can compare it to recency bias? Closest thing I could think of.

 

[I Hate The Disabled]

Kamala Harris has finally put up a policy page:

https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

Every section has a special Trump section:

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havent seen this much hedging outside of a maze

Haha, her policy is just complaining about Trump.

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

Reagan would vote for Kamala? I suppose that makes sense... conservatives don't conserve anything, just look at the record of Ronald "Make California Permanently Blue" and "Ban M-16s" Reagan. Somehow he is a "right wing hero" in the US.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Haha, her policy is just complaining about Trump.

No, there's more but I only screenshot the bits malding about trump.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Can someone explain this mentality to me. I just don't understand someone going "Yes, I'm going to vote X because of this single event" only to a couple weeks/month later to suddenly change their mind "Nah, my enthusiasm has worn off. I don't think I'm going to vote for them anymore.

Kamala's been largely outside of the spotlight so for many she was the fabled "Generic Democrat" and now she's in the spotlight so people are increasingly seeing Kamala Harris instead of Generic Democrat

 

[I Hate The Disabled]

No, there's more but I only screenshot the bits malding about trump.

I watched the DNC, it was all Trump this, Trump that. Her whole campaign centers around Trump. Her campaign policy page on her website talks about Trump more than her policies.

 

[Seething Troon Collector]

Kamala Harris has finally put up a policy page:

https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

Every section has a special Trump section:

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havent seen this much hedging outside of a maze

This isn't a policy platform. This is a screed smugly blaming everything bad that's happened in the last 4 years on the previous administration mixed with all of the fear about LITERALLY HITLER 2.0 that culminated in some mentally deranged zoomer blowing off a part of Trump's ear in an almost successful assassination attempt.

You know what I could do in 2016 through 2020? Buy a house, spend less than $200 on groceries for a week, not give a fuck about politics because everything was going just fine, and go to sleep at night and not have to wonder if I was going to become the victim of a nuclear exchange between Russia and the US over some failed foreign policy adventure that killed hundreds of thousands of people and displaced millions more.

Also can shut they fuck up about Project 2025? It's a think tank's wet dream that they falsely pin on Trump because they need some scary boogie man phrase to confuse people. Everyone I know in the real world doesn't even know what the fuck Project 2025 is, apart from what they hear from MSNPC about defunding the government and putting gay people in concentration camps and stupid shit. Most of the people I know who screech about it can't read critically and that P2025 book has a lot of big scary words in it, they don't like big scary thinking words.

 

[CaddestSlown]

I watched the DNC, it was all Trump this, Trump that. Her whole campaign centers around Trump. Her campaign policy page on her website talks about Trump more than her policies.

You can tell the democrats are all about regulating and lowering housing / property prices, because they let Orange Man live rent free in their heads! Ayooooo!

 

[Kane Lives]

You can tell the democrats are all about regulating and lowering housing / property prices, because they let Orange Man live rent free in their heads! Ayooooo!

Call it what it is: Trump is the new religious Satan for leftists.

I legitimately am bemused "enlightened" leftists cant even see how they're spouting "trump bad, republikkkans bad" just like their boogeyman of christcucks of old. Especially if you're a non-American repeating the same talking point word for word despite not even living in the country.

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

Can someone explain this mentality to me. I just don't understand someone going "Yes, I'm going to vote X because of this single event" only to a couple weeks/month later to suddenly change their mind "Nah, my enthusiasm has worn off. I don't think I'm going to vote for them anymore.

You know that feeling when you have a horrific sinus infection where your face is simultaneously numb but also approaching the limit of suffering that the human mind can endure without crumbling, and after a few days of wanting to die you blow your nose and what can only be described as death itself is resting in your tissue and your body instantly relaxes, the pain subsides, and you're able to enjoy the excess endorphins your body has been pumping you full of to take the edge off of the pain?

Well, now the endorphins have worn off and the second phase of pressure build-up is beginning because the infection isn't gone yet

 

[CarlKingofDucks]

Sad thing is roughly 45% of people will likely take all of the harris campaign shit as truth as use that as 'proof' of trumps 2025 plan

 

[Gehenna]

So my understanding on this is that on most polls sample sizes are irrelevant because they are supposed to be weighting the results against what they believe the actual sample size should be.

See:

To channel Rich Baris for a moment, over-sampling is not the same thing as over-representing. Over-sampling isn't necessarily a bad thing, if you're trying to get a sample that looks like what you think the electorate will look like. What is a bad thing is over-representing, where your sample doesn't look like the actual electorate. Is R+3 an over-representation? We can't know until the election, but from what we do know based on trends in voter registration and in past elections, it's probably not far off.

What Spasticus is getting to is the concept of Weighting. https://www.pewresearch.org/methods/2018/01/26/how-different-weighting-methods-work/

This is -incredibly- important to getting accurate results.

Now, in a sane, non-clownworld I would point out that with weighting oversampling means nothing so looking at a Dem +7 poll shouldn't matter. Except... we live in clown world. So most of the major polling outfits have either stopped weighting all together or are weighting for metrics so off base as to be farcical.