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As we go into the debate, I’ve been thinking…

Trump has a very high bar to clear. He did extremely well during his debate with Biden, sure. That means that he has to meet (more like exceed, really) that performance in order for it to be considered a success for him. I’m fairly confident that he will achieve this, though.

My only concern is if the bar for CumAllah is being set too low. It seems that everyone everywhere is expecting her to bomb horribly. Therefore, if she puts on a barely passable performance, there’s a risk that it’ll be considered a triumph/be spun as a win in a way that normies will believe.
 
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Dems: THESE GREEDY CEOS ARE EXPLOITING THE WORKING CLASS! LIVABLE WAGES FOR ALL! BILLIONAIRE GREED IS KILLING US ALL! TAX THE RICH!

Also Dems: LMAO none of the CEOs of the biggest companies companies on the planet support Trump! I see this as an absolute win! Trump owned!

Dick Cheney, Putin, the richest CEOs on the planet. At this rate Cuthulu is gonna come out of the sea and endorse Kamala and somehow the NPCs and media will try to spin it as owning Trump
 
As we go into the debate, I’ve been thinking…

Trump has a very high bar to clear. He did extremely well during his debate with Biden, sure. That means that he has to meet (more like exceed, really) that performance in order for it to be considered a success for him. I’m fairly confident that he will achieve this, though.

My only concern is if the bar for CumAllah is being set too low. It seems that everyone everywhere is expecting her to bomb horribly. Therefore, if she puts on a barely passable performance, there’s a risk that it’ll be considered a triumph/be spun as a win in a way that normies will believe.
I agree. I think Trumps goal should be to win over normies while shining a light on Kamalas failures (and asking for specific policies) in a relatable way. Kamala really only need to be marginally likeable to secure her votes.
 
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As we go into the debate, I’ve been thinking…

Trump has a very high bar to clear. He did extremely well during his debate with Biden, sure. That means that he has to meet (more like exceed, really) that performance in order for it to be considered a success for him. I’m fairly confident that he will achieve this, though.

My only concern is if the bar for CumAllah is being set too low. It seems that everyone everywhere is expecting her to bomb horribly. Therefore, if she puts on a barely passable performance, there’s a risk that it’ll be considered a triumph/be spun as a win in a way that normies will believe.
Normally I'd agree, it was my worry for the Trump v Biden debate, but this one is unique. Kamala... has no platform. And a lot of the people who might vote for her -on her own side- want to see it. This is her shining moment, her chance to finally make her platform clear. Its also her only chance. She has to not just not fuck up, she has to set out her vision. And failing to do so means massive, horrible, terrible voter depression on her side. And she has to do this while under fire from Trump.
 
A thorough report on how the Biden-Harris administration failed in Afghanistan was released.

Biden-Harris admin prioritized 'optics' of Afghanistan withdrawal 'over the security of US personnel,' 'directly lied' to Americans: report​

A new report released by the House Foreign Affairs Committee chair Michael McCaul (R-TX) revealed that the Biden-Harris administration had prioritized the optics of withdrawing from Afghanistan over the security of those on the ground in their decision to pull troops from the country, a decision that saw the deaths of 13 US servicemembers.

Over the course of three years, the committee, led by McCaul, conducted a "thorough investigation into the US withdrawal from Afghanistan." Among the five primary conclusions from the investigation was that the administration "prioritized the optics of the withdrawal over the security of US personnel on the ground. For that reason, they failed to plan for all contingencies, including a noncombatant emergency evacuation (NEO) and refused to order a NEO until after the Taliban had already entered Kabul."

The 354-page report stated that senior administration officials were "willfully blind to warnings" about the situation on the ground presented to them by US military personnel, US intelligence assessments, American and international media reports, and State Department personnel in Kabul. "Instead, they consistently prioritized the optics of maintaining a large US embassy presence over the safety of embassy personnel."

The committee’s investigation found that senior State Department and National Security Council officials "equated a NEO with failure," and that this partially explained "the decision to keep Embassy Kabul open no matter the cost and their refusal to plan for a NEO."

"Indeed, testimony obtained by the committee reveals the administration failed to even contemplate a plan for a NEO with the Taliban in control of the country. This failure is inexcusable in light of warnings from Embassy Kabul personnel and the Defense Department that a Taliban takeover was imminent following the military withdrawal," the report stated.

Following the order to remove troops from Biden, "only two interagency rehearsal of concept (ROC) drills were conducted, and the embassy did not fully engage in NEO planning until August 6th — a little more than a week prior to the fall of Kabul," the report stated.

"In viewing a NEO as failure, Ambassador [Ross] Wilson ignored triggers set by the Defense Department and refused to call the NEO until August 15th — as the Taliban were marching into Kabul and three days after the US embassy began transferring staff to [Hamid Karzai International Airport]." The report stated that evidence gathered by the committee pointed to Wilson, Chief of Mission to US Embassy Kabul, as being "a key figure in the unwillingness to properly plan for a NEO."

"The concern that a NEO equated to failure was a consistent theme in the administration’s approach to the Afghanistan withdrawal. As a result, some in the administration — especially leaders within the NSC and the State Department — were loathe to plan for one. A State Department employee told After Action Review interviewers that those at the department did not want to use the word NEO and it was seen as "taboo."

Brigadier General Sullivan said that attempts to talk to embassy leadership in early August 2021 about possible evacuations was "like pulling teeth," with a US military officer saying, "We had [an] ad hoc meeting with the Embassy but they didn’t want to talk about [a] NEO."

The administration also "misled and, in some instances, directly lied to the American people at every stage of the withdrawal, from before the go-to-zero order until today. This coverup included mid-level administration officials all the way up to the Oval Office," the report stated, adding that the investigation revealed the National Security Council and National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan "were of the source of the majority of that misinformation campaign."

"There is one primary party responsible withholding or misrepresenting critical information to the American public: the NSC led by NSA Sullivan. Throughout the course of the majority’s investigation, multiple witnesses have pointed to the NSC as leading not only the interagency coordination, but also the decision-making and day-to-day operations of the withdrawal," the report stated.

Citing testimony from former White House press secretary Jen Psaki, the report stated that she "conceded she received her talking points on the situation in Afghanistan directly from the NSC press team, who coordinated messaging across agencies. Further, she testified that she engaged directly with NSA Sullivan when questions arose. For this reason, the committee requested NSA Sullivan appear publicly before this committee, so the public can learn why it was kept in the dark or misled on so many key issues." This request was refused.

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I am genuinely curious if we are going to see the moderators go rogue as some pundits have done on lefty MSM outlets and actually attack Kamala.
Nothing would be make me happier than seeing Kamala get stabbed in the back by the lefty news media.
Normally I'd agree, it was my worry for the Trump v Biden debate, but this one is unique. Kamala... has no platform. And a lot of the people who might vote for her -on her own side- want to see it. This is her shining moment, her chance to finally make her platform clear. Its also her only chance. She has to not just not fuck up, she has to set out her vision. And failing to do so means massive, horrible, terrible voter depression on her side. And she has to do this while under fire from Trump.
I hope after tomorrow night Kamala will have had but a small taste of the failure coming her way in November.
 
Now I sorta feel bad for mocking him.
You realize that to be a blind lawyer takes a fuck ton of money right? You are not going to read a braille transcript of a law text book. Text to braille is like a 20x expansion. He grew up in the 70’s, he likely had someone read shit for him and then he memorized it that way.

@AnOminous was a lawyer, I don’t know when, but Daredevil is some bullshit. Without access to technology of the last 20 years a blind guy would never become a lawyer unless they were blinded during the end of their education. Computers have made that shit a lot easier as has text-to-speech.
But AnOminous could probably spell out the difficulties if he thought about it.
 
Debate begins right as my lunch break ends :( will still be able to listen though.
Are they even trying to pretend that they flood an area with immigrants because they want to help them? Only a complete idiot would think that when they see these people brought over and set free like a pack of stray dogs. It is to destroy a town, no other reason. They tried doing it to mine in 2018 but praise god it didn't go through.
Edit to mention that while we avoided being flooded with muslims the town was hit by a bunch of out of state professional homeless people who were bussed in, held in a mental facility, and when their time was up they were tossed to the streets with no aid. You cannot fucking tell me this isn't being done on purpose to towns that are somewhat safe and decent, and it'll be done until there is nowhere left that is safe and decent. Because clearly it wasn't to "help people"
 
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"She ACTUALLY said she supported that? 🤨"
"She... Both WROTE and answered in the affirmative when she asked this."


I love how they are just BARELY veiling their "What the fuck" reaction.
And then doubling back on it with "These are... things that are hard to come up with tax payer funding for."

And closing with "It's pretty incredible stuff." to try and wrap a bow on it. Is CNN actually still trying to cheerlead or are they basically flabbergasted she's being this retarded so brazenly?
 
I am genuinely curious if we are going to see the moderators go rogue as some pundits have done on lefty MSM outlets and actually attack Kamala.
Trump is suing the network the debate is on for journalistic malpractice (further harming their already shattered credibility) and the moderators were outed as financially supporting Kamala. It would be a pretty big shock, more so than even the Biden debate team giving up on covering for the senile pedophile rapist, to see them turn on her in any meaningful way.
 
Is CNN actually still trying to cheerlead or are they basically flabbergasted she's being this retarded so brazenly?
I’d lean towards the latter, mostly owing to Kamala having enough media appearances to count on one hand. She’s been kept in a closet for so long by the Biden admin, that the MSM might not actually have any ideas on what her positions are, and are just as in the dark as the average joe.

The PtB are running her because she’s a Woman of Colour, but fuck me if they didn’t find the single biggest retard to possibly put in a position of power. She must give some damn good head, jesus fuck…
 
I’d lean towards the latter, mostly owing to Kamala having enough media appearances to count on one hand. She’s been kept in a closet for so long by the Biden admin, that the MSM might not actually have any ideas on what her positions are, and are just as in the dark as the average joe.

The PtB are running her because she’s a Woman of Colour, but fuck me if they didn’t find the single biggest retard to possibly put in a position of power. She must give some damn good head, jesus fuck…
She was never supposed to get this far in her career. She was never supposed to be VP, only picked for tokenism reasons and cause she was useless and stupid. She was sure as shit never supposed to be the President and figurehead of the Democrats. But that's kind of a microcosm of the left in 2024 -- their DEI push and the cult of the identity flags mean they're stuck with her, no matter how bad she is for the job. To the point that there are no doubt much better straight white male candidates that are de-facto banned from even trying in 2028 cause progress only goes one way and we've had a black presidential candidate and a female candidate and thus all future candidates have to be at least that diverse or else. But don't worry Tabula Rasa theory means that any black woman off the street will do as long as they had the opportunities a BIll Clinton or Obama had, so this DEI-flavored restriction will not hinder them, right?
 
So Harris is 30% likely to no show. Thanks, Pelosi!
What are the likelihood that kamala campaign actually believes she is a good debator and come out of this winning?
Only the retards (and the alcoholics able to keep their mouths shut) are still there so she could be hearing that.
Springfield, OH has become a dumping ground for Hatian migrants to an alarming degree that it's caused the town to turn into a Little Haiti, and ugly rumors are circulating of residents' pets and park wildlife disappearing and being eaten by the barbarian 'groids.
It's more than rumors. The videos are on Musk's Twitter and they aren't going down.
Dont tell me they are not stupid enough to seriously think about it.
Of course they are.
I hope you guys remember to bring your popcorn.
Goddamnit I knew i forgot something at the grocery store!
Normally I'd agree, it was my worry for the Trump v Biden debate, but this one is unique. Kamala... has no platform. And a lot of the people who might vote for her -on her own side- want to see it. This is her shining moment, her chance to finally make her platform clear. Its also her only chance. She has to not just not fuck up, she has to set out her vision. And failing to do so means massive, horrible, terrible voter depression on her side. And she has to do this while under fire from Trump.
Since this is the only debate the pressure is absolutely on.
"She ACTUALLY said she supported that? 🤨"
"She... Both WROTE and answered in the affirmative when she asked this."


I love how they are just BARELY veiling their "What the fuck" reaction.
And then doubling back on it with "These are... things that are hard to come up with tax payer funding for."

And closing with "It's pretty incredible stuff." to try and wrap a bow on it. Is CNN actually still trying to cheerlead or are they basically flabbergasted she's being this retarded so brazenly?
CNN is the part of the Dem coalition that hates the progressive faction.
 
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