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I just tuned in. Who's winning?
No one really. Harris is coming off as weak and Trump as too heated, the moderators as biased and inept. Its the 2020 Biden debate all over again, this time without the TDS being as strong in the public. Meaning this looks like its going to be a wash. That being said ABC does appear to be using this more as an opportunity to push Establishment talking points over Prog ones, which interests me.
 
Trump's flustered; Kamala's been pretty smooth so far. Not completely surprised by it, but still a little surprised she's holding up so well. Again, it doesn't matter if she's full of shit, but with the aid of these commentators she's looking very good to her base.
People saying otherwise are coping hard.
Trump's too all over the place and unfocused for normies.
 
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