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My end opinion, largely a wash but Harris failed or seriously blundered everything she actually set out to do while Trump maintained his personal status quo. Leaving aside the idea of who 'won' a debate, each candidate came in with a set goal. Trump's was fairly simple, to not provide too much ammo to the TDS crowd while sneaking in a few liens people will subconsciously fixate on come voting time.

Harris had the bigger task. She needed to give people a reason to vote for her. As I have said before, people do vote -against- a candidate but they have justify it to themselves as voting -for- another. Harris has absolutely nothing, No policy, nobody voted for her, and the line "Why haven't you done it already" drives a massive nail in the final possibility, hope she would do -something-. She utterly failed that and managed to drop a few blunders that seriously hurt the very thing she needed to reinforce.

So, as a debate this was a weash. As a tactical objective? Trump maintained his goal, Harris undermined her own. Long-term, this debate was a loss for Harris more than a victory for Trump.

Exactly, the only real "win" condition here for Kamala was to get Trump to completely lose his mind and shit his pants like Biden does every day. She failed in this task. Trump spent more time fighting the moderators than he did Kamala because she's an empty suit.
 
The owner of the company? The pro-Trump Republican one?
Pro-Trump

The media titan’s attendance in Milwaukee was another extraordinary turn in his contorted relationship with Donald J. Trump.

contorted​


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Phonetic (Standard)IPA

adjective​

  1. twisted in a violent manner; distorted.
  2. twisted back on itself; convoluted.
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She's also pro war and pro establishment. She praised both Dick Cheney and John McCain. She called John late and great.
Eh, I'm less enthused about that because it really doesn't hurt her image with her own voters.
Kamala voters don't care that Cheney and McCain were literally Hitler 20 years ago. That was 20 years ago! No, what matters is the guy who is literally Hitler right now.
The only group the Neocon endorsements worsened her image with are people who wouldn't have voted for her to begin with.
 
So, as a debate this was a weash. As a tactical objective? Trump maintained his goal, Harris undermined her own. Long-term, this debate was a loss for Harris more than a victory for Trump.
She didn't come off strong or likable, first 30 minutes she was a shaking nervous wreck. End she was worn out. Middle did pretty good. Trump was opposite. Good start/finish. Mediocre middle 30 min.

I don't see how this changes anyone's mind really. But can't tell for a week probably.
 
Lol I can tell you either didn't watch it or were too busy daydreaming about him penetrating you to be listening. She completely destroyed him. She beat him so bad that might be classified as elder abuse
Before the shitstorm gets started proper, let me just say I have to admire the fact you're KF's Bloody Mary.
 
The owner of the company? The pro-Trump Republican one?
The one that fired Tucker Carlson, is super pro Dubya uniparty and hired Paul Ryan for sabotaging Trumps first 2 years, paid out the biggest settlement ever to Dominion, and has children that are actively liberal and are being given control of the company?

What makes you think he is Pro Trump? He wanta Trump voters to watch his channel. Because hes running the definition of the controlled opposition designed to constrain acceptable discourse.
 
Lol I can tell you either didn't watch it or were too busy daydreaming about him penetrating you to be listening. She completely destroyed him. She beat him so bad that might be classified as elder abuse
I'm getting out of here before the inevitable flame war begins. Good night everybody
 
I don't think tonight really made any kind of difference. I do feel like Trump didn't have a clear answer on the health care question and stumbled a bit there. Everything else though was unmemorable, except for him using her line against her.

I'm really surprised they keep going with the "very fine people" shit again. Even Snopes debunked it a couple of months ago.
No, Trump Did Not Call Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists 'Very Fine People' (a)

edit: changed typo from memorable to unmemorable
 
I know Hollywood Hulk Hogan and his followers made a poor choice supporting Kamala.
He’s just mad that the wholesome Christian family man Sting came down out of the rafters and hit him with a baseball bat.
Thequartering going on about how it's over for Trump lol. Fuck him. Said Trump blew it.
He’s a center left retard.
(I'm retarded)
Everyone on this website is.
It sure stinks of doomerfaggot in here. Total Doomnigger Death.
Completely.
Let's see how many people start trying doom and say trump lost the debate.
A lot have already. I hate this shit. Fucking Doomers.
This dumb bitch wants seconds lol. It won’t be ABC again, does she know that?
Remember the Fox News debate that got turned into a town hall?
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There’s no way a woman uses this site.
 
My end opinion, largely a wash but Harris failed or seriously blundered everything she actually set out to do while Trump maintained his personal status quo. Leaving aside the idea of who 'won' a debate, each candidate came in with a set goal. Trump's was fairly simple, to not provide too much ammo to the TDS crowd while sneaking in a few lines people will subconsciously fixate on come voting time.

Harris had the bigger task. She needed to give people a reason to vote for her. As I have said before, people do vote -against- a candidate but they have justify it to themselves as voting -for- another. Harris has absolutely nothing, No policy, nobody voted for her, and the line "Why haven't you done it already" drives a massive nail in the final possibility, hope she would do -something-. She utterly failed that and managed to drop a few blunders that seriously hurt the very thing she needed to reinforce.

So, as a debate this was a eash. As a tactical objective? Trump maintained his goal, Harris undermined her own. Long-term, this debate was a loss for Harris more than a victory for Trump.
Trump is gonna Trump and dominate the debate as he has always done.

What you don't want is a calm and boring debate because that makes kamala look presidential. Him raw dogging the moderators and kamala is a way for him to get away from putting a limelight on her.

In the end, once the abortion question was done, it was a matter of carrying on.
 
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