Sony hate thread

60 to 120 feels like less of a jump than 30 to 60, but is still noticeable, so I'd say that is where diminishing returns begin. People seem to think diminishing returns is when you can't see any improvement at all, it's when you stop getting your bang for your buck. Can you notice a difference between 1080p and 4k? Sure. Is it as noticeable as the difference between 480 and 1080? Fuck no. By definition, that's a diminishing return.
 
Battlefield Bad Company 2 launched 14 years ago.
Nintey Nine nights launched 18 years ago
Kingdom Under Fire launched 19 years ago.

What the fuck happened in that time where games got more fucking boring? When was the last truly genre-defining, technology-bending, massively impressive game? Pre-2010?
Games today are just rehashes of rehashes of rehashes. People are afraid to take risks and rely on established brands - and people keep buying remake after remaster after remaster.
 
IIRC the PlayStation 2 was hacked using a disc drive related vulnerability. Another good reason not to bother with digital-only consoles: one less attack vector.
It was the DVD player update on the memory card. And the drive vulns are useless, both because they don't allow you to modify anything, and second - it has a web browser. Which is infinitely easier to exploit, always and forever
 
I do have a PS5 and all the games I've played have looked good in 60fps mode, or ones like Spiderman 2 played at 40fps for a good middle ground. The only two games that have looked like ass at 60fps are FF16 and FF7 Remake Part 2. PC is clearly better, and since I got a new PC, mostly play games there, but none of the games on PS5 were crying out for a upgrade, unlike with PS4 when some games were having issues sticking to even 30fps and 4k TVs were the new thing on the market.

I do wonder if PS5 Pro is more of a test, see how many people are willing to spend $700+ on a console, and to test out their AI upscaling to get ready for what ever the PS6 is.
 
I think we had a thread about this and Oblivion was kind of the consensus answer.
I never played oblivion. BRB hitting the seas.
Games today are just rehashes of rehashes of rehashes. People are afraid to take risks and rely on established brands - and people keep buying remake after remaster after remaster.
It's a damned shame.
 
It's still a pretty good game, but probably won't have the same impact in 2024. You have to compare it to the standard for big-budget games in 2006 to really appreciate what a watershed title it was.
As it strange as it may sound, i will enjoy it more now than I would have then. I skipped it in 2006 because I was playing other games. I've recently done a run of a few OG Xbox games from 2004 and 2005 and it's the most fun I've had in years. Even though the graphics suck, I didn't notice that they sucked. The textures were poor and the faces had like 3 animations, but it helped the aesthetic of the game.

Side-sperg - I saw a screenshot of FF7 remake vs FF7 original, one that showed a bajillion different shit on screen in super-high res, vs a bland texture of ff7 and I honestly preferred the bland texture. FF7 remake looks soulless, like a netflix original film or hollywood B-roll movie.
 
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Imagine complaining about anti-consumer practices and overpriced hardware and then saying you're switching to Nintendo.
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  • 50 bucks price bump (-> 350€) for a larger and better screen, double the storage, improved speakers, battery life, a kickstand that actually works and an added built-in Ethernet port.
versus
  • an increase of over 250 pennies (->800€) for better grass, zero guarantee of better performance, the disc drive being removed by default and SIE still not bothered to include the stand that they keep displaying on every ad.
I’ve been past the point of autistically caring about hardware specs since modern 3D games hardly take advantage from anyway, aside of resolution and framerate, and the artist long stopped to be held back artistically by the specs but rather by themselves instead. That’s why PS4 games (and even PS3 games thanks to their art direction) still look good while Switch was also able to last as long as it did.

The Switch also does a good enough job for ~90% of the videogames I care about these days, which are primordially Japanese, old western titles and indies.
For anyone who does care about specs, the choice of PC is pretty obvious at this point.
 
Lmao, I just bought one of these a couple weeks ago. Why would you ever get a console at this point? I like my base PS5 but you might as well just plug a PC into your TV at this point.
Turbonormies. Human Resources.
People whose computer literacy extends to PowerPoint and Word, yet fancy themselves gamers and quirky or whatever. They play games like FIFA for 30 minutes once in a full moon laying down on the couch.

edit: kek I just realized the $700 is €800 that's hilarious. This better be one hell of a performance bump.

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I have never really felt like I NEEDED 120 fps or anything above 60 really. 60 feels and looks great but anything above that and I just sort of fail to notice.
In my opinion you only need high fps on competitive games, especially shooters. Ever since everybody started playing with at least 120hz refresh rates, playing on 60 is actually a handicap in games like Valorant. But for games like Cyberpunk, Elden Ring etc. yeah perfectly enjoyable with 60fps. Everything higher than that is because you can, not because you need.
 
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The one thing consoles still have over PCs is the lack of faggy RGB everywhere.
Why is RGB even a thing with PC stuff? Can't you find parts that DON'T have that or is it just the default that's associated with "gaming"?

I'd rather go back to the gigantic white monoliths from the 90's than use anything that has RGB
 
Why is RGB even a thing with PC stuff? Can't you find parts that DON'T have that or is it just the default that's associated with "gaming"?

I'd rather go back to the gigantic white monoliths from the 90's than use anything that has RGB
I started buying used enterprise workstations in recent years and never want to go back. They're built like brick shithouses compared to consumer PCs, have great layout and airflow, and I don't have worry about any "1337 gamer" trappings.
 
It's a shame to see how far Sony has fallen since the days of the PS2. Funny as hell, but still a shame. You would think someone at Sony would have learned the lesson by now, but who knows, maybe they have a humiliation fetish.
Ironic but true. Was just thinking that the last PlayStation machine worth buying, that was infact completely superior in it's time was the PlayStation 2. The only console other then the Saturn that I really loved and still hold a huge original software library for. The PS2 was the machine that really gave Sony complete domination of the console market, and they've not been able to come close to it's level of domination ever since. the PS3 was a boondoggle with it's Cell architecture and the hassles involved with developing for the first true HD console, the PS4 was just coasting on the laurels of the past and the PS5, well......do I need to even say it? Never since the dawn of the console has there been so clear an excuse to just fucking get a computer.
 
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