Unpopular views about music

[Wot Zit Too Yah0996]

I think they’ve raped hundreds of thousands of kids who now think that moody and overly-pretentious hip hop, like Portishead or the entire roster of MoWax, is considered to be the definition of trip hop.

Even still, I'd rather listen to Portishead than Massive Attack.

@The Hardest R Chapman was a psycho nutter, but just to show my bias, Harrison was the best out of The Beatles.

 

[Wot Zit Too Yah0996]

I love that line in the Army of the Doomstar where Nathan is talking to Murderface, who feels like he is simply an unvalued piece of the band, and Nathan says "you don't hear the bass; you feel it."


I've always taken "Imagine" in the same vein as the Beach Boys "Wouldn't It be Nice", just as John saying it would be great if humans didn't kill each other over trivial shit all the time and not as a manifesto and the roadmap to a better world. God knows John might say "no possessions" in the song but he wasn't giving up his riches. Dennis was just singing he wishes he and that girl could go ahead and get married and start a new life together and John is wishing humans didn't suck.

Dennis was singing that he wishes he could go ahead and BANG.

 

[Wild at Heart]

It might not be an unpopular opinion here, but to the greater public my age it is. I listen to rap and enjoy it while driving or doing something where I don't need to focus. I do however think the genre as a whole is built upon theft and laziness. "Sampling" is theft. "Production" is just stealing with a vision, and mashing the stolen good music onto the computer and adding drums. Rap has been held back by production and pure laziness for a few decades now. Some rappers come out to live bands and instrumentation at Coachella or other festivals, but never decide to use real instruments for their albums.

"All art is theft" is said often, but usually those artists who stole used that technique to apply it to their own craft and full effort and created something within the same medium. Rap is like taking pictures of amazing paintings and making a collage everyone freaks out over. Most fans don't even know the original song. My adult life has been filled with discovering old music and saying "holy shit this was a sample too?" and loving the original song more.

Comparing the theft of existing songs to the writing and performing of original songs is a joke.

Here is Playboi Carti playing one of his big songs with an actual guitarist, it gives the entire song ENERGY and a pulse, why not do this for all of your songs instead of rapping over the instrumental track playing through some speakers?

 

[The Hardest R]

It takes a long time to be good enough to play the electric guitar but only a few hours if even that to get a sample and select a drum pattern. You have to practice practically daily to stay sharp with a guitar but you can just stay sippin’ on that sizzurp if just make beats on a laptop instead. I also think rap bands got defined by The Roots which didn’t help matters. I don’t think they’re bad but it took rap bands in a direction that doesn’t inspire energy.

As utterly batshit as Kanye is these days, bringing on Italian ultras to chant on a track is a more novel idea than yet another dogshit SoundCloud rapper with a trap beat.

 

[Dover Demon]

This one probably wouldnt be unpopular here but anywhere else on the internet you'd get ass raped for it: electronic music, especially drum and bass, has been completely ruined by tranny shit and weeb shit. In the 90s there were regularly great dnb and jungle songs coming out from pioneers like LTJ Bukem and his Good Looking Records label, Goldie, 4hero, et cetera

The only people making relatively popular drum and bass or dnb-inspired music nowadays just have to force in their SO HECKIN RETRO underage anime girls and fake ps1 aesthetics to get attention from other trannies so they don't notice how lame the actual music is. yeah 90s dnb could get repetitive but there was an art to chopping drums, flipping a sample and building up a satisfying progression throughout the track. Zoomer trannies think the only thing required to make dnb is going into FL studio and shoving in an amen break and anime moaning samples on top of a generic synth pad. Anyone who actually likes shit like Sewerslvt, goreshit or all the hundreds of other axewovnd-style names that copied them need to be put on a sex offender registry.

also anyone who thinks classical > jazz is an autist, classical music isnt bad and maybe it's more "complex" but classical doesn't usually have the same variety or creativity as jazz generally does and it's not nearly as fun or engaging to listen to

 

[Lowlife Adventures]

classical > jazz is an autist, classical music isnt bad and maybe it's more "complex" but classical doesn't usually have the same variety or creativity as jazz generally does and it's not nearly as fun or engaging to listen to

Sort of agree. Pre-19th C., (aside from the big name composers though even Bach & Beethoven have a lot of duds) all use the same progressions too often. Post 19th Classical composers dropped the ball when they prematurely declared that tonality was exhausted and skipped over things like syncopation (I don't care if Beethoven's piano sonata 32 used syncopated rhythms, because it was never widely adopted by other composers anyway), unpitched percussion, and electric instruments. Yeah you can find avant garde classical with those elements but you'll never find any approachable stuff that does. You'll have better luck with video game/film music (however, the nature of these mediums causes the music to be too short & lacking in development).

edit: Classical as it is now has an aversion to repetition, which is why it's not so fun to listen to. I hate the idea that repetition and complexity are mutually exclusive. Mozart, Beethoven, and Bach all utilized repetition very often and you'd be crazy to say they aren't complex.

 

[PunkinMan]

No one seems to notice that niggers are so lazy that they legitimately use children's songs to make music because they ran out of brain power long ago.
Only example I can think of atm
“Dr. Suess” by Ski Mask the Slump God.
Half the time I hear a song start to go YUH RED FISH BLUE FISH 1 FISH 2 FISH, put the fucking power drill in my eardrum.

 

[Wot Zit Too Yah0996]

Harry Nilsson's cover of Everybody's Talkin' is so annoyingly popular in comparison to the original, by Fred Neil, that I wouldn't be surprised that people think Harry Nilsson's version IS the original. Iggy Pop did a cover, too. It ain't bad.

I'm not one of those annoying mouth-breathing twits who's like, "Hurr durr, original always better! Remake/Cover suck!", but the original is better in my mind. If anyone wants to listen to either of the two (Fred Neil and Iggy Pop), here they are:

 

[Gypsy Man]

This one probably wouldnt be unpopular here but anywhere else on the internet you'd get ass raped for it: electronic music, especially drum and bass, has been completely ruined by tranny shit and weeb shit. In the 90s there were regularly great dnb and jungle songs coming out from pioneers like LTJ Bukem and his Good Looking Records label, Goldie, 4hero, et cetera

The only people making relatively popular drum and bass or dnb-inspired music nowadays just have to force in their SO HECKIN RETRO underage anime girls and fake ps1 aesthetics to get attention from other trannies so they don't notice how lame the actual music is. yeah 90s dnb could get repetitive but there was an art to chopping drums, flipping a sample and building up a satisfying progression throughout the track. Zoomer trannies think the only thing required to make dnb is going into FL studio and shoving in an amen break and anime moaning samples on top of a generic synth pad. Anyone who actually likes shit like Sewerslvt, goreshit or all the hundreds of other axewovnd-style names that copied them need to be put on a sex offender registry.

Nowadays if you produce Jungle DnB, it would be considered as "Breakcore" for zoomers. A traditional Breakcore track is 2x faster the tempo (e.g. Venetian Snares) but these mongoloids label every track with Amen in it as breakcore because of some shit that has to do with TikTok. Due to this tranniade and the misleading genre, it's really impossible to become a Jungle producer.

 

[Chieftain Coke Peanut]

Not sure how unpopular it is, but I like pure instrumentals the most. If I hear a person start singing it immediately subtracts a point or two. And worse yet if I hear a woman start singing it's minus three off the bat. Maybe it's because I listen to metal.

 

[William Murderface]

Harry Nilsson's cover of Everybody's Talkin' is so annoyingly popular in comparison to the original, by Fred Neil, that I wouldn't be surprised that people think Harry Nilsson's version IS the original. Iggy Pop did a cover, too. It ain't bad.

I'm not one of those annoying mouth-breathing twits who's like, "Hurr durr, original always better! Remake/Cover suck!", but the original is better in my mind. If anyone wants to listen to either of the two (Fred Neil and Iggy Pop), here they are:

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Harry Nilsson's version is more popular because it was on the Midnight Cowboy soundtrack and he was huge in the late 60s and early 70s, in no small part due to his association with the Beatles. It's only natural that his version is more well known.

I'm of the opinion that covers are their own special creature and that they can be something close to what the original version was or as far away as possible, but can be something unique and sometimes the cover is simply, for lack of a better term, better. I think the classic example is "Hurt" originally by Nine Inch Nails but the definitive version is from Johnny Cash. Reznor's version does what it does, but Cash's version has so much pain in it, after a lifetime of pain, that even Reznor admitted that the song is no longer his.

 

[Tequila Jong]

In the 90s there were regularly great dnb and jungle songs coming out from pioneers like LTJ Bukem and his Good Looking Records label, Goldie, 4hero, et cetera

The only people making relatively popular drum and bass or dnb-inspired music nowadays just have to force in their SO HECKIN RETRO underage anime girls and fake ps1 aesthetics to get attention from other trannies so they don't notice how lame the actual music is.

Some twat I was speaking to on Discord a few years back introduced me to this fucking squeaky-voiced-tranime-wankfest. All it did was make me appreciate the variety of DnB that used to be around in the 90s/Early 00s.

Spoiler: Said variety

Speaking of Good Looking Records, I always loved the chillout/downtempo stuff they put out.

 

[Calandrino]

even Bach & Beethoven have a lot of duds)

I'm reminded of Beethoven's comments on his own "Wellington's Victory", Op. 91

Beethoven was well aware of the triviality of the work and responded to similar criticism in his own time: "What I shit is better than anything you could ever think up!"[7]

 

[Wot Zit Too Yah0996]

Harry Nilsson's version is more popular because it was on the Midnight Cowboy soundtrack and he was huge in the late 60s and early 70s, in no small part due to his association with the Beatles. It's only natural that his version is more well known.

I'm of the opinion that covers are their own special creature and that they can be something close to what the original version was or as far away as possible, but can be something unique and sometimes the cover is simply, for lack of a better term, better. I think the classic example is "Hurt" originally by Nine Inch Nails but the definitive version is from Johnny Cash. Reznor's version does what it does, but Cash's version has so much pain in it, after a lifetime of pain, that even Reznor admitted that the song is no longer his.

I've never seen Midnight Cowboy, but I get your point. Yeah. I'm not a big fan of Harry Nilsson. The only songs I know of his are Everybody's Talkin', and Jump Into the Fire. Jump Into the Fire is my favourite, it's such a bop, and Chris Cornell's cover from his album, No One Sings Like You Anymore, is really good, though, in this case, I prefer the original, and I ended up liking it more because of Goodfellas, which, because it was distorted, in order to represent Henry's paranoia, made it sound like a song by The Cult.

I've tried to listen to the original Hurt, and I can only listen part-way through. For some reason, I can't be arsed. Thinking on it, it's because I share your opinion: I prefer Johnny Cash's rendition, and, again, throwing in, and comparing films, I liked that version more when I heard it on a trailer for Logan, with a tired-sounding James Howlett and Charles Xavier having a conversation.

Oh, yeah, before I wrap this up, Chris Cornell did a really nice cover of Nothing Compares 2 U, which is also featured on No One Sings Like You Anymore.

@cactus I disagree, and I do like both versions, NIN's much less so, but Trent Reznor sounds MORE whiny to me when he starts belting out, "AND YOU CAN HAVE IT ALL..."

 

[Rick The Stick]

Not sure how unpopular it is, but I like pure instrumentals the most. If I hear a person start singing it immediately subtracts a point or two. And worse yet if I hear a woman start singing it's minus three off the bat. Maybe it's because I listen to metal.

I mainly listen to metal as well. You're just autistic.

 

[cactus]

Since people are on the topic, I hate the Johnny Cash version of "Hurt." As unsensitive as this is, it just sounds like an old man whining. I empathize more with the original as well.

 

[AnOminous]

Oh, yeah, before I wrap this up, Chris Cornell did a really nice cover of Nothing Compares 2 U, which is also featured on No One Sings Like You Anymore.

He was one of the only people after Sinead who captured the pain and regret in that song.

It's a really rare after a breakup love song that isn't bitter or stalker-y but just genuinely sorry.

RIP Chris Cornell RIP Sinead RIP Prince.

 

[Pond]

"Suck nigga fuck nigga i dont give a fuck nigga" -every rippity rap song by a chain-swanging dangle clangin niegger or nigress in the wickity WHUT? world.

 

[Wot Zit Too Yah0996]

"Suck nigga fuck nigga i dont give a fuck nigga" -every rippity rap song by a chain-swanging dangle clangin niegger or nigress in the wickity WHUT? world.

"I keep approachin' the Gates of Heaven, trippin' on lean, Nigga!"

@AnOminous Sinead broke after her son offed himself. I reckon she blamed herself for him being depressed, as she had her troubles, too.

 

[Calandrino]

Not sure how unpopular it is, but I like pure instrumentals the most. If I hear a person start singing it immediately subtracts a point or two. And worse yet if I hear a woman start singing it's minus three off the bat. Maybe it's because I listen to metal.

Pure music is the simply the highest and most abstract art, neurotypical lyricsfags will just have to sneed about it.

Since people are on the topic, I hate the Johnny Cash version of "Hurt." As unsensitive as this is, it just sounds like an old man whining. I empathize more with the original as well.

but Cash's version has so much pain in it, after a lifetime of pain,

He was an old man with a gravelly voice and folksy southern accent. If you found a guy who actually shot a man in Reno just to watch him die, he probably wouldn't be able to sing.