Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[Metamorpho]

Devon clearly struggles with anything more complex than the schoolyard 'NO YOU' line of argumentation.

My favourite response:

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Isn't Palestine really anti-semitic/homophobic though? Why would a gay Israeli couple even go there to get married in the first place there has to be better options

 

[AssignedEva]

Isn't Palestine really anti-semitic/homophobic though? Why would a gay Israeli couple even go there to get married in the first place there has to be better options

It's one of those well ackshually things, but interpreted by someone with brain damage. Depending on which part of Palestine you're looking at, they either clung onto the Ottoman laws (which never criminalised homosexuality) or repealed the British Mandate laws before Israel did. Israel sorta liberalised in the 60s but didn't repeal till the late 80s. Additionally, gay marriage is not recognised in Israel and despite the perception of Israel, outside of Tel Aviv Israelis are very socially conservative and don't like gays, so you could argue on a legal technicality that Palestine was "more liberal about homosexuality".

However the specifics on Palestinian law are unclear because obviously it's a complete clusterfuck - so in some cases it seems like they're still applying British Mandate law prohibiting homosexuality in places that "never recognised it". Moreover, unlike Israel, Palestine does not recognise any civil rights for homosexuals, and there's clearly a much more aggressive homophobic attitude with the West Bank attempting to ban all LGBT organisations. They don't throw gays off roofs (that footage was from ISIS in Iraq) but they do kill them or force them into marriages while raping the lesbians, and LGBT Palestinians often claim asylum in Israel.

Israel also half-recognises foreign gay marriages (especially in Tel Aviv) and there's discrimination protection, although it must be stressed that this only goes so far outside Tel Aviv. The person making this tweet is half-aware of these things, that gay Israelis have to go outside Israel to get gay married (usually to Cyprus, or they do some weird Mormon scam involving Provo, Utah and get married online) and that Israel isn't as gay friendly as it tries to present itself... but nobody's getting gay married in Palestine. Especially not Israelis.

 

[the inconfident]

I’m sure they’ve given out loads of tickets. Nebula peeps, press, friends and family, and at least morgana and pt did giveaways of 13 tickets each. Of course they don’t know exactly how many of those people will actually show up, which is why they need the stand by line to fill in those extra seats.

Any chance Contrapoints got a ticket?
Now seriously, I am sure this will be filled with those types of people who blindly support someone into their dreams just cause they're too coward to tell them the truth.
Choob does NOT and will NEVER be a good actor. It's going to be House of the Dragon all over again and again, just silly goofy youtuber performance pretending to be big in Hollywood.

And fuck... They're going to ruin Dracula by saying his ex is a tranny. Nothing is safe nowadays.

 

[Blue Gem Kosher Queen]

Right, what is the frankenstein reference about? They have plastic surgery? Pot, meet kettle, etc

I thought of it two ways: As the monster, they are mishmash of attributes seeking meaning a humanity while trapped in a society that insists on forcing them to be pieces of meat. As the doctor, the architects of their own doom by ambition and recklessness. That's when I realized I probably gave more thought to those lines than Chube did, which is the gayest thing I've done this year.

That fucking snort. Is like Chube prepared base performances for Sharako and whatever this character is and swapped them. The shrill, fake laugh of Sharako during the mud fights against Terfland sounds more befitting for what looks like an LA based vampire that struggles to hide its hunger and vice versa for the snort being more appropriate for a 'mannish' pirate, whereas Chube looks more willing to chew the ever loving shit out of the scenery and even seems more intimidating here.

Fuck it blud, I'm backseat acting, writing and directing now.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Any chance Contrapoints got a ticket?

You jest, but I think his ego taken enough of a bashing recently that he would, in a very misguided moment, arrange for one to be sent over as a "fuck you".
I honestly don't doubt he'd do that, he could lie to himself saying he was just being nice and mature and putting the past behind lololol

 

[The Jackal]

Isn't Palestine really anti-semitic/homophobic though? Why would a gay Israeli couple even go there to get married in the first place there has to be better options

Well, yeah, that was the reason I was pointing it out.

The original Devon tweet stills annoys the fuck out of me now, because not only is it a stupid suggestion that's obviously untrue (and which Devon himself obviously doesn't really believe), even if it were true, that's hardly a valid response to the illogicality of pro-gay westerners lending moral support to Hamas, who in turn definitely think pro-gay westerners deserve to die and are going to hell, is it? Saying 'well I think you want to kill gays' is just a way to stick his head in the sand and pretend that moral dilemma doesn't exist. And his retarded followers are lapping it up as though he's done something clever.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

Basically, Palestine isn't a real place to these people. Neither is Israel. They're just Dumbledore's Army and the Death Eaters, because they view the world basically through the lens of fandom. You can see this behavior with pro-Israel people as well, but those guys tend to occupy different internet niches. I wouldn't be surprised if some western Hamas stans thought Palestine was actually a metaphor for being good to each other or something.

 

[Three Gorillion Dollars]

I know this is probably old news to you guys, but I just started watching Fleabag and it's darkly obvious that ol' Choob is tying to be Phoebe Waller-Bridge. It's getting in the way of me actually enjoying the show. I'd never seen her before in anything but it's so uncanny.

 

[Excited Eraser]

Choob's agent must be hard at work again:

Aside from the waffling about lore, the article is only notable for consistently (bar one time) they'ing Olly:

As for what both of their connections to the Dracula character were ahead of this short, Thorn revealed that they were actually set to be "in a stage adaptation of Dracula in London," but Covid hit and got it shut down:

When I first read that I thought it was referring to Olly and Morgana both (it's a joint interview), but that's not true because this only applies to Olly. Morgana also gets a nice they'ing:

Ignis, believe it or not, was also set to perform Dracula, though theirs was "a newly written stage performance of Dracula" in "Sherman Oaks, California:"

And again here, where any normal person would read this sentence as both Olly and Morgana explaining this together:

For those coming into Dracula's Ex-Girlfriend hoping for some fun explorations of vampire lore, this might not be the right spot. When asked about the lore of the world Thorn crafted, they gleefully exclaimed how they "hate lore" and prefer to have "only meaning:"

But nope, it's definitely only Olly who said all that, his pompous bloviating is all over that quote.

Far be it from me to play pronoun police, even though the they shit makes everything completely unreadable, but Olly has in the past been extremely aggressive about pronouns. I'm kind of surprised he hasn't made them issue a correction, though this is such a nothing publication Olly probably didn't even read the article besides his own quotes.

 

[Hybrid Icing]

I know this is probably old news to you guys, but I just started watching Fleabag and it's darkly obvious that ol' Choob is tying to be Phoebe Waller-Bridge. It's getting in the way of me actually enjoying the show. I'd never seen her before in anything but it's so uncanny.

Meeting a man who slowly tries to become her would be a great arc if Fleabag ever gets a series 3.

 

[The Jackal]

Olly has in the past been extremely aggressive about pronouns.

He's stated before that he hates being they/them-ed. He calls it the "coward's they".

It's actually a great way to get under his skin while avoiding the social taboo on pointing out that troons are men.

Meeting a man who slowly tries to become her would be a great arc if Fleabag ever gets a series 3.

Won't happen unfortunately, but it would be fun to observe his reaction if Phoebe Waller-Bridge came out as a TERF.

 

[toobular]

Won't happen unfortunately, but it would be fun to observe his reaction if Phoebe Waller-Bridge came out as a TERF.

I would bet my house that if this happened Toob would say something along the lines of "If anyone needs a funny, tall and beautiful writer/actress they can just hire me instead" 100% seriously.

 

[Blue Gem Kosher Queen]

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One thing I definitely wanted to have in from the start is that Bell, who is [Dracula's] current girlfriend, doesn't call him Count Dracula by his full title every single time. It's just too silly. So I called him Didi, which is short for Vladimir and also sounds a little bit like Daddy, which is deliberate. And she has Didi tattooed on her neck, which is a deliberate reference to Andrew Tate, who got some of his alleged victims to tattoo his name on them. So it's just a little hint that this relationship she has with him is not entirely healthy.

Holy Chube blud. There was more thought put into this than how vampire powers work. This is like an even shittier Vivziepop retelling of Dracula.

 

[The Jackal]

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Holy Chube blud. There was more thought put into this than how vampire powers work. This is like an even shittier Vivziepop retelling of Dracula.

Dracula's name isn't Vladimir, it's Vlad (or at any rate, he's based on a real historical person named Vlad). Two completely different names from different countries and which aren't interchangeable. A minor point, but it shows his laziness and lack of care for the source material.

 

[AfghanBlue]

KEK

Shoulders are not your asset, tubey.
Funnily enough it appears only his and Morganas legs are long enough to actually touch the ground rather than rely on the little shortarse leg-shelf.

Would you look at that, Mr and Mrs Tube made it!
LOL at Olly absolutely dwarfing his wee Pa.
I wonder if Mrs Tube had a peculiar urge to vomit back in the hotel later, and a little cry (must be the jet lag and the funny plane food).

Brandon finally managed a post on the subject

Mentioning minimal details, no names other than he was in a film, no pictures other than 3 near identical entrance shots of only himself, no pics or mention of tube on the walk in, or at the overblown Q&A, which he was probably wondering what the fuck they were doing one for, on what is only supposed to be a schlocky po-mo B Movie -but No, because you see, ~Gender~ so of course it is a deeply serious and revolutionary peice of art, neigh, science & philosophy, and needs an Athenian airing so the world can keep up.

 

[Blue Gem Kosher Queen]

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Shoulders are not your asset, tubey.
Funnily enough it appears only his and Morganas legs are long enough to actually touch the ground rather than rely on the little shortarse leg-shelf.
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Would you look at that, Mr and Mrs Tube made it!
LOL at Olly absolutely dwarfing his wee Pa.

Brandon finally managed a post on the subject
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Mentioning minimal details, no names other than he was in a film, no pictures other than 3 near identical entrance shots of only himself.
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To think Brandon is the only gay man on frame and despite living up to every stereotype he still is the lesser faggot.

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Brandon finally managed a post on the subject

I'm not surprised. He's actually started moving into slightly more mainstream projects as of late, so he's probably over it. Shorts are also mostly done to gain experience with working with the medium - not a lot of people ever tend to see them since they're usually not that competently done. Which is why it's funny Olly does his as a huge Hollywood premiere.

 

[The Jackal]

Shoulders are not your asset, tubey.

He of course chose a dress which simultaneously emphasizes his broad shoulders, scrawny legs and lack of cleavage and hips to unflattering effect.

Which is why it's funny Olly does his as a huge Hollywood premiere.

The première is basically the whole point of the project. It fulfills the requirements of Choob's narcissism and Wiskus's ambition. It's clear he doesn't act for the love of the craft, he does it for occasions like this when he gets to be the centre of attention.

 

[AssignedEva]

Far be it from me to play pronoun police, even though the they shit makes everything completely unreadable, but Olly has in the past been extremely aggressive about pronouns. I'm kind of surprised he hasn't made them issue a correction, though this is such a nothing publication Olly probably didn't even read the article besides his own quotes.

Ollie plays pronoun police on twitter and his subreddit, because he sees those people as beneath him - much like how he won't permit "backseat acting" because he only values the opinions of acting professionals, or how his stand up was aimed at making other stand up comedians laugh, rather than the audience. He also attacks British institutions like the BBC. The Direct is an American website giving him positive press and they're "real journalists", so therefore he keeps his mouth shut. Or possibly is on too much of a narc high to even notice he got they/them'd.

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Shoulders are not your asset, tubey.
Funnily enough it appears only his and Morganas legs are long enough to actually touch the ground rather than rely on the little shortarse leg-shelf.
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Would you look at that, Mr and Mrs Tube made it!
LOL at Olly absolutely dwarfing his wee Pa.
I wonder if Mrs Tube had a peculiar urge to vomit back in the hotel later, and a little cry (must be the jet lag and the funny plane food).

Brandon finally managed a post on the subject
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Mentioning minimal details, no names other than he was in a film, no pictures other than 3 near identical entrance shots of only himself, no pics or mention of tube on the walk in, or at the overblown Q&A, which he was probably wondering what the fuck they were doing one for, on what is only supposed to be a schlocky po-mo B Movie -but No, because you see, ~Gender~ so of course it is a deeply serious and revolutionary peice of art, neigh, science & philosophy, and needs an Athenian airing so the world can keep up.
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Amusingly in that thumbnail of the group shot, Brandon passes better (as a butch lesbian) than Ollie. You can tell how disengaged he is with the project given he posted images that still have the Getty watermark on, while Ollie appears to have gone direct to the photographer or paid for the unwatermarked versions himself.
I feel bad for his parents, who have dressed in the way older well off upper-middle people dress to go to a fancy event and so look like they've accidentally wandered onto a red carpet of people trying low-rent Hollywood glamour, and I imagine they then had to watch the short and see their son strut about in ill-fitting fetish clothing while trying to act sexy. Some other points of note about Ollie's outfit:

He's wearing vampire teeth. I assume this is an attempt at "concept dressing" (like Margot Robbie doing Barbie outfits during the press tour) but really comes across like people dressing up to be silly (which is exactly how Brandon Rogers approached it).

Ollie is showing off his "lesbian manicure". This obviously makes no sense because he's wearing press-ons... and let's face it, anyone he's hooking up with has a penis.

I'm pretty sure this is the dress, which means he likely went to Harrods to browse and picked out this Costarellos gown for £1700 ($2200). I used to mock him for how much of a cheapskate he was with his occasion dressing, so I can't criticise him for that, but I will say that for that sort of price he could have got something made for him that actually could have flattered him. Or if not flattered him, at least not highlighted his shoulders. I guess Bryan isn't on a retainer.

The ugly cross necklace is from 666999ACC which is a sort of gothy cyberpunk slut raveware brand, mostly. It's London based but I'm sure he picked it out because he saw it on Instagram.

I don't know why Dave Wiskus makes those facial expressions but I think it's pretty obvious he's at least at half mast from having a Hollywood premiere and wants to fuck his "starlet".

The première is basically the whole point of the project. It fulfills the requirements of Choob's narcissism and Wiskus's ambition. It's clear he doesn't act for the love of the craft, he does it for occasions like this when he gets to be the centre of attention.

Yeah just as a refresher for anyone who's not familiar, this is what Wiskus said in some Nebula posts on the subject:

At the beginning of the year we started placing internal emphasis on prestige. Will a given feature, Original, or event move Nebula up-market or down-market? Unbundling was definitely an up-market move. Red carpet premieres are up-market moves. If we want to keep pushing in that direction, we need to dial up our Originals slate.

As Nebula evolves from being a home for creator-made videos into a full-fledged media company with a film and television studio, it means what we’re building is no longer simply a container; now we’re in the creating business. This adventure has been a lot of fun, and we’re learning a lot, building a Hollywood-compatible, creator-first system.

Ollie and Dave have the same mindset - filming in Hollywood and having a red carpet premiere there means they've not just made a weird short about Ollie's AGP fantasies but they are in fact Making A Real Film. Dave's a bit more cynical and sees it as marketing, which it is - they've once again rented out Harmony Gold but managed to get some pressers, which they wouldn't have if it was just launched on Nebula. But Ollie? He sees it as a sign he's "made it" in Hollywood.
Speaking of let's see who else came to the premiere

(L-R) Anita Sarkeesian, Xan Churchwell (enby "artist" whose last project was "Hex The Patriarchy", a short about two demisexual witches), Jeanne Quirus (she makes shorts but I've never heard of her), Jessie Gender, Blare O'Leary (some sort of LA micro-celeb who runs a hair salon), Maggie Mae Fish (YouTuber who was in that Jessie Gender short), Lindsay Ellis and Amy Tsang (she was in the Acolyte and had a similar role to Ollie).
Not exactly what you'd call star-studded.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Why is this giving me a weird vibe..?

Oh, yeah. lol