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Soycast Guy said:
I think Barron will be the one to continue MAGA. He’s highly intelligent for one, so I can see him succeeding his father somewhere down the line.
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Barron is showing an interest in politics and wanted to be a Florida delegate, but I think this only goes so far as it supports his dad. I think that the protegee is Vance. Trump's older sons don't have the same spark as Donny, but that's just my opinion.
The Nothingness said:
Jail the whistleblower and not her former employer or people buying guns illegally.
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Don't jump to conclusions. The ATF is probably going to use her to flip on the shop owner.
 
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Okay I gotta ask because the Trump train is going to end eventually and Loomer calling out 99% of the GOP as useless idiots has me wondering, what happens when Don Juan hangs up his MAGA hat and calls it a day? Where does the movement go from there? Vance? DeSantis? One of Trump’s kids? Some social media retard? I ask because nobody seems especially loved outside Donald and if that really is the last gasp for the alt right I’m kinda okay if he wins because it’s just gonna be a repeat of his first term with half his promises never happening and people pretending things are great now. Maybe with more assassination attempts. And with the way the economy is going he is welcome to that coming train wreck.
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MAGA probably dies the same death the tea party did. As far as I'm concerned if

a. trump loses or
b. trump wins but has a second term just as lackluster as his first

its over. I've long come to terms that its probably been over since 2020. Just a slow collapse into brazil, or worse, where day by day things get more expensive, people own less and less, everyone just gets further to hating each other, endless invasion from the southern border, probably a lot more racial tensions even between the various sainted brown and black folks, etc. Frankly as much fun as 2024's season has been I've resigned myself that the best bet is sometime in the next 4 years use the money I saved up to get somewhere remote and cold away from the chaos and decline democrat rule is going to bring on us. There's no saving a country so determined to destroy itself and so keen on providing a destitute and decrepit future for its future generations.

edit: just to be clear this is only in case a and b. If we get c. trump winning and making good picks and getting some stuff done on the invasion down south, we have a huge chance to pull through and MAGA won't die. I think this is more likely than the rest of my post may indicate, I'm just in a bit of a gloomy mood this monday morning
 
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Trump is at 48 percent. How could this be possible but for widespread racism?​

At this point, the racism is obvious. How else does it make sense that 48 percent of registered voters in last week’s Fox News poll say they have no problem putting Donald Trump back in the White House?

Who are these people who look the other way when their candidate tells a bold lie about Black immigrants eating a mostly white Ohio town’s cats and dogs?

How can it be that not a soul among the 48 percent cares that Trump’s vice-presidential pick, JD Vance, says it is okay to “create” racist lies about immigrants eating pets “so the American media actually pays attention”?

How can 48 percent of voters back a candidate who says immigrants coming from “infested” places are “poisoning the blood of our country?”

Is it just snowflakes who notice when one of Trump’s close allies says, “The White House will smell like curry” if Vice President Kamala Harris, the daughter of an Indian immigrant, wins the presidency?

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R- Ga.), no snowflake, condemned the comment as “appalling,” “racist” and “hateful.”

Do these voters also prefer to sail past Trump once calling a Black woman and former aide a “dog”? And he called Alvin Bragg, the Black Manhattan district attorney who successfully prosecuted him for business fraud, an “animal.”

Maybe Trump’s 48 percent don’t excuse his racism so much as get the message. They are inside a Republican Party that is 82 percent white. Most of those white Republicans are in small towns and rural areas.

“Beginning in the early 2010s — and accelerating during the presidency of Donald J. Trump…” The New York Times noted earlier this year, “white voters without a degree, increasingly moved toward the Republican Party. Nearly two-thirds of all white, non-college voters identify as Republicans or lean toward the Republican Party.”

This is the heart of Trump supporters who told YouGov pollsters they believe Trump is telling the truth about Haitian immigrants “abducting and eating pet dogs and cats.”

The YouGov polls also found that 80 percent of Trump supporters also buy his lie that Venezuela is “deliberately sending people from prisons and mental institutions” into the U.S. I wrote a 2018 book about Trump’s history of racism. Vice President Harris echoed the book’s research in talking last week of Trump’s racist past. She pointed back to his participation in the “birther” lie, the incendiary claim that the first Black president, President Obama, had not been born in the U.S.

Harris said Trump can’t be trusted to serve as president after “engaging in…hateful rhetoric that, as usual, is designed to divide us as a country…to have people pointing fingers at each other.”

In this year’s campaign, one of Trump’s regular dog-whistles at his rallies is his false claim that big cities, full of racial minorities and immigrants, are scary places full of crime and failure. Last week he flatly lied at a rally when he said a parent who leaves a child alone on the New York subway has “about a 75 percent chance that [they’ll] never see [their] child again. What the hell has happened here?”

Trump’s use of racism to stir up his white supporters was called out by writer Fran Lebowitz back in 2018. Trump, she wrote, has “allowed people to express their racism and bigotry in a way that they haven’t been able to in quite a while and they really love him for that…It’s a shocking thing to realize people love their hatred more than they care about their own actual lives.”

There are real consequences to all these racist lies. Last week, a Trump-supporting sheriff in Ohio encouraged people to report their neighbors who displayed Harris-Walz lawn signs. This incident called to mind parallels with police in Nazi Germany.

Widening the racial and political divide leads to alarm over possible violence. USA Today recently reported that more than one-third of Republicans who have a favorable view of Trump “say political violence is acceptable.”

According to a new Deseret News-HarrisX poll, 77 percent of U.S. voters say they are “very” or “somewhat” concerned about political violence before Election Day, including 80 percent of Republicans and 82 percent of Democrats.

“We are seeing an unprecedented and extremely disturbing level of threats of violence and violence against public officials,” Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco said last week in a speech.

The 48 percent backing Trump try to move away from his racism by talking about the need for a better economy. But Trump’s main economic plan is to impose tariffs that will drive up prices. He has no plan to improve health care or provide more affordable housing.

It was less than 30 years ago when Bob Dole, the 1996 Republican presidential nominee, stared down racism in the GOP. “If there’s anyone who has mistakenly attached themselves to our party in the belief that we are not open to citizens of every race and religion…,” Dole said at the 1996 convention, “the exits, which are clearly marked, are for you to walk out of as I stand this ground without compromise.”

Where are those Republicans now?
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Reagan was a 'racist'; H.W. Bush was a 'racist'; Dole was a 'racist'; W. Bush was a 'racist'; McCain was a 'racist'; Romney was a 'racist'; Trump was a 'racist.'
Either the republicans have a real knack for nominating 'racists', or the charge of being a 'racist' has no real meaning other than 'not a democrat.'
 
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Hey Johnny Bravo said:
Don't jump to conclusions. The ATF is probably going to use her to flip on the shop owner.
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I hope this is the case and that threat of time is just to persuade her to flip. Although she would've been in a better position to do this if she never quit and whistleblew while still "inside."
 
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TheSockiestSock said:
Okay I gotta ask because the Trump train is going to end eventually and Loomer calling out 99% of the GOP as useless idiots has me wondering, what happens when Don Juan hangs up his MAGA hat and calls it a day? Where does the movement go from there? Vance? DeSantis? One of Trump’s kids? Some social media retard? I ask because nobody seems especially loved outside Donald and if that really is the last gasp for the alt right I’m kinda okay if he wins because it’s just gonna be a repeat of his first term with half his promises never happening and people pretending things are great now. Maybe with more assassination attempts. And with the way the economy is going he is welcome to that coming train wreck.

The saddest thing for me right now is that no one on the left really wants to discuss anything that could be negative with the Democrats, not polls, not gaffes, not worrying articles. Everything is just as much a response of ‘fake news!!!’ as if I posted something negative about Trump on patriots.win. The echo chambers are fucking annoying and there is no room for civil discourse anywhere. Although I found this video interesting.

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It depends on how the election goes. If Trump wins, the GOP will definitely have to stay with the more populist side. Whoever is the successor is whoever Trump endorses. Vance will be the logical choice, but others might not want a pajeeta as first lady, so it might be contested. Also it depends on how much Trump follows through with what he's outlined. If he follows through with even with half of what he's promised (especially in regards to election integrity and immigration), the GOP will be in a good position.

If Trump loses, it will be a much bigger tug of war between the populists and the neo-Cons. It also depends on if Trump is going to stay in the public spotlight after losing a second time.
 
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The Nothingness said:
I don't trust any alphabet agency has the country's best interests at heart.
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They don't. They have the best interest of their careers at heart, and their careers go further by catching the bigger fish. In this case, the bigger fish is the store owner rather than the associate.
Autistic Integrity said:
I hope this is the case and that threat of time is just to persuade her to flip. Although she would've been in a better position to do this if she never quit and whistleblew while still "inside."
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Usually, they get a smaller fish to testify against the bigger one in exchange for immunity. Only in really severe cases does the smaller fish get lesser, easier jail time instead of immunity.
 
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It depends on how the election goes. If Trump wins, the GOP will definitely have to stay with the more populist side. Whoever is the successor is whoever Trump endorses. Vance will be the logical choice, but others might not want a pajeeta as first lady, so it might be contested. Also it depends on how much Trump follows through with what he's outlined. If he follows through with even with half of what he's promised (especially in regards to election integrity and immigration), the GOP will be in a good position.

If Trump loses, it will be a much bigger tug of war between the populists and the neo-Cons. It also depends on if Trump is going to stay in the public spotlight after losing a second time.
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If Trump loses, he is going to jail.
 
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If Trump loses, it will be a much bigger tug of war between the populists and the neo-Cons.
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If Trump loses we deserve what we get, Regardless of if the Loss is Legitimate.

If we don't vote for him in enough numbers after the past four years for him to win in a Legitimate case then we deserve the Divine Judgement we get.
If we let the Dems cheat again after we know they cheated in 2020 then we deserve it for allowing them to cheat again.
 
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Hey Johnny Bravo said:
Usually, they get a smaller fish to testify against the bigger one in exchange for immunity. Only in really severe cases does the smaller fish get lesser, easier jail time instead of immunity.
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I'm amazed she admitted to illegally selling guns though. Makes it really hard for her to defend herself.
 
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It’s not really complex. This is the Demographics is Destiny election.
If Trump wins and IF he actually follows through on his larger promises - most importantly deportation - maybe we can spend the next few decades struggling to fix the country.
If Kamala wins or if Trump bombs out on deportation, the demographic shift by 2028 from Boomer death alone means the voting booth is forever lost to ethnic voting blocs.
It’s three minutes to midnight, and I’m personally not convinced Trump will pull through on his promises if elected, but I’ll do the needful until it can no longer be done.
 
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