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[Nod Flenders]

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This is apparently the 2nd biggest podcast on Spotify behind Joe Rogan? But it's just whores talking about how they're strong and independent or something. At least it's also in video format so we can see the edits to cut out the weird laughing.

Call Her Daddy is a joke of a podcast.

 

[Francis York Morgan]

Source for this atm is Candace Owens

Should already raise red flags. Kind of like anything sourced to Laura Loomer.

 

[Necrosan]

This is apparently the 2nd biggest podcast on Spotify behind Joe Rogan? But it's just whores talking about how they're strong and independent or something. At least it's also in video format so we can see the edits to cut out the weird laughing.

She should, because every time she is allowed to open her mouth she says dumber and dumber shit and it's hillarious. Bonus points if they go rogue, which I doubt. I would put her on MATI if I could. I want her to go to ALL the podcasts.

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

Should already raise red flags. Kind of like anything sourced to Laura Loomer.

Yeah I'm hesitant to immediately bite into it but the possibility of her lying about being black would be the most clownworld way for her campaign to end

I'm really hoping for some Pocahontas tier "well her dad might not be Jamaican in the traditional sense, but she *is* 1.2% nigerian!"

 

[tehpope]

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This is apparently the 2nd biggest podcast on Spotify behind Joe Rogan? But it's just whores talking about how they're strong and independent or something. At least it's also in video format so we can see the edits to cut out the weird laughing.

Her appearance is too little, too late. It won't move the needle regardless. Because she will say the same shit she's been saying and look robotic.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

Its a big female gen-z podcast personality. I know a few of my friends love Alex Cooper and take her dating advice as gospel. Kamala will score zoomer points but again, no one that wasn't already supporting her. If shes smart she will plug the abortion issue or something dumb to appeal to emotions instead of word salad but I doubt it. At most it will generate enthusiasm.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/op-nation-tucker-carlson-conspiracism

will post this later in its own separate thread but Tablet dropped this and I found it interesting.

Why is Tucker Carlson trying to destroy our national narrative and invert what's considered good and evil? Why does his rhetoric mirror that of the DNC?

Like his father, Tucker Carlson is a propagandist. His talent is different than his father’s though. Where Dick Carlson channeled the official voice of Cold War America, Tucker Carlson’s ability to mix different types of conspiracy theorizing allows him to position himself on the side of his audience, offering them solace—while actually making them miserable. His aims can best be judged by the mix of conspiracy theories that he advances: There is the outlandish Weekly World News-style stuff about aliens and pyramids, which undermines his listeners attachment to reality by suggesting that the foundations of our common history are fake; there is the “debunking” of America’s history as a nation, in which unifying causes like World War II are transformed into devices to corrode his followers’ sense of the good in their ancestors; there is the invocation of shadowy, all-powerful forces like “the deep state,” whose power is so great that it is impossible to even name them, let alone fight them.

Above all, there is the reflexive inversion of good and evil, whether in the case of World War II, or Vladimir Putin, or Israel’s war against Hamas, which puts his listeners on the side of people (Nazis, Russian dictators, Muslim terrorists) they have formerly and rightfully regarded as America’s enemies, and nudges them toward accepting current Democratic Party establishment wisdom (Israel is bad; Iran is good; there is no such thing as terrorism; good and evil don’t exist) under the guise of being “free-thinkers” and “questioning authority.”

Why are his politics so similar to Obama's in terms of the rejection of American Exceptionalism?

Tellingly, the leading voice on the political left for the anti-exceptionalist argument over the past two decades has been Barack Obama, who in many ways is Carlson’s political doppelgänger. Obama began his political career by denouncing “neocons”—a political cult, whose influence is vastly overstated but which serves as a convenient metonym for “Jews”—and then began his presidency by stating “I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism”—meaning, he doesn’t.

The similarities between Obama’s politics and Tucker Carlson’s hardly stop at America’s shores. Both men are suspicious of U.S. ties to Israel, and seek to position the U.S. as sympathetic to Muslim terrorists who kill Americans. Both men feel entirely comfortable doing business with tyrants like Vladimir Putin and with Holocaust-denying theocracies like Iran. Both men share a common dislike for Winston Churchill, whose bust was removed from the White House under Obama, and whom Carlson has recently painted as the chief villain of World War II. Both men use polite euphemisms like “Likudnik” and “Zionist” to license overt antisemitism among their followers. The main difference between them is that Obama was elected president of the United States twice, and continues to live in Washington, D.C., and run the Democratic Party, which is the most powerful entity in the country, having formed something like a state-within-a-state that is attempting to control what we see, hear and read both from within and from outside our Constitutional form of government. Meanwhile, Tucker Carlson lives in Maine and seems unlikely to ever be elected president of anything—though not for lack of interest on his part.

Why is Tucker doing these controversial things right before a major election as a major right wing cultural figure?

If you truly believed that America’s fate was about to be decided by the contest between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, the holographic representative of the Democratic Party machine, what would be the last thing you would do less than three months before the election?

Somewhere high up on the list would be relitigating World War II and implying that American heroes who fought and died in that war sacrificed their lives for nothing, due to the malignant deceptions of their puppet masters and the evil Winston Churchill, who was controlled by Zionists. Then there would be directly associating the Republican Party, and its leader, Donald Trump, with Nazis, or else with Russia and Vladimir Putin, thereby validating the most common Democratic Party attack lines against Trump over the past decade. One might associate Donald Trump’s chief surrogates with people who promote Nazis. One might also argue that Joe Biden’s recklessly pro-Israel foreign policy endangers America, and that the masked demonstrators who celebrate foreign terrorist organizations while driving Jews off college campuses are important campaigners for human rights. One might platform antisemites, and inject their poison into the bloodstream of the Republican Party, making it clear to Jews—and to most normal Americans—that conspiratorial antisemitism is equally if not more at home on the right as it is on the left. One could launch one’s own cross-country political tent-show tour to compete with Trump and steal his thunder less than two months before election day.

Tucker Carlson has done all of the above. The question is why.

Tucker's close ties to a formerly Democrat Iranian Muslim who suddenly became a Republican and funded him out of the blue.

Enter Omeed Malik. Now Tucker Carlson’s main financial backer, Malik was a New York-based investment banker and money manager who was described by the Daily Caller—the conservative website in which he abruptly decided to invest a large chunk of money in 2020—as a “lifelong Democrat” and a donor to left-wing political candidates and causes. While it is possible to imagine that at the height of anti-Trump feeling in 2020 Malik decided to abandon his lifelong political allegiance to the Democratic Party and become a Republican instead, that would make him a rather unusual—even unique—figure, especially among wealthy Muslim Democrats living in New York City. But again, anything is possible.

Malik’s day job is running Farvahar Partners, a boutique investment bank he founded. While boutique Wall Street investment banks have no obligation to be transparent about their investors—and are often valued for doing the opposite—a possible clue as to the source of at least some of the money Malik manages, might be found in the name he chose for his enterprise. The farvahar is a symbol of the soul and of the idea of life after death that is common among peoples of Persian ancestry. Post-1979, it became a favorite national symbol among the Iranian diaspora.

Or perhaps the coincidence of that symbolism has nothing to do with this story at all. Perhaps Malik and Carlson simply met one night at a bar by chance and found they agreed about more than they disagreed on, including the idea that Zionists are bad, America’s involvement in World War II was bad, Adolf Hitler is misunderstood, and Winston Churchill is a villain, and the lifelong Democrat Malik then handed over a large chunk of his own personal savings on the spot so that Tucker Carlson could found a new right-wing media empire centered around himself. I.e., both men are morons.

I doubt that, though. A more likely possibility, at least to my eyes, is that Omeed Malik is backing Tucker Carlson at the behest of whatever power it is that does stuff like gather the signatures of 51 high-ranking U.S. intelligence officials on a letter declaring that Hunter Biden’s laptop is a Russian op on the eve of an election.

Is Tucker trying to make Trump lose?

Do you follow me so far? If so, here’s another clue worth clocking. Sept. 4 was the kickoff date for Carlson’s first ever 16-city live tour, which was set to feature all of Donald Trump’s surrogates for onstage appearances, including JD Vance, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and Kennedy’s former running mate, Nicole Shanahan. According to a source, Tucker had taped a conversation with Vance in August. But the interview he chose to open the curtains on his tour—which he dropped on Sept. 2, two days before the tour began—was with Darryl Cooper. This choice in turn forced Trump and his surrogates into a bind: Either authenticate Cooper’s antisemitic message by keeping silent while sitting chummily onstage with its messenger, or to draw even more attention by refusing to get on stage with him.

They chose to keep silent, and to go through with their appearances. A few days after the Cooper interview ran, Trump, who had Tucker sitting in the box with him at the opening of the Republican National Convention so that tens of millions of viewers would see it, released a video proclaiming himself to be the most pro-Israel president in history. RFK Jr. tweeted a photograph of his father with the Lubavitcher Rebbe. Vance tweeted about meeting an Auschwitz survivor. I suppose these men did what they imagined they could to signal rejection of Carlson’s poison. But their responses came off like hostage notes.

So why is Carlson using his platform and his following to hold Trump and the Republican Party hostage to antisemitism? There are three plausible explanations, beginning with the idea that Carlson himself is an antisemite. Even if that’s true, it’s too boring to be the whole story. The second is that Carlson wants to be president of the United States, and believes that Trump will lose—and he sees antisemitism as a useful wedge with which to break off a large chunk of the despondent MAGA base for himself while denying that fraction to potential rivals. The third explanation is that he’s a Fed. In all three cases, his aim would be for Donald Trump to lose in November.

Tucker is fishy af recently with his anti Western turn, this is making a lot of sense and recontextualizing a lot of choices he's been making.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

As they continue to espouse their own biases they gained from their echo chambers.

"HiTlEr SaId SoMeThInG nIcE tO sOmEoNe At OnE pOiNt ToO." Brilliant. I feel totally challenged.

That is because they have no effective solutions.

What has improved in the western world since 9-11?

The Economy- It went through a massive recession from which the world never really recovered and is in my opinion we are in the middle of what should be called a depression, The only reason people arent completely impoverished is because of the practical application of technology.

World Stability - Has anything the west has done in the past 20 years actually made things safer? Open Boarders, The War on Terror, The War on Drugs have any of those been effective? Are Russia, China and Iran afraid of being the Backwards ass barbarians they are or are they all preparing to try and grab shit because the west is weak and incompetent?

Are the IRS, CIA and FBI better at their jobs? Lets go full schitzo post for a moment.

The feds killed Kennedy and basically got away with it
Now they cant kill Trump with two attempts

How many people in our government have been there for Decades? How many of them could string together a Coherent thought BEFORE they were old as dirt?

Our Government used to be Evil and Smart..now it is Evil and Fucking Stupid. It's not just in Government though.

Look at our Culture.

Entertainment - Video Games, TV shows and Movies are all collapsing because they all fucking suck. How often do we get anything really great out of Western Entertainment? How often do we get a TV show or a Movie that is good that ISNT A FUCKING DRAMA?

Cultural Cohesion - We are completely shattered as a culture, I don't trust Blacks, I don't trust Jews, I don't Trust Christians, I don't trust Spanish folks, I don't trust most other white folks.

The American "Dream" and The Middle Class - These are in shambles, Amassing Generational Wealth is impossible and with all the Regulations and Taxes building something of your own in terms of a business is almost impossible.

The Left can't have sensible discussions about their policies because in 2016 the GOP Voterbase made it very Clear that they were tired of the Uniparty and in 2024 the Voter base made it clear that we weren't going back to that because the Uniparty tried to harness Desantis as a stooge and it didn't fucking work, so now the Uniparty is the Democrat Party.

The Democrats are the Party of
George Bush
Barak Obama
Joe Biden
Karl Rove
Mitt Romney
John McCain
Hillary Clinton
Joe Biden
Bernie Sanders
Al Gore

Name one fucking thing that these people have done to improve things in The West that wasn't by accident, The Current Left is fundementally immoral not because Faggotry or Niggers.

The left is Fundementally Immoral because if a solution does not work then it is not moral.

(Sorry I am replying to a post from like 50 pages ago)

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

Obama was more cloak and dagger.

Obama is a Chicago politician. It’s not cloak and dagger. It’s as obvious and as cloak and dagger as a nigger punching someone in the back of the head. When Obama killed someone everyone formed ranks and didn’t talk about it or were effectively blacklisted for doing so.

 

[ShitLurker]

They’re not betting on Kamala, they’re betting on fortification.

Pretty much. Slight PL but I bet on Trump in the 2020 election since it just seemed like free money (don't remember the margins, but they were BIG). Boy did I get egg in my face and made me wonder what the hell the rest of the gambling world knew. At first I thought it was just TDS, but after the steal, they clearly were on to something.

A lot of people are tired of Trump and think that voting for Kamala will make everything better.

Same reason they voted for Joe, how did that pan out?

BIG TECH PREPARING FOR MASSIVE REPUBLICAN VICTORY.

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Don't worry cuckberg, we don't forget. We don't forgive.

Definitely. Fuck him, he's already shown he's a whore, so make him kiss the fucking ring and work for you or destroy him, leaving him to his own devices is only asking to get fucked later.

Crowder sucks dicks for cock. O'Keefe is a professional homosexual who does it to expose vile injustices against the people. They are not the same.

O'Keefe's anus is almost as much of an American hero as McCain's brain tumor.

 

[Breadbassket]

Has anyone heard about Kamala's dad potentially being an Indian living in Jamaica rather than a 'black' Jamaican?

Allegedly this image of herself with her grandmother that she posted is a complete lie, with her grandmother having died at 39 before Kamala was even born

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It could be her step-grandmother but it's definitely not her biological grandmother. One wrench in that idea though is that her bio grandma's name was Beryl, so unless her grandpa married a second Beryl it seems really unlikely

Source for this atm is Candace Owens, allegedly she received an anonymous email that prompted her to start digging and that's what she's found so far

I've also seen people claiming she's irish/indian

Info is kinda all over atm, if I find some proper sources I'll share but I'm working on other things atm so I assume someone will beat me to it (or find info they can use to call me a retard for listening to Candace Ovens lol)

I've seen that photo dated to 1990 which hasn't been confirmed as far as I am aware but it would make sense considering the clothing then 26 year Harris is wearing.

If Find A Grave is correct then both of her paternal grandparents were dead before she was even an adult so the question then becomes who was she actually with in the photo?

 

[The Nothingness]

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This is apparently the 2nd biggest podcast on Spotify behind Joe Rogan? But it's just whores talking about how they're strong and independent or something. At least it's also in video format so we can see the edits to cut out the weird laughing.

Doing podcast interviews weeks after Trump already started doing it? How long until she does a Twitch stream?

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

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This is apparently the 2nd biggest podcast on Spotify behind Joe Rogan? But it's just whores talking about how they're strong and independent or something. At least it's also in video format so we can see the edits to cut out the weird laughing.

Another Oprah moment incoming.

 

[Necrosan]

Tucker is fishy af recently with his anti Western turn, this is making a lot of sense and recontextualizing a lot of choices he's been making.

I disagree. Mainly because the article, like any other pro-Israel article ever written, brings up antisemitism without even going close to why people are more antisemitic than ever and just portrays it as something that's inherently wrong.

So why is Carlson using his platform and his following to hold Trump and the Republican Party hostage to antisemitism? There are three plausible explanations, beginning with the idea that Carlson himself is an antisemite.

Do the Jews ever wonder why the goyim hate their fucking guts? Now more than ever? Every time someone is labeled as antisemitic it's always someone else OTHER than the Jews' fault. It cannot be them, it's never them.

This article was written because the right has found the way to call out the Jews who have been destroying the US without actually having to name them and being labeled as antisemitic. I'm pretty sure anyone who uses the words "neocons" or "the powers that be" know exactly who they are referring to, for the most part.

 

[Prester John]

No, what I said is that - from my perspective - Obama gave Putin a chance to show that he wasn't a giant asshole. Instead, Putin was a giant asshole. It's an English proverb meaning that stupid people will incriminate themselves. This isn't upside-down 8-dimensional chess. Obama gave Putin the option of being chill or being a fucking cunt and Putin chose the latter, for all the world to see.

Obama outright told Medvedev that he could offer Putin more flexibility after Obama's reelection. Putin just accepted Obama's invitation.

 

[ShitLurker]

Tucker is fishy af recently with his anti Western turn, this is making a lot of sense and recontextualizing a lot of choices he's been making.

Ah, orders from Mosad have come in then. Gotcha buddy

Gee jolly, that Tucker sure does seem shifty fellow republicans! I think we should infight like faggots for the next 2 months!

 

[mandatorylurk]

Tucker's turn into "anti-american" is obvious to any person who has tried to do right and been fucked every turn, then blamed for the problems they didn't even cause. This 2004 worry to criticize anything American is also fake and gay, we don't have the clear obvious lie and refusal to finish the fight in Iraq or the disasterous growth of the deep state now obvious to anyone willing to actually look at it.

Is David Samuels going to start working lil' Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire soon, is this the new attempt to smother MAGA in replacement of Meatball Conservatism?

 

[Michael Wade]

One interesting theory I've seen brought up on twitter is that the whole line of succession thing isnt nuclear. It's related to the Diddy tapes. He apparently had so many he's got Dirt on everyone. So either they are worried shit is going to come out in court or they are going to weaponize the tapes they want to use.

Kamala already survived one assassination attempt, when the DNC pipe bomb was discovered on Jan 6 2021 while she was there. (Never mind that senators were supposed to be doing senate business on Jan 6. They had a job to do on that date.)

I'm not joking; look it up. Why isn't she touting the hell out of the first assassination attempt she survived?

Because it wasn't real. If I'm not mistaken the bombs didn't work because they weren't even armed.

Christopher Lee is one of the coolest guys in the history of the world.

Oh he was awesome. Apparently he trained the assassins that killed nazi Reinhard Heydrich. It's sad though because he blamed himself for the retaliation that killed hundreds of civilians. He told reb brown this when they were filming howling 2 interestingly enough.

I’ll perhaps go against the grain and suggest that the intelligence Trump is receiving is actually genuine… to an extent. As in, I think there’s a good chance that Iran is the one responsible for setting the plots into motion and handling some of the logistics. What about the fact that these plots all glowed like the sun you may ask?

That’s where I think it’s ‘to an extent’. I think the reports and actions of foreign actors could be legitimate, Iran does have legitimate reasons to want Trump dead after all… but I think the glowie involvement was mostly in the fact that they didn’t stop any of the shit that they obviously should’ve seen coming. There’s also the possibility that some of Iran’s or other countries operatives assisting these plans are in actuality plants from a three letter institution, of course, but I actually don’t think the idea itself is too ridiculous, if somewhat disingenuous about the reality of the situation.

I would not be surprised if Iran actually reached out to the glowies to try and do shit. Like star trek 6.

 

[CEO of Gay]

I don't want to subject my dear kiwi bros to her shrieking voice.

Maybe we want to laugh at her shrieking voice. Share the funny, man.

Fair enough.

I agree. Trump will tell you he's gonna kill you, how he's gonna do it, and why he's doing it. Obama was more cloak and dagger.

It really points to the styles of their cities, doesn't it? A New Yorker is blunt and direct. If a New Yorker thinks you're an asshole, he will call you an asshole to your face. Chicago is a corrupt shithole, and the only way to get anything done there is backstabbing in back-room dealings.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

I disagree. Mainly because the article, like any other pro-Israel article ever written, brings up antisemitism without even going close to why people are more antisemitic than ever and just portrays it as something that's inherently wrong.

Do the Jews ever wonder why the goyim hate their fucking guts? Now more than ever? Every time someone is labeled as antisemitic it's always someone else OTHER than the Jews' fault. It cannot be them, it's never them.

This article was written because the right has found the way to call out the Jews who have been destroying the US without actually having to name them and being labeled as antisemitic. I'm pretty sure anyone who uses the words "neocons" or "the powers that be" know exactly who they are referring to, for the most part.

Completely missing the parts of the article where it points out how Tuckers new views are similar to Obama's/DNC views, how he's funded by a former Democrat Iranian, and how he's making himself a liability for Trump with these new views to the point where trump has to implicitly disavow.

Ah, orders from Mosad have come in then. Gotcha buddy

Gee jolly, that Tucker sure does seem shifty fellow republicans! I think we should infight like faggots for the next 2 months!

The article points out how Tucker is promoting infighting and turning Republicans against each other.

Tucker's turn into "anti-american" is obvious to any person who has tried to do right and been fucked every turn, then blamed for the problems they didn't even cause. This 2004 worry to criticize anything American is also fake and gay, we don't have the clear obvious lie and refusal to finish the fight in Iraq or the disasterous growth of the deep state now obvious to anyone willing to actually look at it.

Is David Samuels going to start working lil' Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire soon, is this the new attempt to smother MAGA in replacement of Meatball Conservatism?

David Samuels is pro Trump and has been writing against the Democrats for years. His Obama files article is a classic.

There's a different between normal bitter anti americanism and being straight up funded by a former Democrat Iranian to launder DNC talking points to the right wing.