Furry Fandom and Drama General

[Drone]

Yep, whip-its are the big thing now because weed is no longer edgy.

It's more the viral marketing combined with lack of regulation. Legal and widely available drugs tend to be quite popular among those scared off by the regulations surrounding traditional hard drugs. Galaxy Gas struck gold on the viral advertising front (Thank TikTok), and has been able to worm its way into retail shelves under the guise of being flavor enhancers for whipped cream (similar to how poppers are usually labelled as shoe polish or nail polish remover).

The fad is likely to die off once regulation starts. Given the current media controversy surrounding Galaxy Gas in particular, it's only inevitable. Once they're regulated, it'll be far more likely for whippets users to be in it for the edginess more than anything else.

 

[Feral Postie]

Im gonna say this, but if you think that Whippets are safer than like weed, Molly or any of the “safe” party drugs. You’d have to be the lowest of the low when it comes to I.Q.

Whipits are safer in the sense that they're less likely to have been messed with by someone else before they get to you, so much so that no one would never bother to test one for anything. In terms of actual affect on the body? Of course they're not safer than weed or mdma.

 

[Quesursundeepimpact48]

"Really just makes me wonder: What is the appeal of furries anymore, if not a trademark for a certain kind of personality? "

Kind of is a situation where it's up to the individual what the appeal is. I became a furry in 2022, & while I have been betrayed & fucked over by a handful of furries who went out of their way to get me kicked from groups over BS, I have also found some really kind people who are furries. Not making excuses for Kero & co who do evil shit to animals & children. I just like some of the art & writing the backstories of my characters. People take themselves too seriously tho. Sorry if this is rambling, am drunk right now.

 

[Drip Torch]

Furry conventions are much more fun on hallucinogens.

 

[Nimbat Out Of Hell]

Complete upside down from what the fandom was like 7-8 years ago. Having more than one OC was frowned upon cause an OC was "literally you". 3D chats with furry avatars in other games or even second life was also frowned upon cause "uhh it's not all sex" despite being all about sex. [...] Having a twitter itself was a tryhard move for people who wanted to run their personalities like brands rather than having peer2peer relationships.

So, I completely disagree with this. Maybe this was the case with the circles you interacted with, but none of this has changed in my experience. 8 years ago with 2016, not 2012. Pretty much everyone I knew in the fandom had a twitter account, because the artists within the circles I was in all had twitter accounts, so everyone else had twitter accounts to interact with them and boost up their likes and comments.

Having more than one OC wasn't as common, but there were still plenty of them. Second Life still had a huge contingent of furries, but it was less popular than it was a few years ago and VRChat hadn't made big waves yet. A lot of the people I knew weren't into SL because of the onboarding cost to get a character set up and because none of their friends were on it either, not because it was "frowned upon".

Maybe this is different if you mainly interacted with people who were in their 30s eight years ago, but most of the people I interacted with were young adults, and basically nothing you said there reflects my experience.

 

[Piggle-o]

Maybe this is different if you mainly interacted with people who were in their 30s eight years ago, but most of the people I interacted with were young adults, and basically nothing you said there reflects my experience.

Yeah, the biggest cultural shift was around 2012 with the rise of online gaming and the move to Discord. Furry weed gamers weren't the entire fandom before that. I'd argue the biggest shift was mass paywalling content and the move to Twitter around that time.

If we're going to reminisce, furries being banned from the entire internet and the brief period of civility was probably the best time to be around outside of the 90s.

 

[Crispy Pancake]

Furry conventions are much more fun on hallucinogens.

I understand why most people get drunk or high at furry conventions because you'd have to not be sober to be able to tolerate it.

 

[AI Wendigo]

Just spent 5 mins scrolling furry twitter and it's nuts. Complete upside down from what the fandom was like 7-8 years ago. Having more than one OC was frowned upon cause an OC was "literally you".

"Character hoarding" was already a big drama in 2010, that's when the "adoptables market" began to take off and explode in earnest.

Yeah, the biggest cultural shift was around 2012 with the rise of online gaming and the move to Discord. Furry weed gamers weren't the entire fandom before that. I'd argue the biggest shift was mass paywalling content and the move to Twitter around that time.

Discord's only been around since 2015, and online gaming definitely predates it by a margin. People were using TeamSpeak before Discord.

 

[Temperance]

The new Fur Affinity admins are already sowing discord in the furry community by making the controversial decision to...

Ban the babyfurs and diaperfurs from their website. Understandably, this is causing serious strife and concern amongst the furries. The pedophiles among them now want all FA staff banned from all furry conventions and intend to accomplish this with their intricate network of furry pedophiles who openly boast about infiltrating many furry convention staff teams.

I don't normally follow furry drama, but I just recently came across this... and I'm honestly shocked. Furries are degenerates (obviously), but I didn't realize that so many of them - including a large portion of furry community leaders - are apparently open pedophiles.

https://archive.ph/QRs3j
https://preservetube.com/watch?v=1jxPWfHgsBY

I also want to point out something since there's a group of folks that believes babyfurs shouldn't be allowed at conventions. A LARGE PORTION of the convention leadership in our community are babyfurs or babyfur adjacent. Furries may run the internet but babyfurs run the fandom.

As some folks have noted Babyfurs tend to be the "canary in the coal mine" when it comes to groups that get targeted first within the furry community.

The most fucked up part of all this is that for many of us, the cause of our kink is often related to trauma inflicted by others. And these assholes want to keep the trauma going. It’s funny to them to watch others suffer.

Your own discomfort with a kink doesn't make it bad or immoral. It takes time to learn this but it's crucial since, from the bigger view, we're all the same community. Not to mention there's WAY more of them than you think. Babyfurs have my support, always will.

Like I tell a lot of folks; furries run the internet, babyfurs run the fandom. So many folks in leadership roles.

I know many babs that are con staff. If those saying "Babyfurs should be banned from cons" had their way, the cons actually wouldn't have enough staff to run.

I feel like most of the furry events would completely fall apart.

As an ex-conrunner, and the current community manager for the local furry group, I can WHOLEHEARTEDLY confirm this.

Hell... babyfurs run the Internet. I cannot tell you how many babyfurs and kidfurs I know in IT

half the IT and AV staff of a typical convention will be constituted by [babyfurs].

I personally know people who are babyfurs that run cons/ serve on staff. We are everywhere

Been on enough com staffs to know that yip, we have a logo of babyfurs on staff, and they even have their own con now.

Spoiler: More screenshots

Unsurprisingly, they use lolicon-esque apologetics to justify their perversion. "It's not hurting anyone. I use it to cope with muh trauma! Just because it's gross doesn't mean it should be banned!"

Spoiler: Apologetics

Some try to handwave it away as ""just"" being a kink about wearing diapers or roleplaying as a child for kink purposes. Meanwhile, there are discussions like this in the comments, where they're clearly talking about CP drawn in a furry art style:

Spoiler: Sickos

That last comment linked this: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2256

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I fell down this rabbithole thanks to Ash Coyote (aka Ash Kreis), who is a semi-notable furry Youtuber & Documentarian. (I know about him from the Tenacious Unicorn Ranch thread, since he also made a documentary about the Tranch.)
Ash is deeply involved in the furry fandom, often attends furry events, and has interviewed various furry community leaders / convention staff members / etc for his videos. So when he claims that many of these people are babyfurs, I believe him! He's basically an expert on this topic.

 

[Cpt. Stud Beefpile]

Im gonna say this, but if you think that Whippets are safer than like weed, Molly or any of the “safe” party drugs. You’d have to be the lowest of the low when it comes to I.Q.

You are so off in Wrongland I'd need Google Earth to measure the distance. Whippits are so popular partly BECAUSE they're far less likely to kill your ass than any party drug that has been brewed or grown.

Whatever industrial leftovers are in a pack of whippits will hurt you eventually. The fentanyl you can't see in your $5 crack rock can kill you within minutes...or leave your mother wishing it had as she wipes the butt of her 30 year old who now has the mental capacity of a nigger.

 

[Agent of Misinformation]

In commemoration of the thread reaching page 1488, here are my German feelings about how Babyfurs run the fandom:

 

[Autistic Gunspergings]

In commemoration of the thread reaching page 1488, here are my German feelings about how Babyfurs run the fandom:
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>its all babyfurs, top to bottom
This shit is horrifying but I cant say im surprised. also here's another pic for page 1488.

 

[Otis Boi]

Ash is deeply involved in the furry fandom, often attends furry events, and has interviewed various furry community leaders / convention staff members / etc for his videos. So when he claims that many of these people are babyfurs, I believe him! He's basically an expert on this topic.

Con staff being a bunch of baby furs is true. It's why diapers/ABDL stuff is NEVER banned and is not subject to kink related bans/age-gating. It's a huge issue because it's similar phenomenon as the reddit powermoding. It's just people constantly propping each other up. Friends who quit con-staffing have told me nightmares of dealing with those people because if you mention how uncomfortable it makes the general public/furs they have a meltdown.

 

[Harm]

Con staff being a bunch of baby furs is true. It's why diapers/ABDL stuff is NEVER banned and is not subject to kink related bans/age-gating. It's a huge issue because it's similar phenomenon as the reddit powermoding. It's just people constantly propping each other up. Friends who quit con-staffing have told me nightmares of dealing with those people because if you mention how uncomfortable it makes the general public/furs they have a meltdown.

Yep, it's something that's gone from an open secret in the furry fandom to an insidiously accepted reality. Its consequences are going to be harmful. There was a minor controversy only a short couple weeks ago that highlight this problem perfectly.

There were a bunch of furries in fursuits in a lobby getting checked in for some furry convention and one guy in their fursuit was blatantly wearing a fetish adult baby print diaper on the outside of their fursuit in front of children who were nearby. A concerned furry took a photo and put it up on Twitter to express their criticism, and people defended the diaperfur hard. They weren't reprimanded for flaunting their adult baby fetish gear in front of children at their convention and it's emblematic of a creeping normalization they're pushing.

Someone who did the same exact thing at the infamous Rainfurrest convention years ago was lambasted when he similarly walked around the convention in his fetish diaper. Now it's apparently kosher in the furry community and you're the problem if you raise concerns over it, oy vey!

 

[get_ur_gamon]

Didn't these people spend the last decade demanding payment processors ban anything contraversial, lest they be boycotted? Hmmm, well let's see how that went for them. The payment processes giveth, and now they taketh awayeth.

I also love the pathetic attempts at PR.

"I know these grown men who shit themselves and post furry toddlers onto their 18+ fetish blogs may seem like pedos, but actually that myth has been debookned. Only a far right nut job would think that."

 

[Time of Space]

Now I may not be all that smart but "you shouldn't demonize furry CP because the main organizers of this culture are into it" may not be the slam dunk he thinks it is

 

[AnOminous]

Now I may not be all that smart but "you shouldn't demonize furry CP because the main organizers of this culture are into it" may not be the slam dunk he thinks it is

"We really are all pedophile degenerates who need to be gassed" isn't really a great argument.

 

[Time of Space]

"We really are all pedophile degenerates who need to be gassed" isn't really a great argument.

I don't know, it's kinda nice to find common ground with them for once

 

[Edict of Expulsion]

“If we can’t have open pedophiles run our fetish conventions then there won’t be conventions.”

Sounds like a problem that solves itself.

How, with all of the visa and payment processors coming down so hard on porn, are furries (read: pedophiles and pedophile enablers) able to raise money for their fetish art and even have regular fucking conventions?

Imagine that pedophile NAMBLA group trying to have regular conventions but they all put on (((disney))) suits, it would be obvious they’re trying to lure children into a false sense of security.

Sick fucks need a single vitamin bullet each minimum.

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

"SENIORS WEAR DIAPERS TOO!! IT'S NOT A CHILD FETISH!!!!"
okay how many adult diaper BABY LOVE people do you see carrying around a cane and roleplaying as a senior citizen?

nah you always see them roleplaying behavior of babies/children. You guys get off to BABY LOVE.