Dragon Quest

[Commander X]

The other fellow, Kazuhiko Torishima


The interviewer tries to go "I don't care so long as the game is fun" but those two fellows were really riled about this.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

‘Who cares about this?’

Likely the same people that got you to change stuff back in the day because your products were going out to children.

DQ art got less revealing as the series went on for that exact reason.

It’s only been a recent trend where the products that were originaly marketed to children have those now adults screaming that you should not do that.

Likely because they no longer have to worry about being told no by their mom when they see the box art.

And honestly it clearly does not bug the art people enough otherwise they would have pushed for two versions so JP got the uncensored one,

are probably going to go into "OK chuds, it is happening but here's why it's good" mode.

Honestly they should start from this. Because it could absolutely be well argued, using history and the westerners who are ggetting mad parent’s as the the crux, but that would require them to know what they are talking about snd actually care about the players and not just their dumb ideology.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

'Who cares about this?’

Likely the same people that got you to change stuff back in the day because your products were going out to children

Not even close. It was puritanical Christians wanting to protect kids from sexual content, now it is seething feminist cat ladies combating the male gaze and perverted trannies trying to confuse children about gender.

 

[Not Xavier Ravenblood]

I played Builders 2 a few weeks ago, and after beating the first island and realizing that I'd have to rebuild everything again after like 12 hours of playing I just gave up. It seems like a fun concept with a bad progression system.

Dragon Quest Monsters needs a remake. The first one for the original Gameboy was great. I had played Joker or one of the ones for 3DS and it was like 6 hours of gameplay to beat it and it sucked and was missing the concept of difficulty and exploration.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Not even close. It was puritanical Christians wanting to protect kids from sexual content, now it is seething feminist cat ladies combating the male gaze and perverted trannies trying to confuse children about gender.

Those are the same people. They’ve always been the same people. And it’s always been for the same reason. Not wanting childrem to play certain things.

Dragon Quest Monsters needs a remake. The first one for the original Gameboy was great. I had played Joker or one of the ones for 3DS and it was like 6 hours of gameplay to beat it and it sucked and was missing the concept of difficulty and exploration.

They released a new one not too long ago.

I really don’t want them remaking games in current climate. They’d be better off rereleasing.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Dragon Quest Monsters needs a remake.

I'd settle for it on NSO. Online play would be cool.

Those are the same people.

Ok

 

[Hermiöne Granger]

the dragon quest developer should get some backbone and firmly set the foot down. not saying no to this body type bullshit in his game, is just giving these woke shitheads a foot in the door. the woke shitheads will now push for more woke shit.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Ok

They are. Or if they aren’t directly they are the people that the original busybodies instilled values in.

the dragon quest developer should get some backbone and firmly set the foot down

That would require him to actually honestly care and not be easily swayed by giant bag of money.

 

[Lili]

Makes you wonder how this will affect the sales of the game. Usually these type of interviews happens a couple of months after the game release. More people are aware of these type of things everyday and having the original authors ranting about the forced changes isn't exactly good PR. Square Enix isn't exactly on the best financial situation right now and this recent news doesn't help them at all.

 

[ProfDongs]

I played Builders 2 a few weeks ago, and after beating the first island and realizing that I'd have to rebuild everything again after like 12 hours of playing I just gave up. It seems like a fun concept with a bad progression system.

Dragon Quest Monsters needs a remake. The first one for the original Gameboy was great. I had played Joker or one of the ones for 3DS and it was like 6 hours of gameplay to beat it and it sucked and was missing the concept of difficulty and exploration.

1 and 2 both had 3DS remakes, JP only but there are english patches out at this point. They changed some of the mechanics like monsters having sizes and that effecting how many you could have on your team. The rosters are pretty substantial too, 2 has something like over 800 monsters in it. The soundtracks are closer to the PS1 remakes which is hit and miss, especially the breeding song since it sounds like a Rugrats song.

 

[Coptakhenaten]

I played Builders 2 a few weeks ago, and after beating the first island and realizing that I'd have to rebuild everything again after like 12 hours of playing I just gave up. It seems like a fun concept with a bad progression system.

Dragon Quest Monsters needs a remake. The first one for the original Gameboy was great. I had played Joker or one of the ones for 3DS and it was like 6 hours of gameplay to beat it and it sucked and was missing the concept of difficulty and exploration.

I heard you could pretty easily break TW3D in half, very easy game because you can just catch foreign trainers' monsters and breed them to make high tier ones too early.

DQM2 3D is harder, more balanced, and huge with a lot of exploration, probably one of the best gaming remakes out there.

As for Builders 2. I did play that and the game is actually pretty dynamic. It changes what you have to do for each island and that first hub island you'll always come back to and there's reasons to go to the other islands too. I think Builders 1 had better exploration, but Builders 2 just played better (And had a great story)

the dragon quest developer should get some backbone and firmly set the foot down. not saying no to this body type bullshit in his game, is just giving these woke shitheads a foot in the door. the woke shitheads will now push for more woke shit.

They are. Or if they aren’t directly they are the people that the original busybodies instilled values in.

That would require him to actually honestly care and not be easily swayed by giant bag of money.

Japanese hate conflict and will willingly cuck themselves to avoid disharmony, it's the worst tragedy of Japanese culture in that respect. The one person possibly holding the line was Sugiyama because he was a hardline nationalist and conservative, and he's long gone.

 

[Fcret]

The way JP companies talk about game ratings, you'd think being rated T was a death sentence. When I was a kid, any game that wasn't at least rated T was considered pussy shit. The only game rating that really mattered was M because stores might not sell it to you if you looked too young.

In any case - I'm not sure why SE is so determined to have a game that innately only appeals to 30+ year-old boomers maintain an "all-ages" rating from CERO/ESRB.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

The way JP companies talk about game ratings, you'd think being rated T was a death sentence. When I was a kid, any game that wasn't at least rated T was considered pussy shit.

It is when they are trying to market for as many people as possible.

In any case - I'm not sure why SE is so determined to have a game that innately only appeals to 30+ year-old boomers maintain an "all-ages" rating from CERO/ESRB.

Because DQ3 was a game for all ages originslly. DQ was not supposed to just be 30+ neckbwards as an audiance that only care because boobs.

 

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Yuji Hori flat-out stating that DQ3 censorship and the addition of Types A/B as opposed to male/female was pushed onto them by American companies

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The people who say, "uh, chuds, it's not happening" who do happen to see this are probably going to go into "OK chuds, it is happening but here's why it's good" mode.

Close. Their current cope is "Yuji Horii is a tourist that doesn't know Dragon Quest" and "I didn't have Yuji Horii being a nazi on my bingo card" and "they're old japanese men and everyone knows Japanese people are racist fascist fucks."

Needless to say, them going "it's just a bunch of incel chuds from the US, Japan doesn't care" is no longer going to work.

I played Builders 2 a few weeks ago, and after beating the first island and realizing that I'd have to rebuild everything again after like 12 hours of playing I just gave up. It seems like a fun concept with a bad progression system.

Dragon Quest Monsters needs a remake. The first one for the original Gameboy was great. I had played Joker or one of the ones for 3DS and it was like 6 hours of gameplay to beat it and it sucked and was missing the concept of difficulty and exploration.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/translation-dragon-quest-monsters-terrys-wonderland-3d.431204/

https://gbatemp.net/threads/translation-dragon-quest-monsters-2-cobi-and-taras-marvelous-mysterious-key-wip-v0-4.573054/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2175540/DRAGON_QUEST_MONSTERS_The_Dark_Prince/

DQM3 ("The Dark Prince") is... mid. Not bad. Not great. It's a supposed retelling of DQ4 from the POV of the villain. Maybe an alt-timeline. It's not a great plot.

You can't even synth the bosses, and they removed online stuff from the PC port. DQMJoker 2 and 3 both got "Professional" expansion re-releases, which everyone was expecting DQM:TDP to get, but no sighting yet.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Hope someone has an archive of that TGS stream, it's been set to private, the woman and the company doing the interview have put out statements decrying it being clipped, the guy who subtitled the interview has deleted his x account and put up a statement from a lawyer, and multiple japanese news sites covering it have deleted their articles and x posts about it.

 

[Suikafag]

Hope someone has an archive of that TGS stream, it's been set to private, the woman and the company doing the interview have put out statements decrying it being clipped, the guy who subtitled the interview has deleted his x account and put up a statement from a lawyer, and multiple japanese news sites covering it have deleted their articles and x posts about it.

Somebody has archived the entire thing on Archive.Org. Here is the video, likewise there is also an archive of a partial japanese transcript.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Somebody has archived the entire thing on Archive.Org. Here is the video, likewise there is also an archive of a partial japanese transcript.

That transcript is interesting cause it doesn't cite the "mistranslated" tweet that they're claiming is the issue, but got purged in fire regardless.

 

[RX-78]

Here is a complete transcript of the section in question by an unaffiliated agent:
NAZ CHRIS: あとすごい話題になってた。そのコスチュームとか、当時とそのままなのかどうなのかみたいなのがありましたよね。 また...

堀井: まあね、あのいろいろ規制もあってね。露出しすぎちゃいけないとかね

NAZ: あそこまあちょっとあんまり深掘りする気はないんですけど。いいのにだってフィクションだけど、その中にあ、主人公ってあなたが入って冒険するっていうことでいいじゃないと思うんですけど、違うんですかね？

堀井: なんなんですかね。よくわかんないですけどね。これについてはね

NAZ: ゲームだし、フィクションという自分の中のこうバーチャル体験でのあのノンフィクションだから、楽しくければいいのにっていうふうに思っちゃいますけどね。

堀井: あんまり露出するとね、年齢が上がっちゃうっていうね。

鳥嶋: まあまあね。

堀井: 全年齢じゃなくなってしまうっていうのが 鳥嶋: ルールがやっぱなんか各国違ったりするんでね。広くろうと思うと、一番厳しいところに合わせざるを得ないとか。でも,

NAZ: 当時そんなこと思わなかったですね。

鳥嶋: コンプラっていう名のね。やっぱりね、ある種のね。なんだろうな、絶対神と言うべき善の名を借りた悪みたいのがあるよね。あの全員が不快感を覚えないなんてことはないわけだって、株不快はこういうことを覚えるどうこうでもいいわけよ。だって綺麗、汚いとかさ、善悪って人それぞれ感じ方があるわけじゃんで物事はやっぱり。根っこにあるのは、やっぱり絶対やっちゃいけないことだけ。いくつかそれをさえやらなきゃといいじゃないって、そういうのがないわけだから、やっぱりあの欧米英米の方から欧米の方から来てる？その宗教的な概念からくるその清教徒の考え方って、アメリカにあるじゃない？彼らのコンプラの考え方って本当ない。狭いうんでだから、向こうでコミックスだけに、全部その年齢で。 あの, 区切ってやらなきゃいけない少年ジャンプの漫画だったらサーティーンアップ13歳以上じゃないと出せない。それは全部見てくれなきゃいけないで、それを訴訟が起きる。そのために保険も入らなきゃいけない。もうこんなね、バカな国とねやるの。本当面倒くさいでそっから日本も悪影響を受けてやってるから。

堀井: 主人公もね、男女選べるんだけど、男を女選ぶって書いていけないのねタイプ一タイプ二なのねねえそう男女誰が一体文句言うんだろうと思うんだよね。

鳥嶋: そうそうですね。

堀井: うん, わからない。

 

[VidMasterEon]

Hope someone has an archive of that TGS stream, it's been set to private, the woman and the company doing the interview have put out statements decrying it being clipped, the guy who subtitled the interview has deleted his x account and put up a statement from a lawyer, and multiple japanese news sites covering it have deleted their articles and x posts about it.

Im posting it here to for preservation

 

[Metamorpho]

inb4 the streisand effect kicks in and more eyes see the situation