Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Edgeymcedgename]

So Zack is mostly relying on ai to make a horror fonzi book.

Regarding the Ai question.

This is a reminder that Dough Head is using it in the laziest and worst way.
Remember that.

 

[Olórin of Hype]

People like the 1920-50s because it's a classic aesthetic that appeals to people because it's timeless. it's old enough that it has a sense of magic to it but recent enough that it's recognizable and relatable. Not to mention it was the last real time before the world got ugly, androgynous and dumb.

Also, Did you just reference the weimar republic as evidence that the 30s were degenerate? You do know the weimar was so outside the norm of society at the time that germany turned to the nazis to destroy it.

Nobody is arguing that the past was perfect, but you really just pulled a destiny and typed in "why the 30s sucked" into Google and are pretending all of this is fact and was universal.

Yes, celebrities have always been degenerate, yes, people in cities (during one of the worst financial disaster in human history) are going to do desprate things to survive and a small subset of the population is going to take advantage of that. That does not mean everyone was a smelly degenerate who got lynched by corrupt judges (all if it did it also applies today. Go you to any major city today and tell me the people aren't smelly degenerates and their judges aren't corrupt)

You might as well have posted this unironically
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As I said, dig deeper than the Disney smegma smeared all over that era. The 50's became the bright spot because Eisenhower began enforcing a set culture in the USA. Anymore of this, and I'm just political sperging. I just recommend giving that era a closer look, rather than just taking the Dick Tracey interpretation as law.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

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[Yes, that is the origin of the "Jump the Shark" meme]

I think the memers know what to do here

 

[Fleetwood]

eople like the 1920-50s because it's a classic aesthetic because it's timeless. it's old enough that it has a sense of magic to it but recent enough that it's recognizable and relatable. Not to mention it was the last real time before the world got ugly, androgynous and dumb.

Lazy writers like it because they don't have to think of a creative way to not have the whole movie or comic be shots of people looking at their cellphone and have the mystery be solved by a google search. The mundane of yesteryear is more exciting than the mundane we put up with daily.

As I said, dig deeper than the Disney smegma smeared all over that era. The 50's became the bright spot because Eisenhower began enforcing a set culture in the USA. Anymore of this, and I'm just political sperging. I just recommend giving that era a closer look, rather than just taking the Dick Tracey interpretation as law.

-Head pat- yes you are a genius, run along now.

We know there were beatniks and whatever else, if I want it I'll read Kerouac not YaBoiZac

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

Zack schizo posting to Chuck Dixon

Dough head, you owe this man your career that you threw away. DON'T FUCK WITH CHUCK

imagine being the guy who created bane and somehow finding yourself in the position where you have to listen to this autistic retard talk about the fonz.

suffa chuck. lol

I tell you he's just too nice for his own good, any other comicpro would have supported Jawbreakers and that would've been the end of it.

I take it this is going to be a Happy Days parody? Or is Zack planning on more piracy?

Solid plan for him to take out a sizable loan so he can rip off something so timely and relevant.

What's next? A dark and gritty reboot of Hogan's Heroes or Gomer Pyle?

He's trying and failing to be creative, the Ai is just a cope to stop him from looking like chis-chan

He goes into more detail in subsequent posts and its impossibly gayer that I could have imagined:

Zach your not funny and your full of shit

 

[Stupor Mario]

I accept that the 80's wasn't as awesome as today. What I isolate about the 80's was the desire to push forward. The limitless potential of the future. That's the important, and meaningful contrast creators of all kinds need to look for today.

The '80s were amazing. Music was amazing, movies were amazing. Video games were just starting their trajectory towards getting better and better. Nerd culture was in it's golden age. There was no social media which meant people actually got together, had real experiences and did things in person together. Companies still offered pensions. A pretty good life with affordable groceries and an opportunity to raise a family was very possible. The communists were the enemy instead of something Americans aspired to be. You could still prosecute criminals. The fringe weirdos were still on the fringe instead of infiltrating every aspect of society. Life wasn't perfect, but it could be, often was fun and hopeful.

The internet is just a consolation prize for a society in collapse where technocratic authoritarianism is the future.

I'd take the '80s over today any day.

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

The '80s were amazing. Music was amazing, movies were amazing. Video games were just starting their trajectory towards getting better and better. Nerd culture was in it's golden age. There was no social media which meant people actually got together, had real experiences and did things in person together. Companies still offered pensions. A pretty good life with affordable groceries and an opportunity to raise a family was very possible. The communists were the enemy instead of something Americans aspired to be. You could still prosecute criminals. The fringe weirdos were still on the fringe instead of infiltrating every aspect of society. Life wasn't perfect, but it could be, often was fun and hopeful.

The internet is just a consolation prize for a society in collapse where technocratic authoritarianism is the future.

I'd take the '80s over today any day.

The music mostly sucked although a lot of memorable hits are from the 80s because there was more of a sense of free wheeling experimentation. But most of what was made was incredibly awful. Nerd culture was a fringe thing. I guess that did kind of make it a golden age because nerd culture flourished without the input of normies. Things were more affordable and the future seemed more upbeat that's true.

The communists were supported by most of the left wing establishment, or at the very least seen as moral equals of the United States. Ted Kennedy sent a secret message to Soviet leader Andropov asking him to interfere in the 1984 election against Reagan.

Crime was much worse than it is today and soft on crime policies were the norm. This actually led to the end of Democratic electoral dominance in congress when Republicans eventually started pushing tough on crime policies in the late 80s-90s.

The fringe weirdos were not the fringe, they controlled academia, Hollywood and the news. There was no social media back then to allow ordinary people to respond. They pushed normalization of gays and trannies, anti religious sentiment, homelessness, and even at times pro communist agitprop. I mentioned this somewhere else on Kiwifarms, but there was a pro tranny episode of Night Court in the early 80s. Hardly the only example. So this stuff has been going on a long time.

You have a very rose colored view of things.

The thing that made the 80s in America so great was that it was more white and thus monocultural, not really anything else.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

Guys, this is a comicsgate thread, what are you doing?

 

[Stupor Mario]

You have a very rose colored view of things.

Agree to disagree about music. There were so many great bands in so many different genres with more always on the way, it was almost hard to keep up with it all.

Crime was only out of control in your biggest cities. (And things are even worse in those same cities today.)

Yes, there was a left wing establishment, but it was largely confined to academia and to certain other elite sectors. Academia was still part of the fringe that had little to no impact on 95% of the country. Leftist politics and the fringe were there if you wanted to find them, but they weren't omnipresent like today. (The dawn of Political Correctness wouldn't debut until the '90s.) You could also express your disagreement and dissent with the left without censorship.

Again, life wasn't perfect, but I still think it was a lot more fun than things are today. It's a subjective opinion. Feel free to disagree. I'm sorry you didn't have as good of a time back in the day.

 

[FluffyJackal]

This is what I want to know. Richard, did you not put money aside for your "vEt OwNeD bIdNeSs"?? If you consistently "smash your goal" with your 300 paypigs and make the necessary amount on your funding, why bother asking for a loan? You should be gravy my dude! So what's the problem?

(Zack goes to local his bank branch to do some errand)
Teller or "Asst. Exec.": Mr. Meyer, do you know that with the amount you have saved with us you qualify for a Super Saver Instant Credit of 30000 dollars?
(Zack starts thinking he's Charlie Munger/Peter Thiel/Charles Koch rolled into one)

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

Incidentally, why would Meyer, a purportedly stingy guy who's raised over 1 (or 2?) million dollars from his campaigns need to borrow 30K ?

'Cause he doesn't have two nickels to rub together right now.

He's raised a bunch of money but illustrators + colorists + other writers + printing + fulfillment + taxes means that he's only taken a portion of the money he's raised through his endless campaigns. That's the advantage that Ethan has, he's made bank because he's his own artist and writer, so it cuts down on the bills.

The thing that's inexplicable is taking out a loan to create comics when that was the whole point of crowdfunding - raising funds for the project and if it didn't meet the goal then drop it. I have a feeling he has some super secret and desperately dumb plan for that money.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

'Cause he doesn't have two nickels to rub together right now.

He's raised a bunch of money but illustrators + colorists + other writers + printing + fulfillment + taxes means that he's only taken a portion of the money he's raised through his endless campaigns. That's the advantage that Ethan has, he's made bank because he's his own artist and writer, so it cuts down on the bills.

The thing that's inexplicable is taking out a loan to create comics when that was the whole point of crowdfunding - raising funds for the project and if it didn't meet the goal then drop it. I have a feeling he has some super secret and desperately dumb plan for that money.

Like milking haters of the "right-wing grifters"/BDCs

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

I've ever really understood the fixation on pre-70's America after the year 2000.
I was remarking the other day, "Why the fuck is Batman doing ANYTHING in the 1930's? Who the HELL has any connection to the 1930's anymore? Fedorabros?"

If nothing else, look at all the stuff the ubiquity of cell phones takes away. See Bigfoot? Take a video. The love of your life doesn't meet you for your assignation? Send a text that the flight was canceled.

Meyer claims here:


...that "whales" are more forgiving and even more indifferent than average supporters towards behavior of creators said whales follow and support. How the heck does Mr. Sociologist know

I have no idea what the hell I just watched, other than that Zach has apparenlty discovered how to make charts on Google Sheets or something. Oh, and I do wonder how much time Zach spends keeping all those spreadsheets up to date, since I don't think it is the sort of thing that could be easily automated, is it?

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

If nothing else, look at all the stuff the ubiquity of cell phones takes away. See Bigfoot? Take a video. The love of your life doesn't meet you for your assignation? Send a text that the flight was canceled.


I have no idea what the hell I just watched, other than that Zach has apparenlty discovered how to make charts on Google Sheets or something. Oh, and I do wonder how much time Zach spends keeping all those spreadsheets up to date, since I don't think it is the sort of thing that could be easily automated, is it?

He has always made spread sheets, back in the day it was to keep up with his comics and what was/wasn't ready.

Now it's just to make some retarded point that at the end of the day is a massive cope.

 

[urr13 account]

2. The "high school students" were in their 20s, Zack, welcome to American television in the 70s.

It's such an empty observation, its like saying:

I was TERRIFIED of Rizzo in Grease as a kid. You have this girl who is CLEARLY in her thirties who hangs out with high school kids and even sleeps with one of them! ​

And yeah, Stockard Channing was 35 when she played Rizzo in Grease (Henry Winkley was 28 in season 1 of Happy Days - both actors playing characters meant to be 16/17) but it's not scary.

Also I'd probably rather movies and TV shows cast adults as teens, 30s is pushing it but given how sleazy the industry is rumored to be I think it's best if the cast are all legal adults even if the fictional characters they portray are much younger.

And as someone else said, his fonzie idea is very Gail Simone type humor, Zack would have fit right in gossiping with the milkshake girls, his real issue is he wasn't invited to girls night out to gossip with them about Carrie and Mr. Big.

 

[Olórin of Hype]

Flat Tony sounds like a middle manager trying to explain to his underlings why they work at the company at all.
"It wasn't until Mr.Iger decided to start cratering every IP possible---that we noticed Disney could just do that."

Oh well, at least he's among friends that respect him, right?

 

[Gee Willows Wilson!]

Fat Tony about to get excommunicado?

"No no no we all really really hate Isom and it's a plight on comics, it was only Fat Tony that was the stupid one who did what he was told and was disingenuous. We are all very seriously committed to bringing down Rippaverse because of bad comics!"

 

[Mr Processor]

I don't know who Act Man or Asmongold are. Well, I should explain this more. I am aware there are some Youtube people with these names. I've seen a few random, out of context clips of Asmongold, enough to make me think he has a fanbase.

This is a far cry from comic books though, and not a subject (Videogames) that I think Ya Boi Zack has anything knowledgeable to say anything about. Not that I think he has anything useful to say about TV or Movies, but Zack doesn't really play videogames or he plays them far less than most men.

 

[FedPostalService]

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I don't know who Act Man or Asmongold are. Well, I should explain this more. I am aware there are some Youtube people with these names. I've seen a few random, out of context clips of Asmongold, enough to make me think he has a fanbase.

This is a far cry from comic books though, and not a subject (Videogames) that I think Ya Boi Zack has anything knowledgeable to say anything about. Not that I think he has anything useful to say about TV or Movies, but Zack doesn't really play videogames or he plays them far less than most men.

In his own retarded way Zack is right.

 

[ronnal]

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I don't know who Act Man or Asmongold are. Well, I should explain this more. I am aware there are some Youtube people with these names. I've seen a few random, out of context clips of Asmongold, enough to make me think he has a fanbase.

This is a far cry from comic books though, and not a subject (Videogames) that I think Ya Boi Zack has anything knowledgeable to say anything about. Not that I think he has anything useful to say about TV or Movies, but Zack doesn't really play videogames or he plays them far less than most men.

Has he actually looked at Concord? Why doesn't HE make videos talking about why HE doesn't think Concord is woke? That's the least he could do if he's going to so adamantly take a side to dunk on other content creators for having a bad take.

Also, I suspect he's trying to appeal to authority by invoking the names of such large channels on the topic.