What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

Rumpled Foreskin said:
Also, there is rumor there is a giant Lithium deposite in the mountains of North Carolina. So maybe like the land grabbing in Hawaii, there might be some shady shit in North Carolina going down.
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The rumors are a mashup of lithium and quartz, actually.

The quartz part is one of those "Not a conspiracy, just not well-known" things.
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The lithium thing also has a basis in fact, to be sure, especially since a permit was just granted back in May and given there was some opposition:
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JesusChristDenton said:
Games like Helldivers 2 and their popularity are all part of some kind of psyop to normalize brutality and dehumanization towards any designated enemies of the west in the name of "democracy" and "freedom". Basically trying to create a whole new generation of NAFO style psychos.
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Games like Helldivers 2 are popular because they enable cathartic destruction with nothing getting in the way of gameplay. The rest is just window dressing.
Meriasek said:
Oh, all the pictures of Earth and the Moon are easily faked, but stars require powerful CGI? OK.
I don't make excuses, I explained to pretty significant lengths why it wasn't easily done.
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Yeah as shown by NASAs inability to keep the size of continents consistent within photographs and images that is ignored. Again, stars can be independently verified. If the stars are out of position in a moon photo it proves it was fake. How many times do I have to repeat this before you get it? Since you just swallow NASA cock wholesale.
Meriasek said:
As far as I know, the SSTV signal was converted in real time to NTSC and broadcast. The signal had to be converted since it was a very different format. The signal conversion process used a monitor and a camera, not projection on a wall, and that did add degradation to the image quality. Seems like recordings of the raw SSTV signal were lost, but apparently it wasn't a high priority to save that since the conversion worked. Which sucks, I'd have loved to see some properly restored raw SSTV footage.
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That's how they converted it. Also it's funny how much data involving the moon landings just wasn't worth saving. The most important event in human history just not worth archiving. It's fine. Just tape over it with the superbowl.
Meriasek said:
It's not that easy to bring yet another instrument and take pictures that are ultimately just not that interesting. In general I guess they just didn't really think of taking pictures of stars because it was not high priority or interesting to do, and explicitly gathering "proofs" that they actually were there wasn't really on their mind.
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Yes it is, you'll make any excuse for it.
Meriasek said:
All the other photographs (which also had to get things perfect) were easily faked, but the pictures that would just show point sources, now those would be impossible to fake!
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They didn't have to be perfect, just convincing enough. You know since no one has ever been there. With stars you do,since people can independently verify it. I guess you just can't comprehend what those words mean, because you are a retard.
Meriasek said:
Here's the thing, they went there for the specific experiments they ran, and not to collect specific pieces of evidence people would maybe ask for later.
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As anyone who lives in an area with a lot of light pollution who goes to an area with almost none, the stars are breathtaking. It's literally the first thing people would want to see. What does space look like without any atmosphere getting in the way. To deny this is to deny basic humanity.
Meriasek said:
It wasn't easily done, and the question why they didn't put in the extra effort is easily answered.
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It wasn't easily done because you need it not be. You'll excuse doing much more difficult things just to deny the simple ones.
byron said:
The first time a person does a thing, for example going into space or landing on the moon, is a great achievement. Repeating that feat with (insert identity group) is not an achievement, even though identitarians will applaud it.
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its funny because you deny basic biology to push an identitarian viewpoint. Sending a woman to do something is a sign of confidence and ease. Since women dying is always judged infinitely harsher than a man dying.
byron said:
That is my argument. You have no rebuttal.
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You have strawmen and bad ones at that.
byron said:
I recently watched Inglorious Bastards and I had the same thought. They justify brutality against an honorable enemy by dehumanizing them with a label. It's really scary to me how many people I've seen on sites like reddit that use that same tactic.
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It's a satire of war movies, especially the ones that Audie Murphy made. It's not like it's a hidden subtext, it's literally the text of the movie.
 
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NoReturn said:
The rumors are a mashup of lithium and quartz, actually.

The quartz part is one of those "Not a conspiracy, just not well-known" things.
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Yep. Computers are going to get a lot more expensive if the mine situation isn't figured out. If you have been planning on buying one, now might be a good time to do so.
 
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byron said:
It's true that men tend to be taller than women. Nonetheless, size is not a determining factor. To put that another way, there are many 5'3" men and many 6'1" women.
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There are only so many becasue there’s several billion of us. Proportionally, no. Maybe in some countries that have terrible nutrition
byron said:
I can agree that it's important to test cars with 5'3" dummies, and 6'1" dummies. But you need to understand that certifying that a car is safe with a 5'3" dummy is not certifying it for women. It's certifying it for 5'3" people ...which includes short men.
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Crash test dummies and a lot of other safety testing don’t simply scale down the dummy for women, children and babies. There are different proportions, different ligament strengths, different weights of various parts. A small child is supposed to be in a car seat not because they’re short but because of the weight of the head vs the strength of the neck/muscles. The head gets thrown forward with disproportionate speed which is why many countries prefer rear facing seats for a long time. A woman will be impacted by a seat belt differently to a man as well. There are many such differences
Women have different physiology to men, and if we are going to go into space longer term we need to understand how those physiologies react to long term microgravity and radiation and space. Bone turnover is very likely different, muscle masses different. Cardiovascular systems will react differently. Maybe the sexes fertility is different too - I can imagine constantly produced sperm being less likely to receive a critical dose of radiation than eggs. Putting a woman in space is a data point that was important, in a way that being a passenger in a Bugatti probably wasn’t. Not every female first is a notable thing, but seeing how women do in space certainly was.
 
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Bonesjones said:
You have strawmen
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lolwut?

Designing and building a spacecraft that can carry a human into orbit is a significant accomplishment.

Subsequent flights with people of different identity groups is not a significant accomplishment. It uses the existing spacecraft.

Neil Armstrong was the first person on the moon. That was a significant accomplishment. The other landings were important, certainly, but the identities of the astronauts was not a significant accomplishment. For example, Harrison Schmitt is the only trained scientist to walk on the moon. That's great, but it's not a significant accomplishment.

You have no argument against this.
 
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NoReturn said:
The rumors are a mashup of lithium and quartz, actually.

The quartz part is one of those "Not a conspiracy, just not well-known" things.
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The lithium thing also has a basis in fact, to be sure, especially since a permit was just granted back in May and given there was some opposition:
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While I appreciate the excellent information, this is sad. Now my schizophrenic rambling and theory seem more valid :(
 
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Otterly said:
There are only so many becasue there’s several billion of us. Proportionally, no. Maybe in some countries that have terrible nutrition

Crash test dummies and a lot of other safety testing don’t simply scale down the dummy for women, children and babies. There are different proportions, different ligament strengths, different weights of various parts. A small child is supposed to be in a car seat not because they’re short but because of the weight of the head vs the strength of the neck/muscles. The head gets thrown forward with disproportionate speed which is why many countries prefer rear facing seats for a long time. A woman will be impacted by a seat belt differently to a man as well. There are many such differences
Women have different physiology to men, and if we are going to go into space longer term we need to understand how those physiologies react to long term microgravity and radiation and space. Bone turnover is very likely different, muscle masses different. Cardiovascular systems will react differently. Maybe the sexes fertility is different too - I can imagine constantly produced sperm being less likely to receive a critical dose of radiation than eggs. Putting a woman in space is a data point that was important, in a way that being a passenger in a Bugatti probably wasn’t. Not every female first is a notable thing, but seeing how women do in space certainly was.
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I've read into fertility and reproduction in Space somewhat. And no I don't just mean watching Barbarella. (Though I have). There's a surprising amount of research on it up to and including the problems of giving birth in low or micro-gravity. One of my favourite proposals is a large toroidal tunnel with a banked track running all the way around the inside. Sort of like those fairground rides where you get tilted on a sloping floor. Of course this is only suitable for on a planet. And should probably be placed under ground to help shield against radiation, assuming Mars or the Moon. Experiments with animal pregnancies in Space have thrown up some warning signs. One rat died in childbirth because one of the litter grew abnormally large in the womb and wouldn't fit out. Mice litters born with deficient levels of oxytoxin. Stress or the effect of zero-G? We don't fully know. Rodents testicles have shrunk into their abdomen without gravity, causing internal temperature to rise affecting the sperm. Even conception can be tricky when one good thrust can send your partner careening to the bulkhead. There have been designs for velcro sex clothing to keep you both attached, an elastic sex belt (same purpose) and a variant on a sleeping bag. Which for anybody whose not had sex in a sleeping bag is, let me tell you, not ideal.

It's a fascinating field of research.
 
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Meriasek said:
Where did you get that?
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No I’ve seen this one too - it was one of those fun schizo infographics and it seemed to show loads of photos of earth but with continent size different - so like Africa taking up most of the sphere in one then dinky in another. Image processing oddity? Dunno but I’ve definitely seen that one
Overly Serious said:
And no I don't just mean watching Barbarella. (Though I have).
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Shocked I am. Shocked. I thought your avatar was from that but it’s from UFO isn’t it?
 
Otterly said:
Shocked I am. Shocked. I thought your avatar was from that but it’s from UFO isn’t it?
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LOL, yes. It's from UFO. And I had to explain to Null that no, she isn't topless - there really is a bra under there. This was on at tea-time for all the family in Britain back in the day, after all!

Barbarella does make me laugh though. The sex scene with Dildano is one of the funniest things I've ever seen on film.

I'm confident this is how it will actually be when we finally colonise other worlds.
 
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Otterly said:
No I’ve seen this one too - it was one of those fun schizo infographics and it seemed to show loads of photos of earth but with continent size different - so like Africa taking up most of the sphere in one then dinky in another. Image processing oddity? Dunno but I’ve definitely seen that one
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Sounds like a matter of perspective and field of view. Spherical surfaces are an absolute bitch, and if people get even that wrong, how do they expect to do the triangulation of star positions right?
 
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byron said:
you need to understand that certifying that a car is safe with a 5'3" dummy is not certifying it for women. It's certifying it for 5'3" people ...which includes short men.
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Not a conspiracy: crash test dummies are sexed, and the sensors are different to reflect that female bodies are at higher risk of concussions/whiplash (i.e. women’s necks are unilaterally weaker than comparably sized mens’).

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Conspiracy: Airport security exists to lull passengers into frustrated complacency. This makes them more docile and accepting of arbitrary commands on an airplane. A person spends thirty minutes being poked and prodded so that he will do whatever is necessary to be left alone in silence on the flight.
 
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Meriasek said:
Not to mention that to record the first step they couldn't go out and align some larger antenna first.
And they probably wanted to have the most reliable tech for the very first steps, since it was a huge publicity moment and they really needed it to work. So drop the video quality in favour of having the most reliable option for recording and transmitting the very first steps on the Moon.
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That's actually my schizo theory

They landed on the moon but faked the timing so they could get out and calibrate and test the equipment
 
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Otterly said:
No I’ve seen this one too - it was one of those fun schizo infographics and it seemed to show loads of photos of earth but with continent size different - so like Africa taking up most of the sphere in one then dinky in another. Image processing oddity? Dunno but I’ve definitely seen that one
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Are you sure it's not just a map projection thing?

Fun little scene from the West Wing talked about it


Edit: oh, never mind, you said photos, not maps
 
Brahma said:
Edit: oh, never mind, you said photos, not maps
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Yeah, imagine a globe of the earth then imagine say a quarter of South America takes up the entire face you can see. It was that sort of thing. If I see it again I’ll screenshot and post it. Maybe some kind of image processing stuff if they’re using composite images, I don’t know. Or perspective from distance taken?
 
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Bonesjones said:
Yeah as shown by NASAs inability to keep the size of continents consistent within photographs and images that is ignored. Again, stars can be independently verified. If the stars are out of position in a moon photo it proves it was fake. How many times do I have to repeat this before you get it? Since you just swallow NASA cock wholesale.
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Otterly said:
Yeah, imagine a globe of the earth then imagine say a quarter of South America takes up the entire face you can see. It was that sort of thing. If I see it again I’ll screenshot and post it. Maybe some kind of image processing stuff if they’re using composite images, I don’t know. Or perspective from distance taken?
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I've seen it, too. The explanation I got was that they're all composite photos.
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Source of above images: https://explorer1.jpl.nasa.gov/galleries/earth-from-space/

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Source of these: https://www.universetoday.com/41702/picture-of-earth-from-space/
 
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