US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Necrosan]

The best part is: you were warned, multiple times. You had all the evidence from former commie socities at hand. You had people dissecting it and reconstructing what happened. Still, people in important positions decided "nah, this wasn't real communism, let's try it again, here". This also means it will become so much worse before the people are fed up with this nonsense.

It's not really a communism problem. It is a retarded ideology don't get me wrong but the problem are the evil fucks who take the most Orwellian aspects of every ideology and then sign it into their laws. I don't see them taking the aspects of communism (or other ideologies) that work against the government and are there to prevent the abuse of power.

The USSR didn't collapse only because of communism, it collapsed mainly because evil retards were at the helm. No shit we will never find anything better than capitalism if the people on top are shitty people.

My point is, it's more of a retarded/evil/demonic people problem than an ideology problem.

 

[RybenZ999]

One thing I've noticed about white "progressives" on reddit is that they always make racist assumptions when a minority doesn't vote the way they do, instead of actually trying to reach out to them. Cubans vote for the GOP? Oh those spics are either too retarded/are too hateful to vote for the good guys. Clarence Thomas is a conservative? Cue slurs and racist comments about his interracial marriage, calling him a stupid self loather.

 

[The Saltening]

One thing I've noticed about white "progressives" on reddit is that they always make racist assumptions when a minority doesn't vote the way they do, instead of actually trying to reach out to them. Cubans vote for the GOP? Oh those spics are either too retarded/are too hateful to vote for the good guys. Clarence Thomas is a conservative? Cue slurs and racist comments about his interracial marriage, calling him a stupid self loather.

surprisingly based

 

[Nuns with guns]

That was a whopper of a lie he told.

He claimed he was in China during the Tiananmen Square riots in Beijing for the "I've witnessed oppreshinns!" cred, when he was actually 1500 miles away in Hong Kong two months after the riots.

That's like saying you were in NY on 9/11, when you were really in Buffalo on 11/11.

Yeah, but I don't care about that and that wasn't what I caught. I instead noticed that Walz became increasingly nervous and felt a large need to explain why he traveled to China and is such a knucklehead who needed cultural enrichment. It's like innocuously asking a Russian spy if they once traveled to Russia for the holidays and the spy starts sweating and ends up justifying the Kremlin.

 

[The Ugly One]

I'll take him over that gaslighting, chicken-necked bastard Krugman.

You can say "Jew" here.

 

[The Last Stand]

Trump rally is on

I would think if they're voting for Trump, they're already registered.

 

[Necrosan]

One thing I've noticed about white "progressives" on reddit is that they always make racist assumptions when a minority doesn't vote the way they do, instead of actually trying to reach out to them. Cubans vote for the GOP? Oh those spics are either too retarded/are too hateful to vote for the good guys. Clarence Thomas is a conservative? Cue slurs and racist comments about his interracial marriage, calling him a stupid self loather.

You will never find anyone more inherently racist than a progressive/leftist. The whole thing is based on giving people who you percieve as weaker or dumber equal opportunities. It's almost as if you have to be racist to be effective at it.

I mean, if they are just like us then why do they need special treatment?

 

[nigel p poppycock]

This thread has gone breathlessly fast.

Feeling sorry for Walz: that's happening because unlike Kamala and Trump, there isn't that huge chasm of elitism going on with him. Trump is a billionaire, Kamala views everyone beneath her. His toxic, heinous, and treacherous policies and governing aside, Walz gives off that "all American" vibe that plucks at our empathy. Seeing him get decimated by Vance who is a master debater hits us in the psychological feels--he could be us. We just have to remember what he's done and continues to do to ruin MN and he'd love to do that to the US too while getting richer and richer and richer.

I wish they would stop. We should just have an open discourse, no safe spaces like the men hate thread or trump thread, just let trumpers and never trumpers duke it out, so what if they derail conversations? Let us be free to speak our minds.

There aren't enough under appreciated jannys in the world to let that happen again.

If I'm just a whiny blackpiller go ahead and sell me your idea of realistically fixing the U.S.

Or alternatively and preferably go fuck yourself with the wide end of a rake, faggot. Don't get pissy at people for pointing out the lack of answers you're helping to demonstrate with this stupid response.

I had to skim 100 pages so I might have missed your realistic plan to save the country. Do you have one, or are you just pointing out that everyone offering ideas are continually missing the mark?

Here's mine: the key lies with the locals and States. For now the Fed is lost, and until the corruption at that level is chipped away by people who are in public service for actual public service, there's no fixing it in the short term. This can be done at the State level, as we've seen with DeSantis and Youngkin who have turned their States around (you don't have to agree with everything they do to see they've achieved some good results) and we already have Red State governors who, while imperfect, haven't driven their governments over a cliff. To get to that point, the local and State Dem and Repub parties, have to get rid of their problematic coalitions. We don't need unity as much as we need bipartisanism, and those aren't the same thing. Even multipartisanism would be welcome, as long as the end goal is to serve the American people and not individual financial enrichment.

The implosion of the US was a long game, fixing it is a long game. I have more ideas but not a lot of time to write them down, plus I don't want to post a wall of text.

It still blows my mind that we're in a timeline where Trump, RFK, and Gabbard are on the same team.

This is the Fed example of what I stated above--people setting aside ideology to work together for the greater good. This used to happen more often before the 21st century.

Again, this is our government functioning as intended, blah blah blah, blah blah.

Yah, no. It wasn't intended to function like this at all, hence checks and balances that have saved the US from an early grave.

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So they'll have money for this but not for Helene? I see.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

My point is, it's more of a retarded/evil/demonic people problem than an ideology problem.

It's both. Ideologies tend to be super retarded, but it takes evil sociopaths to actually put them into operation. No one sane would try to implement communism or fascism. It either takes evil leaders or extraordinary circumstances - or, as history proves: both.

 

[GunCar Gary]

I would think if they're voting for Trump, they're already registered.

going back to the state where he was shot before gives undecided voters a chance to go "well, that's kind of cool, maybe i'll listen to what he has to say this time". there's probably also people at/outside the rally providing people on information on how to register to vote

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

I’ve started telling people to make an exit plan from the US. We are a powder keg ready to go off at any moment and I don’t think tensions and political violence has been this high since the 1850’s. If Trump gets killed then it’s officially game over.

Find a place that you want to live in or a state that you to dig ditches in.

I disagree with people saying that the USA should be abandoned. It is a huge place and large swaths are as undeveloped as they were 600 years ago.

If things get bad, stay. If you think this is tge land of opportunity now, just wait until you see the opportunities that reveal themselves if and when the current government crumbles.

Above all else, the North American landmass cannot be allowed to be divided further. Dividing North America and the United States' political map into small bits will only benefit people outside of North America. People in North America will never be allowed to unify again.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I disagree with people saying that the USA should be abandoned. It is a huge place and large swaths are as undeveloped as they were 600 years ago.

If things get bad, stay. If you think this is tge land of opportunity now, just wait until you see the opportunities that reveal themselves if and when the current government crumbles.

Above all else, the North American landmass cannot be allowed to be divided further. Dividing North America and the United States' political map into small bits will only benefit people outside of North America. People in North America will never be allowed to unify again.

In an actual SHTF scenario, you want to stay in the US because we have a better chance of fixing things than any other country. Who would you rather be with? A bunch of Europeans who think guns are icky and Americans are backwards? Or a bunch of Americans with guns who think American values are worthwhile?

 

[Local Farmer]

I disagree with people saying that the USA should be abandoned. It is a huge place and large swaths are as undeveloped as they were 600 years ago.

If things get bad, stay. If you think this is tge land of opportunity now, just wait until you see the opportunities that reveal themselves if and when the current government crumbles.

Above all else, the North American landmass cannot be allowed to be divided further. Dividing North America and the United States' political map into small bits will only benefit people outside of North America. People in North America will never be allowed to unify again.

I don’t think I made it very clear in my post but I do plan on staying if shit gets really bad and do have a plan of what to do. I’m thinking moreso about my Fiancé/family and making sure that she would be safe

I’m not abandoning the homeland my ancestors fought and died for

 

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God willing, those concessions he made to the LP all come true.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Completely serious question, let's say Kamala wins through rigging, what happens then?

The Dem party begins to fall apart, and likely fast.

You have to remember that the fear of Trump is really the only thing keeping the factions together. The super left really only tolerates the current regime out of fear of Orange man. Once Orange tard has left, the Dems are trapped without a subject to direct hatred towards. The Palestine/Israel conflict has really shown the cracks, which are only going to get wider without a focal point to come together on.

Republicans will definitely begin to get more energized after a loss, which is another troubling thing for Dems to deal with. All of this is also on top of us sliding in terms of our place in the global hierarchy as Russia, China, and others are likely hoping Kamala wins.

I cannot foresee a Dem win even being that grand for them at this point. It just means Kamala has the near impossible task of fixing things while every power is gunning after her, including her own kin.

Say what you will about Trump, most Republican are for him and have no stakes in the current global conflicts. Trump also has a better record for economy and dealing with our global enemies.

 

[Local Farmer]

In an actual SHTF scenario, you want to stay in the US because we have a better chance of fixing things than any other country. Who would you rather be with? A bunch of Europeans who think guns are icky and Americans are backwards? Or a bunch of Americans with guns who think American values are worthwhile?

The other thing you have to remember is that no other country is going to take in American Refugees. You think France, Haiti, Germany or Israel is going to take in 200k Americans and airdrop them around their country? Fuck no.

This homeland is it, it’s all we have, their is no plan B

 

[The Saltening]

The other thing you have to remember is that no other country is going to take in American Refugees. You think France, Haiti, Germany or Israel is going to take in 200k Americans and airdrop them around their country? Fuck no.

This homeland is it, it’s all we have, their is no plan B

bro. just name yourself mohammed, get a tan, then walk over the border and rape a child. Europe will PAY YOU to stay.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

Germany

Would only take the most brown/niggerest and violent browns and niggers you have. W*ites can suck it up and die like they're supposed to.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

The thing is that it's do or die for both sides. The changes both parties bring, in a way, will make it impossible for the other side to ever win.

How do we make it so that Democrats and Republicans can never win again?

 

[Amelia Troonheart]

Man I really did not need another redpill on how fucked up government handling of apparently literally anything is.

It does reinforce my bias that federal government interference should be limited, but also if it's going to be used maximum transparency should be the go-to.

Seems to be a lot of kickbacks, corruption, and incompetence all wrapped up with a nice little bow.

Spoiler: Shitpost