Hurricane Helene / Invest 97L


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The CEO of Impact Plastics in Erwin, TN has released a video statement and "preliminary review" to the local news addressing the public statements that have been made by numerous employees since the flood. Multiple employees had stated that they did not feel free to leave even as the parking lot and road flooded. The tragic situation resulted in death with multiple people who are still unaccounted for. The CEO denies that anyone's job was threatened if they wanted to leave due to the flooding.

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Preliminary Review – October 3, 2024

Impact’s first shift began at 7:00 AM on the morning of September 27, 2024, as usual. At that time, there had been no flooding alert or warning. Written evacuation plans were posted in conspicuous areas of the plant many months prior to September 27th, 2024.

Impact Plastic’s Inc. (“Impact Plastics”) parking lot is in a low-lying area between South Industrial Drive and the plant building. Runoff from adjacent properties and surrounding property often pools in its parking lot during or after heavy rain and often necessitates employees and other visitors at the plant to move their cars.

Water began to pool in the parking lot around 10:35 AM on the morning of September 27th, 2024, which is not an unusual occurrence. Public warnings were disseminated via cell phones at approximately 10:40 AM, coinciding with a power outage occurring at 10:39 AM.

A decision was made within minutes of the power outage to shut the plant down and dismiss all employees including supervisors. Employees were directed to leave the plant property within minutes of the power outage and certainly no later than 10:50 AM. Bilingual employees translated the announcement in Spanish. Senior management conducted a walkthrough of the facility and attempted to move the company’s server and other important documents. They exited the building around 11:35 and were the last individuals to leave.

Subsequent analysis of recorded video footage and photographs has identified both current and missing employees who left the property of Impact Plastics and remained on South Industrial Drive for approximately 45 minutes after the plant’s closure.

This group has since been either rescued or reported as missing or deceased. Review also indicates that when employees were dismissed as water was pooling in Impact Plastic’s parking lot, but South Industrial Drive, in front of the plant appears to have been passable. The water pooled in the parking lot was approximately six inches deep as indicated by the water level shown at the bottom of small passenger cars parked at the time reviewed by the company.

To Impact Plastic’s knowledge, no one was ever trapped in the building or on its premises.

Impact Plastics is aware of the allegations circulated on social media that employees who asked to leave were told not to leave by their supervisors and that supervisors left the plant before other plant employees were dismissed. The allegations are false. Impact did not prohibit its employees from leaving. It did not threaten anyone with discharge from employment. Its senior management were the last, not the first, to leave. Senior management was the last to leave approximately 45-minutes after the plant had been closed and all other employees had been dismissed. Impact Plastics made decisions based on the information available at the time.

In times like these, words feel inadequate to express the depth of sorrow we are all feeling. The recent flood has devastated our plant and, more tragically, taken the lives of some of our dear colleagues and friends. Our hearts go out to their families and loved ones.

Impact Plastics
 
After seeing how FEMA has royally fucked up for the millionth time, this time pissing away funds on illegals we should honestly just dismantle the whole thing. Just leave the national guard in charge so they can do something constructive for once or let people help people out because it's very clear at this point no US government organization explicitly made for these situations can. They are completely incapable of doing the job.

They were useless in Katrina, and yet again they are an utter failure and frankly I don't think any change in "left or right" can fix this perpetual fuck up.
 
I guess they're not just grifters who are doomposting for money.

So @MSG Addict is the authority on the subject? Cool. Tell me exactly how many are missing and how many are dead. In fact, I bet you can tell FEMA and the authorities exactly where the dead and missing are located.
>Are you accusing the government of acting maliciously? Uhhhhh that would never happen bro
 
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Biden commenting on Hurricane Helene. Transcript of the important part:

We are watching a government lose the Mandate of Heaven in real time.
This fucked me up hard after watching it, that feeling of sadness and grief turning to immediate anger. The kid didn't deserve it. This is the mother of the son and his grandparents who were washed away when their roof collapsed (that photo).

Fuck Ukraine, Fuck Israel. Fuck the haitians. Americans first.

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Watched a bit of the Trump rally today, he looks pretty confident and good. Last month or so you could tell he was getting pretty worn out from it all. Probably feels a lot better after the VP debate. I'm so glad he told 60 Minutes to shove it too.

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Edit to add archive of tweet: https://archive.ph/IuOBT
 
After seeing how FEMA has royally fucked up for the millionth time, this time pissing away funds on illegals we should honestly just dismantle the whole thing. Just leave the national guard in charge so they can do something constructive for once or let people help people out because it's very clear at this point no US government organization explicitly made for these situations can. They are completely incapable of doing the job.

They were useless in Katrina, and yet again they are an utter failure and frankly I don't think any change in "left or right" can fix this perpetual fuck up.
Instead of keeping these stockpiles federally (aside from D.C and federal territories), they really just should leave it to the states so state politicians get lynched for embezzling supply money without kicking off a civil war, focus on training standards and inter-agency coordination.

I'm sure they'll fuck that up somehow.

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Every day Senator Armstrong's speech seems like a saner solution compared to our current speedrun.
 
Man, it would be so nice if our country had some law on the books that makes it legal to own firearms. I really wish someone in the past wrote that law so that Americans could violently punish tyrants for taxation without representation. Too bad we don't have that law, so Americans have zero guns. Because I'm sure that, if that law existed and Americans had guns, someone would actually use it in the way it was intended.
 
You aren't constructing them out of nothing, you use them to manipulate the jet stream into reacting more violently than normal or in a different place. It only takes a small air bubbler in a pond to generate currents far larger.
Sure, and the jetstream has hundreds of terawatts of energy. How is your piddly microwave generator with 0.01% of that output of the jetstream or 1% of a hurricane going to do anything about that in the 1-3 days you get to influence a hurricane's strength or direction? It's like pissing into a creek and expecting it will significantly change the flow or temperature of the water. Power differential is too vast. It's just like why you need tens of thousands of acres burning at once to spawn severe thunderstorms or fire tornadoes and not a brushfire that burns a few hundred acres.

There's a reason that serious discussions of weather control involve shit like massive aerosol emissions to dim the Sun (like we did before the Clean Air Act and laws against sulfur emissions) or putting enough mirrors in space to selectively heat and cool parts of Earth by blocking or intensifying a percent or two of the Sun. Altering sunlight received is WAY more efficient because Earth receives so much of it.
There is at Johnston Atoll. In any case the device would have to be within line of sight and cannot create a hurricane from scratch it can only help influence development and direction to a lesser degree.
If there was a power station outputting a few gigawatts at Johnston Atoll, the entire world would know about it. You can't hide a facility that big in the middle of nowhere. It needs a constant stream of ships and aircraft, you know, the same way people have pieced together the basics of Area 51's operation. Not to mention China and Russia would know about it and demand the US close it down and stop steering typhoons their way.

It's just not happening. Tens of gigawatts of power aren't going to be doing much in terms of strengthening a hurricane since it's a tiny fraction of the heat energy. Maybe steering since all the heat would impact air masses, but probably not dramatically so.
 
So are the reports that the feds are blocking off the damaged areas and trying to kill everyone trapped there merited or what
Just dropped off the load I brought down earlier today, answer appears to be no. Basically what they want is for people to not just appear with random aid/crews, they want you to go through their system and notify them that you're coming, what you're bringing, who is coming, when you expect to be there, etc. In the early aftermath it was quite understandable for people to just flow in and start doing something or dropping things off but they're running into problems where they have far too much of certain items, not enough of other items and nowhere good to store some of these items and quite possibly no good way to distribute them to the people who need them. The county I live in [and work for, in Ohio that's all I'm gonna PL] set everything up for me, all I had to do was take the trailer to them, but they're asking that people make arrangements ahead of time at this point in the recovery process.

Likewise if you get too many people in one place, it's going to be a clusterfuck especially given how weak infrastructure is in that region currently. I talked to a few people down there and nobody was turned away if they made arrangements. They are also trying to keep potential looters and lookie-loos out of the area for obvious reasons. It's already a bit of a clusterfuck on the few interstates that let you get to the staging areas, I was essentially part of a convoy for a while and traffic on I-77 near Charlotte was a fucking mess, but once you actually get to the staging area it's all business and pretty quick. They've got National Guard and volunteers [from Red Cross or Samaritan's Purse and quite a few locals] working on offloading and getting things ready to move further up to the people who need supplies. For the first few days it was all hands on deck, show up and start doing something or bring whatever you've got but they're trying to organize it more now.

Also people apparently keep bringing expired food which is fucked up, I get wanting to clean out your pantry and help a good cause but nobody [not even people who had their house destroyed in a flood] wants to eat green beans that expired in 1997. Well, maybe Steve1989MREinfo does, but few others do. From what I heard the main priorities are water [basically nobody in that entire area has water flowing to their home currently], hygiene items, medications, bedding materials, batteries, feminine hygiene products, etc. Also pet food is an overlooked one people don't consider. Cleaning supplies also. Obviously if you're going to bring or send donations try to check and see what is actually needed but those are the items I heard personally being brought up a lot.

I didn't even get close to the true core of where the real damage is but there are a shit-ton of trees down just about everywhere, most of the roads [aside from the obvious ones which were totally washed out] are now clear of debris but obviously I didn't want to get too close since I'd just be getting in the way.
 
Sure, and the jetstream has hundreds of terawatts of energy. How is your piddly microwave generator with 0.01% of that output of the jetstream or 1% of a hurricane going to do anything about that in the 1-3 days you get to influence a hurricane's strength or direction?
No it's like pissing in a pond, you can see the waves propagate through the entire body of water. You are causing turbulence to affect change, not trying to create things out of nothing.

I like how you admit weather control exists then deny it works.
 
Just dropped off the load I brought down, answer appears to be no. Basically what they want is for people to not just appear with random aid/crews, they want you to go through their system and notify them that you're coming, what you're bringing, who is coming, when you expect to be there, etc. In the early aftermath it was quite understandable for people to just flow in and start doing something or dropping things off but they're running into problems where they have far too much of certain items, not enough of other items and nowhere good to store some of these items and quite possibly no good way to distribute them to the people who need them. The county I live in [and work for, in Ohio that's all I'm gonna PL] set everything up for me, all I had to do was take the trailer to them, but they're asking that people make arrangements ahead of time at this point in the recovery process.

Likewise if you get too many people in one place, it's going to be a clusterfuck especially given how weak infrastructure is in that region currently. I talked to a few people down there and nobody was turned away if they made arrangements. They are also trying to keep potential looters and lookie-loos out of the area for obvious reasons. It's already a bit of a clusterfuck on the few interstates that let you get to the staging areas, I was essentially part of a convoy for a while and traffic on I-77 near Charlotte was a fucking mess, but once you actually get to the staging area it's all business and pretty quick. They've got National Guard and volunteers [from Red Cross or Samaritan's Purse and quite a few locals] working on offloading and getting things ready to move further up to the people who need supplies. For the first few days it was all hands on deck, show up and start doing something or bring whatever you've got but they're trying to organize it more now.

Also people apparently keep bringing expired food which is fucked up, I get wanting to clean out your pantry and help a good cause but nobody [not even people who had their house destroyed in a flood] wants to eat green beans that expired in 1997. Well, maybe Steve1989MREinfo does, but few others do. From what I heard the main priorities are water [basically nobody in that entire area has water flowing to their home currently], hygiene items, medications, bedding materials, batteries, feminine hygiene products, etc. Also pet food is an overlooked one people don't consider. Cleaning supplies also. Obviously if you're going to bring or send donations try to check and see what is actually needed but those are the items I heard personally being brought up a lot.

I didn't even get close to the true core of where the real damage is but there are a shit-ton of trees down just about everywhere, most of the roads [aside from the obvious ones which were totally washed out] are now clear of debris but obviously I didn't want to get too close since I'd just be getting in the way.
Not to ass-pat, but as a genuine expression of appreciation, you're doing great work.
 
No it's like pissing in a pond, you can see the waves propagate through the entire body of water. You are causing turbulence to affect change, not trying to create things out of nothing.

I like how you admit weather control exists then deny it works.
what @Save the Loli said checks out with what I know & what the U.S learned from the project. If there is a program that "causes turbulence," then I wouldn't know, but honestly I just find it hard to believe they'd be able to service anything practical. The forces at play here are so fucking massive it's more like pissing into the pacific ocean, even with the most powerful microwave generators.
Not that the U.S wouldn't be interested in fielding something like this; the idea of shaping the weather, particularly in a military context, is absolutely something the U.S would be interested in & dump loads of R&D money into, but they just couldn't make it work.
 
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