Hurricane Helene / Invest 97L

[Rei is Shit.]

just LOL!

 

[Breadbassket]

Yellow jackets and bees are causing problems for Hurricane Helene recovery efforts.

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[Brenda Holiday]

Yellow jackets and bees are causing problems for Hurricane Helene recovery efforts.

Bees and wasps have been awful this year in particular. That sounds like an absolute nightmare.

 

[Gog & Magog]

-Politico: Why North Carolina wasn’t prepared for Helene
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Ignore the climate change talk in the article for a moment and focus on this section.

North Carolina has received $445 billion since 1989 from FEMA for projects that build protection against flooding and other natural disasters. But only 5 percent of that money has gone to the 25 counties in the state that have been declared a disaster following Helene, according to an E&E News analysis of FEMA records.

Those 25 counties account for 16 percent of North Carolina’s population.

North Carolina has spent part of the FEMA money protecting 7,600 properties from flooding through elevation, relocation, flood-proofing or demolition. Yet only 2.5 percent of the properties are in the 25-county area damaged by Helene.

It's not just the Feds. Seems the state of North Carolina may also have to change where and how it is spending it's disaster-protection fund.

 

[indomitable snowman]

-Politico: Why North Carolina wasn’t prepared for Helene
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Ignore the climate change talk in the article for a moment and focus on this section.View attachment 6489160

It's not just the Feds. Seems the state of North Carolina may also have to change where and how it is spending it's disaster-protection fund.

I mean, the coast gets hammered with hurricanes and flooding a heck of a lot more than the mountains ever have.
Hurricane Michael had a similar track but more to the east and the mountains didn't get nearly as much flooding as the coastal areas.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Helene ravaged the NC plant that makes 60% of the country’s IV fluid supply

https://archive.ph/Ltu7m

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[Honka Honka Burning Love]

-Politico: Why North Carolina wasn’t prepared for Helene
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Ignore the climate change talk in the article for a moment and focus on this section.View attachment 6489160

It's not just the Feds. Seems the state of North Carolina may also have to change where and how it is spending it's disaster-protection fund.

Oh look the Administrative Industrial Complex proves completely useless again.

 

[Oh Darn]

Another account from the ground.
TL;DW:
- FEMA and big org response focused on cities, lots of smaller communities still unreachable and can't make it into more populous areas to get supplies. Civilians are helping to run donations up to folks in the hills
- Is an RN that was trying to volunteer in Old Fort to try and get folks medical care, but says FEMA blocked her from coming in because of her out of state plates
-Bodies everywhere that people can't get to
- Black mountain is a tiny town - they don't have room for more supplies, but that doesn't mean the wider community around the town are okay/don't need help
Xeet | Archive

 

[Necrosan]

It's not just the Feds. Seems the state of North Carolina may also have to change where and how it is spending it's disaster-protection fund.

Wow if only there was an agency that could audit these things to make sure they are being used correctly. Once again, proving that the federal government is useless and you would lose almost nothing if you deleted it.

 

[mlanguishi]

I don’t know if that house is fixable, he’s very lucky to be alive. I hope it didn’t kill his museum of PC gaming autism.

Not looking good There's not much worse than water for old PC's and game boxes. Even smoke damage possibly not as bad. I think there's a good chance they might have to demolish that place and rebuild.

 

[Oh Darn]

Doublepost, but this is my personal observation and unrelated to the content above, so fuck it.
I live a little over 100 miles from where the floods hit in NC. I can tell you that driving past the local mortuary it smelt like fucking corpses. Based off of what I'm hearing from the ground, and what I smelt earlier, they're 100% completely out of room to store dead bodies anywhere more locally, and are shipping stuff around to whoever can take it. At this point I will be shocked if the death toll doesn't blow Katrina out of the water.

 

[thx1138]

Doublepost, but this is my personal observation and unrelated to the content above, so fuck it.
I live a little over 100 miles from where the floods hit in NC. I can tell you that driving past the local mortuary it smelt like fucking corpses. Based off of what I'm hearing from the ground, and what I smelt earlier, they're 100% completely out of room to store dead bodies anywhere more locally, and are shipping stuff around to whoever can take it. At this point I will be shocked if the death toll doesn't blow Katrina out of the water.

That's absolutely horrible, but aside from anecdotal information like this we unfortunately will never hear about it, at least not in the near future. Actual figures will be released perhaps a decade from now when they are a mere abstraction, when we're on to the next crisis/hollywood scandal/video game console release/foreign war to pay attention to, and thus utterly numb and unable to be outraged by the fact that because the vast majority of these people were white and middle class they were utterly ignored, unlike the losses from Katrina (which were blown entirely out of proportion), which have been the focus of every news report every time someone says "hurricane" and "Gulf of Mexico" in the same breath, because of skin color.

 

[Jacknife]

Whitey is docile and complacent. They'll put first generation creole-speaking foreigners in whatever shithole they damn well please and whitey won't do shit. Whitey never has done shit. Watch and see.

Brave New World – Mad at the Internet

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Considering the system seems to be crumbling, although I am not really sure it will eventually what will the next thing be if progrissiveness or the cathedral would die?

 

[Otterly]

Yellow jackets and bees are causing problems for Hurricane Helene recovery efforts.

It has been such a bad year for wasps even here. Must be a big shock to the ecology of the whole area as well.

 

[Jump]

Another update from QRPer

https://qrper.com/2024/10/helene-aftermath-update-egress-fema-resource-organization-and-the-national-guard-saturday-october-5-2024/

The person providing the Mt Mitchel repeater livestream is back to normal

https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/42258

 

[clipartfan92]

I guess the media got it's talking points.

Helene response hampered by misinformation, conspiracy theories
The Washington Post (archive.ph)
By Maxine Joselow, Will Oremus, and Gerrit De Vynck
2024-10-05 19:31:19GMT

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After the deluge, the lies: Misinformation and hoaxes about Helene cloud the recovery
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By David Klepper
2024-10-05 16:13:22GMT

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[mindlessobserver]

I will reiterate what I said on page 1 and Page 2 of this thread for all the people assuming this was some sort of secret plot and nobody had any warning.

Panic is setting in on the weather models. This is going to be a big one. West coast Florida bros should probably start packing.

This is a wild track too. This bitch formed from a pressure wave across Central America from the Pacific and is now going to thread the Yucatan Straights before turning northeast to Florida? That is fucking unheard of.

Most Hurricans form by coming across the Atlantic along the trade winds. Which means that in order to plow into the USA they usually get shredded by the barrier Islands of the Antilles and Cuba before entering the gulf, or else turning North and slowing down over the cooler waters of the North Atlantic before hitting the east coast.

This storm formed behind the barrier islands and has taken the ONLY possible course to strengthen by threading the needle between Cuba and Mexico. Before turning North East and hitting west Florida. Which also rarely happens. Most Florida strikes are on the South and East coasts.

Tropical Storm Warnings are now extending almost to Tennessee. This bitch is going in with the throttle jammed at "all ahead full". People in the storm surge zone don't have alot of time to get ready.

Carolinas put under flood warning just now. They are forecasting 15 inches of rain to fall on the Blue Ridge Mountains in western North Carolina. Which is not good, especially considering how wet it's already been this month.

Tropical Storm warning issued for Atlanta Metro Area, may be upgraded to Hurricane Warning which all of south Georgia is under. This bitch is MOVING.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/weather/atlanta-weather-powerful-tropical-cyclone-will-impact-georgia

11 EST update from NOAA.

Catastrophic effects. Evacuate now. All preparations must be rushed to completion.

The Hurricane is on a direct north path to the Florida Panhandle, where it will then curve over Northwest Georgia and into the Tennessee Valley.

Tropical Storm force winds extend 345 Miles from the eye at the current point.

Storm surge up to 20 feet.

12-18 inches of rain expected to be dumped on the Appalachian Mountains. People in Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Virginia and North Carolina in flood zones tied to Appalachian sourced rivers and creeks to make immediate preparations.

Significant urban flooding in the above states is expected.

Storm is presently a Category 1 hurricane.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT4+shtml/260254.shtml

First thing. Everyone in the Carolina Mountains were warned. I know this Because I personally warned them in this thread FFS. The fact that the warnings were not heeded is on them. Not the Feds, not the State.

Second thing. This was an aberrant storm. There is no way to argue otherwise. It was majestic in its horror, for doing absolutely everything possible to be the best she could be as a hurricane. Which made her the worst she could be for the people effected. This wasn't just a once in a life time storm. This was one for the millennial record books. Saying North Carolina was willfully unprepared for it is unfair. There has never been a storm with these conditions before in recorded meteorological history and its doubtful there will be another like it for at least 200 years.

As for the response, people are expecting miracles to happen in the first few weeks. The fact Asheville has electricity at all right now is a miracle. Beyond that what has to happen is going to take years. Judge the effectiveness of the response on that time frame rather then expect a snap of the fingers and everything to be okay overnight. It can't and it won't.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

There has never been a storm with these conditions before in recorded meteorological history and its doubtful there will be another like it for at least 200 years.

This is really important to note. In disaster response, mitigation, and engineering, there are terms like "one in one hundred year" storms, "one in two hundred year" storms, "one in one thousand year" storms, etc. Most government entities and engineers plan for 1/100 year storms, and Helene was more like a 1/250 year or 1/500 year storm. Like, the areas of Tennessee and North Carolina most impacted are between four and five hundred miles inland from where Helene made landfall. Imagine if after Katrina, the Ozarks up in Arkansas was completely fucked, that's what we're talking about here. This is novel, it's something we've never seen before.

 

[Doseferatu]

Not a sleight towards you Doseferatu, but where are they saying this, which ones are saying this? I hate twitter because you know thousands of people will read that tweet and take it as gospel.

I'm only providing what I see.

I don't know of specific LE.

Here's another video of someone complaining about FEMA shutting down local charity efforts.

And here's another video detailing how FEMA appraised someone's (totaled) home at around $2600.

I'm seeing multiple people in NC/TN saying they've been denied the $750 of assistance too.

i.e.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

Here's some pictures from Swannanoa, the town schizophrenics claimed was completely destroyed and had hundreds of corpses hanging from trees.