Hurricane Milton

[raspberry mocha]

Praying to the one true god for all you kiwis in the line of these hurricanes.

 

[Deo_Terra]

Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that the last time a hurricane this strong appeared it dissapeared some islands, how can a hurricane do that? Through sheer land displacement?

Sand bars and barrier islands can be relatively fragile and short lived they are regularly washed away by storm surge and hurricane force winds with new ones popping up in a similar manner these islands are literally just where sand and sediment starts to pile up to the point where it ends up above sea level after all they aren’t actual islands made up normal rock and stone.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that the last time a hurricane this strong appeared it dissapeared some islands, how can a hurricane do that? Through sheer land displacement?

Sufficiently strong storms can move enough ocean water with sufficient force that they can erode barrier islands and low lying regions away. They can also turn marginal flood plains and land reclamation back into pure ocean.

This is why you get autistic screeches about people developing major housing infrastructure on the barrier islands, or draining marshes to build golf courses. The Barrier Islands are a sort of meat shield for the mainland that serve as a "brake" on storm surge, while marshland is a massive sponge that absorbs more of it. Also, by not developing so close to the coast, critical infrastructure and peoples' homes are further inland. A difference of just a mile is often the difference between your house losing a few shingles or you coming home to just finding the foundation.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Hurricanes in the Gulf have little if anything to do with the average ocean temperature being 2 degrees higher then 100 years ago. Hell, the 1933 season had 20 named storms and included some all time bangers like the Category 4 Chesapeake-Potomac storm and the Category 5 Brownsville storm. Every year a Hurricane forms somewhere in the Atlantic, and every year we hear about how this is a consequence of climate change.

Its all the confirmation bias of the present. Hurricanes formed in the Ocean long before we were an industrial society and even if we went back to being hunter gatherers living in mud huts they still will form. Also, human involvement in warming ocean water and glacial retreatment is not as huge as some would say IMO. The Glaciers have been retreating for 50,000 years since the end of the last ice age and they would have continued to do so with or without human involvement. I would agree that human involvement is probably speeding up the process, but whether we reach the end point 1,000 years from now instead of 10,000 years from now is largely meaningless. Its meaningless for us living today, and its certainly meaningless as far as the Earth is concerned.

Given enough time, if we are all still around people will start bitching about Global Cooling. Because the Earth has an observable rhythm of warming and cooling,.

Hurricanes absolutely do work on cycles of a few centuries. Go look up "paleotempestology". Places like those deep-ass "blue holes" and cenotes and coral lagoons accumulate evidence of severe hurricanes because of storm surges or getting 12+ inches of freshwater dumped from a single storm. It works like tree rings, and it can roughly tell the rate at which severe hurricanes have impacted. There were some centuries the Atlantic was fairly quiet, then centuries where it was just as active or even more than today.

If anything, today has the bias that forecasting and satellites have developed enough that storms which weren't call tropical storms even a few decades ago (let alone before the satellite era) are now getting called tropical storms because they exceed that minimum threshold.

 

[lIllllIiiiiLLLLiiiiIIIIll]

The ONE time they give it a male name, it overachieves and surpasses all records.

smdh

It identifies as female, bigot.

 

[Got Milk!]

I forgot to include relevant resources for people to follow along with our journey.

Bay News 9 Tropical Weather
This page has almost everything you might want to know relevant to the storm. So that's cone models, spaghetti model, live radar, winds and pressures and all sorts of other stuff

NOAA hurricane center

This is where the National Hurricane Center does it's thing. The forecast advisories are updated every 3 hours (2, 5, 8 and 11 est) with 5 and 11 being considered the major updates. The public advisory gives location, wind speed pressure etc right after the top. The "discussion and outlook" portion is also very informative. Including telling how far hurricane/trop storm winds extend outside the center


E: pulled the trigger too quickly;

 

[mindlessobserver]

Drop Sonde from Mission 14 recorded 927 MB central pressure. Its starting to drop again. Should also note 927 MB with a closed eye is pretty fucking nuts.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAREPNT2.shtml

 

[The Last Stand]

I just hope this destroys Disney, so I can see Disney adults cry.

I know Tampa is below sea level, I'd be amazed if Tampa isn't reduced to a swamp when Milton is done.

 

[Lidl Drip]

I never really paid much attention to stuff happening in the US for most of my life, so maybe I am wrong, but doesn't it feel like there's been A LOT of more horrible natural disasters and hurricanes? Or is this just normal for Floridians? I wonder if eventually some areas will just become uninhabitable because they will keep getting hit by storms and floods...

 

[ToroidalBoat]

The winds look like a black hole accretion disk, spiraling towards the center.

 

[Anonitolia]

is this just normal for Floridians

The hurricanes are normal, yes, but ones of this insane intensity don't tend to be nearly as common.

 

[Tar&FeatherFurrys]

If anyone has any good youtubers that put a lot of interesting coverage on this please share it with me. I can't stand listening to a forecaster repeat "This is bad" "This is dangerous" a thousand times without it losing my attention where as I'm positive there are some really solid sources of interesting coverage by hobbyists and storm chasers who can inject a bit more energy into the reporting. Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated, thanks!

 

[mindlessobserver]

If anyone has any good youtubers that put a lot of interesting coverage on this please share it with me. I can't stand listening to a forecaster repeat "This is bad" "This is dangerous" a thousand times without it losing my attention where as I'm positive there are some really solid sources of interesting coverage by hobbyists and storm chasers who can inject a bit more energy into the reporting. Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated, thanks!

Ryan Hall is the king of this particular Sektur. He also has less obvious superchat grifting then others.

https://www.youtube.com/live/GQCOr1zJoFo?si=CXquFZ-su5t1nBJs

 

[Mullet Man]

HAARPerald

 

[Chilson]

I never really paid much attention to stuff happening in the US for most of my life, so maybe I am wrong, but doesn't it feel like there's been A LOT of more horrible natural disasters and hurricanes? Or is this just normal for Floridians? I wonder if eventually some areas will just become uninhabitable because they will keep getting hit by storms and floods...

Hurricanes are a normal annual occurrence for the gulf of Mexico and those states that touch it. This is however an especially intense one that is following up an already very intense hurricane within a very close timeline to each other in a very similar trajectory.

It doesn't help that its an election year and the Biden-Harris admin is telling the GOP states (primarily Florida) to go fuck themselves in terms of natural disaster support out of spite. So the damage is going to be even more severe.

 

[The Lawgiver]

I know Tampa is below sea level, I'd be amazed if Tampa isn't reduced to a swamp when Milton is done.

I know I already shitposted referencing Sonic adventure once but I'm just envisioning the aftermath literally being like this if tampa gets hit.

HAARPerald

This climate needs a hero!

 

[Mullet Man]

The Why Files had an excellent segment on HAARP and its capabilities in this episode starting at 12:51.

 

[Got Milk!]

If anyone has any good youtubers that put a lot of interesting coverage on this please share it with me. I can't stand listening to a forecaster repeat "This is bad" "This is dangerous" a thousand times without it losing my attention where as I'm positive there are some really solid sources of interesting coverage by hobbyists and storm chasers who can inject a bit more energy into the reporting. Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated, thanks!

Not a YouTuber but, but available on YouTube, try Denis Philips. He's to suspenders what Don Cherry was to suits and he's high energy, usually.

 

[George Lucas]

He’s losing steam fast. Hopefully the storm surge predictions start dropping.

 

[Anonitolia]

Denis Philips.

Here's his Facebook, which is basically a live feed of Milton news rn.

Also worth noting: he's somewhat optimistic, so if you want some anti-doom fuel give him a look.